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Honeywell 20kW Air Cooled Home Standby Generator (Natural or LP Gas)

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generachq via eBay has Honeywell 20kW Air Cooled Home Standby Generator (Natural or LP Gas) on sale for $2,777. Shipping is free. Thanks ElatedWealth339

Features:
  • PrecisionPower Electrical Technology
  • Two Line LCD Multilingual Digital Controller (English, Spanish, French, Portuguese)
  • Electronic Governor
  • 200 Amp Service Rated Sync Switch
  • System and Status & Maintenance Interval LED indicators
  • Flexible Fuel Line Connector
  • WhisperCheck Exercise
  • Sound Attenuated Enclosure
  • Natural Gas or LP Gas Operation
  • 3 Year Premium Limited Warranty
  • Capability to be installed within 18" (457 mm) of a building (only if located away from doors, windows, and fresh air intakes, unless otherwise directed by local codes.)
  • UL 2200 listed
  • Transfer Switch:
    • 200 Amp, 120/240 VAC, single-phase
    • fully automatic
    • NEMA 3R
  • SAE aluminum weather protective enclosure

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generachq via eBay has Honeywell 20kW Air Cooled Home Standby Generator (Natural or LP Gas) on sale for $2,777. Shipping is free. Thanks ElatedWealth339

Features:
  • PrecisionPower Electrical Technology
  • Two Line LCD Multilingual Digital Controller (English, Spanish, French, Portuguese)
  • Electronic Governor
  • 200 Amp Service Rated Sync Switch
  • System and Status & Maintenance Interval LED indicators
  • Flexible Fuel Line Connector
  • WhisperCheck Exercise
  • Sound Attenuated Enclosure
  • Natural Gas or LP Gas Operation
  • 3 Year Premium Limited Warranty
  • Capability to be installed within 18" (457 mm) of a building (only if located away from doors, windows, and fresh air intakes, unless otherwise directed by local codes.)
  • UL 2200 listed
  • Transfer Switch:
    • 200 Amp, 120/240 VAC, single-phase
    • fully automatic
    • NEMA 3R
  • SAE aluminum weather protective enclosure

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
Refer to the product page here for additional information. -SaltyOne

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Written by ElatedWealth339

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ssi
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For people who could be affected by hurricane or winter storms
LogicX
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yeah except they're counting their margin on the unit as part of the profit... so if you hire someone not earning anything off the unit, they will not install for $1500.
superflysocal
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Speak for yourself. I lost 2 weeks of power during Ike and it was extremely hot and humid. Couldn't find a hotel to go to.

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Dogsfather
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How much is the installation in FL?
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deceit
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Quote from slickdealer05 :
I live in the humid south and don't think it's worth it. Last time our power went out during a hurricane, it was during Ike in 2008 for 2 days. No power outage in Harvey at all in 2016. Weather is usually cooler after a hurricane so it's not as if people are dying due to heat strokes right after.
Not worth buying for a low probability, low impact event.
If you really need power backup, install solar panels with grid tie and battery backup instead.
Thousands of people lost power during Harvey for a week +

If you have small children/elderly in your home and live in an area like Houston, TX a backup generator is easy insurance. It's not if a Hurricane is coming it's when the next hurricane is coming.
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Quote from celticsdan :
20k not enough you're gonna want 50k
20kw = 182 Amps @110V or 91amps @220V. This is plenty to run most people's home in a limp mode. AC, well, heat, refrigerator, sump pump are the important items. Check your breakers on the items you want to run to evaluate.
Also take note that this is air cooled so it is not "heavy duty" even though it is high wattage.
And for the guy OP who is comparing this to the costco one at $3999, you can tell yourself whatever you want but a cheap programmable thermostat for $40 is "basically the same thing without the wifi" as a nest, but not comparable at all. Electric components can range severely in quality. For something I have outside that I rely on for emergencies I'd not buy the most expensive but certainly the most proven.
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Quote from shortyes :
Not sure where you got your data from but permits alone would be a few hundreds. Depending on your gas line location that might be over $1000. Not including electrical and number of breakers could be another $1000. I would say $3000 to be safe. Labor is usually more expensive than the unit when I was pricing in FL.

I live in FL and was about to pull the trigger on the Costco version and said to myself, let me just check how much the install would run...not thinking it would be anywhere near what I was quoted! I just finished pricing the installation, which is far more expensive than the generator itself if you don't have natural gas. I my neighborhood, the natural gas lines stop one street over. I called the gas company and cost to extend the line to our street is $40k. The other option is to dig a giant hole in your yard to put a 500+ gallon of propane underground. I got 7 bids and every single one was over $5k just for the installation part, not including the cost of the generator. This may vary some by area, but for those who said $1,500, double check before a giant generator gets delivered to your house and you have to cough up another $5-$7k to install it.

Another thing to consider, last time we had a serious Hurricane in my area where we lost power for 13 days was Irma in September 2017. I have to say, those were two miserable weeks of 90+ degree heat and humidity, but...before that it had been Wilma in October 2015 and power was only out for a few days. Other than that, we don't ever really lose power. I took this into account when considering the value of what you're getting and ended up just adding an outlet to hardwire my portable 7,500kw generator so it can run every circuit in my panel (surprisingly, this is what most electricians that bid on the big job recommended). They set it up so I can manually choose which circuits I want to run on the panel, including the essentials: refrigerator, ceiling fans, lights, outlets for portable a/c, etc. I have already tested this and you have to do a little load management from time to time but it works great. No more extension cords and it was only $700 to do this.

