I think this is the lowest price I've seen in this. I have had this for about 6 months. My first unit was defective and they replaced it after troubleshooting a bit. Since the replacement it has worked well. It will detect if I have a dripping faucet, I would estimate it detects anything more than one drip per second. Less than that and it may not detect the leak. I plan to add a dome shutoff valve so I can turn off the water main if I'm not home. I looked at the moen all in one solution but the cost of a plumber for install would add significantly to the overall cost.
I purchased this on Prime Day as well and have not had as much luck. I get false positives quite often and after working with their support team it seems as though they are related to pressure fluctuations on my line that appear as usage.
"I'm really sorry but it appears these small usage amounts are coming from pressure fluctuations.
When the triangle on your meter fluctuates back and forth, it implies that there are pressure fluctuations in the system. And when this happens, water flows back and forth across your water meter. We can filter some of that out. However, when the fluctuations get big enough, we have a hard time distinguishing between real water use and these disturbances. "
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Tried just now worked for me, iPhone with paypal account., worked on Microsoft Edge browser on iPhone, Safari browser did not work on iPhone.
I tried yesterday both on Phone and laptop and gave up
Got an email confirmation of the order.Can't wait this to work with Smartthings. I am in SoCal and get charged by tier with high water bills.
Hopefully this will payoff to monitor my usage and conserve, called my utility to confirm the model# before placing the order
No you dont. There is no water utility in the US with a 900% usage tax.
Nope but there is a state tax to replenish the aquifers and I have to pay it. My utility doesn't tax me but they send a water usage report in and then that is taxed and added to my property taxes. I'm pretty frugal so mine is only a few thousand per year but my neighbor down the road with both a front/back lawn and a swimming pool pays almost $8k per year in water tax alone.
How does this compare to the Moen Flo unit from Home Depot that was posted a few days ago? The Moen was $350 "on sale", regular price is $500 but it looks like this one doesn't have an auto shutoff like the Moen.
Nope but there is a state tax to replenish the aquifers and I have to pay it. My utility doesn't tax me but they send a water usage report in and then that is taxed and added to my property taxes. I'm pretty frugal so mine is only a few thousand per year but my neighbor down the road with both a front/back lawn and a swimming pool pays almost $8k per year in water tax alone.
How does this compare to the Moen Flo unit from Home Depot that was posted a few days ago? The Moen was $350 "on sale", regular price is $500 but it looks like this one doesn't have an auto shutoff like the Moen.
The Moen requires cutting into your piping and installing it. For those who can't DIY, that adds an extra $100+ to the cost. Also, since this installs on your existing meter, it can tell you there's a leak anywhere from the meter forward. Where I live, my meter is at the street and I'm responsible for anything after it. So, if the piping between the meter and the house gets a leak, it's on me. A coworker had that happen and owed over $1k in water usage that just dumped into the ground.
Personally, I'm less worried about monitoring the pipe from the street and will he installing mine on a secondary meter in the house. My issue with the Moen is that it's plastic and looks cheap. I'm concerned about the durability of it long term. With the Flume, the actual metering is being done by an accurate, durable, expensive meter that's established and in widespread use (the one supplied by the water company). I'm going to be pairing mine with the Taco leak detector system that has a separate valve to shut down the water. In addition to the sensor it comes with to put on the floor next to the water heater, I'm going to hook up a remotely controlled relay so I can trip it remotely. This will require me to take the manual step of tripping the system when the flume alerts me of an issue (unless the floor sensor also gets wet) but at least I'll have the ability to do so and will be using a Taco valve, which I trust 100x more than the Moen.
AZ. It doesn't apply to everyone. If you receive water from any of the major city water utilities, they were able to bypass this tax by having their own water recycling programs (like having a lake in a park that uses reclaimed water or selling reclaimed water which in of itself doesn't replenish the aquifers). It mostly just applies to developers who build 'X' number of homes outside of a major water utilities operating area. There are 38 homes in my small development but I am surrounded by other homes who don't have to pay this tax.... so my neighbor with almost 2 acres and 30 orange trees who lives right behind me and flood irrigates every 2 weeks pays less in property taxes than I do for just the water portion of my property taxes and I have desert landscaping and no lawn. It's basically one of those taxes that doesn't effect enough people to cause major uproar. Basically, some politicians decided they needed to punish people for using water in AZ, couldn't figure out how to fairly do it but wanted to put their name on something so they screwed over people like me.
My water meter is outside the home on the sidewalk. Do we need to notify utility before putting this device on water meter?
No need to contact anyone, the meter is strapped to water meter with stretchy rubber bands to keep it pushed against the water meter.
In Las Vegas I applied for 50% rebate so the water company had to come to my home and check to be sure it was actually installed, only reason I contacted them
I have had mine for about 8 months and the battery still shows 100%, this thing has saved my butt once already, I received an alert that there was a potential leak of 1 gallon per minute, nobody was home so there was no reason for water to be running
I went home to find out what it was, I had some difficulty finding the leak and it turned out to be a sprinkler water supply that on the far end of my large property and was not being used so I would have never noticed the leak, the pipe had cracked and would of leaked for a month until my next bill came.
My buddy bought one when I told him about mine, he received an $800 water bill, his pool autofiller got stuck open and was just pouring into the drain for a month, he fixed the bad valve and after installing the Flume within 10 mins of installing it notified of a potential leak, did some searching and found the same pool autofill was shooting a very small stream of water, we adjusted the valve and the leak stopped.
Totally worth it, if you own your home get one, no brainer
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"I'm really sorry but it appears these small usage amounts are coming from pressure fluctuations.
When the triangle on your meter fluctuates back and forth, it implies that there are pressure fluctuations in the system. And when this happens, water flows back and forth across your water meter. We can filter some of that out. However, when the fluctuations get big enough, we have a hard time distinguishing between real water use and these disturbances. "
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I tried yesterday both on Phone and laptop and gave up
Got an email confirmation of the order.Can't wait this to work with Smartthings. I am in SoCal and get charged by tier with high water bills.
Hopefully this will payoff to monitor my usage and conserve, called my utility to confirm the model# before placing the order
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I mean can't you just smell yourself and water monitor that way?
I mean can't you just smell yourself and water monitor that way?
Nope but there is a state tax to replenish the aquifers and I have to pay it. My utility doesn't tax me but they send a water usage report in and then that is taxed and added to my property taxes. I'm pretty frugal so mine is only a few thousand per year but my neighbor down the road with both a front/back lawn and a swimming pool pays almost $8k per year in water tax alone.
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The Moen requires cutting into your piping and installing it. For those who can't DIY, that adds an extra $100+ to the cost. Also, since this installs on your existing meter, it can tell you there's a leak anywhere from the meter forward. Where I live, my meter is at the street and I'm responsible for anything after it. So, if the piping between the meter and the house gets a leak, it's on me. A coworker had that happen and owed over $1k in water usage that just dumped into the ground.
Personally, I'm less worried about monitoring the pipe from the street and will he installing mine on a secondary meter in the house. My issue with the Moen is that it's plastic and looks cheap. I'm concerned about the durability of it long term. With the Flume, the actual metering is being done by an accurate, durable, expensive meter that's established and in widespread use (the one supplied by the water company). I'm going to be pairing mine with the Taco leak detector system that has a separate valve to shut down the water. In addition to the sensor it comes with to put on the floor next to the water heater, I'm going to hook up a remotely controlled relay so I can trip it remotely. This will require me to take the manual step of tripping the system when the flume alerts me of an issue (unless the floor sensor also gets wet) but at least I'll have the ability to do so and will be using a Taco valve, which I trust 