Do the cost-benefit analysis. For me, the value just isn't there when considering the hardwired portable option. I just couldn't justify dropping $10k on something I will rarely use.
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This is a great price. But each person's needs are different. These things do have an end of life too. If you are going to rarely use it a portable gen with hookup might be much cheaper in the long run. Say if in 10 years you lose power a few times. After 10 years this thing would use a lot of gas doing the weekly/biweekly excercise which you need to keep these functional, along with the annual maintenance. Where as a person who frequently loses power would benefit from this with the automatic transfer, especially when out of town. A nice portable generator and a house hookup cost me under 600 but I did all the work myself and I have no 220 appliances since all my appliances are gas. With everything including my boiler on except the microwave my draw is about 18-20amps. Everyone's needs are different but after I did a cost analysis a portable with an inlet was much cheaper. Yes I have to hook it up but for the amount of $ saved, I could buy a new portable generator every over 10 years and still come out ahead. So if saving $$$ is your expectation go the portable route. If reliability is your expectation a water cooled generator is the best choice. This generator however is nicely priced!
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Quote from lsutigers :
I live in FL and was about to pull the trigger on the Costco version and said to myself, let me just check how much the install would run...not thinking it would be anywhere near what I was quoted! I just finished pricing the installation, which is far more expensive than the generator itself if you don't have natural gas. I my neighborhood, the natural gas lines stop one street over. I called the gas company and cost to extend the line to our street is $40k. The other option is to dig a giant hole in your yard to put a 500+ gallon of propane underground. I got 7 bids and every single one was over $5k just for the installation part, not including the cost of the generator. This may vary some by area, but for those who said $1,500, double check before a giant generator gets delivered to your house and you have to cough up another $5-$7k to install it.

Another thing to consider, last time we had a serious Hurricane in my area where we lost power for 13 days was Irma in September 2017. I have to say, those were two miserable weeks of 90+ degree heat and humidity, but...before that it had been Wilma in October 2015 and power was only out for a few days. Other than that, we don't ever really lose power. I took this into account when considering the value of what you're getting and ended up just adding an outlet to hardwire my portable 7,500kw generator so it can run every circuit in my panel (surprisingly, this is what most electricians that bid on the big job recommended). They set it up so I can manually choose which circuits I want to run on the panel, including the essentials: refrigerator, ceiling fans, lights, outlets for portable a/c, etc. I have already tested this and you have to do a little load management from time to time but it works great. No more extension cords and it was only $700 to do this.

Do the cost-benefit analysis. For me, the value just isn't there when considering the hardwired portable option. I just couldn't justify dropping $10k on something I will rarely use.
I live in florida too. No gas at home. Thinking about doing the same thing. What brand portable generator you have? Is it gasoline or propane?
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Quote from slickdealer05 :
I live in the humid south and don't think it's worth it. Last time our power went out during a hurricane, it was during Ike in 2008 for 2 days. No power outage in Harvey at all in 2016. Weather is usually cooler after a hurricane so it's not as if people are dying due to heat strokes right after.
Not worth buying for a low probability, low impact event.
If you really need power backup, install solar panels with grid tie and battery backup instead.
A 20kW solar system with battery backup will cost you $60k... even worse investment
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Quote from slickshoes11 :
A 20kW solar system with battery backup will cost you $60k... even worse investment
I live in Florida and my power goes out ALL the time. There is 0% chance you are getting solar with battery back up for $60k. Probably double if not more!

This listing says it's the body only and there is not a battery In it. Does this need a battery?

I have a 150 gallon underground propane tank. Is this convertible and would that be enough propane for 5 days?
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Quote from DaveD2608 :
I live in Florida and my power goes out ALL the time. There is 0% chance you are getting solar with battery back up for $60k. Probably double if not more!

This listing says it's the body only and there is not a battery In it. Does this need a battery?

I have a 150 gallon underground propane tank. Is this convertible and would that be enough propane for 5 days?
You must have Duke Energy. 😂
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slickshoes11
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Quote from DaveD2608 :
I live in Florida and my power goes out ALL the time. There is 0% chance you are getting solar with battery back up for $60k. Probably double if not more!

This listing says it's the body only and there is not a battery In it. Does this need a battery?

I have a 150 gallon underground propane tank. Is this convertible and would that be enough propane for 5 days?
This was $60k after rebates...
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Quote from slickshoes11 :
You must have Duke Energy. 😂
Indeed. Slight chance of rain and we lose power here

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Quote from BeigeSoda7259 :
I live in florida too. No gas at home. Thinking about doing the same thing. What brand portable generator you have? Is it gasoline or propane?
I have a Ridgid powered by Yamaha that I picked up from Home Depot after Irma. The generator was about $800. Surprisingly, the portable has plenty of power and does very well. During FL tax free week at the start of hurricane season my local Costco had a Firman 8000kw for $549 no tax. It looked like a nice unit. I think it's $799 now. IMO, hardwired to the panel is the only way a portable is worth it, extension cords are a PITA! My total setup, including the cost of the generator was $1,500 installed. That included a concrete pad, too!
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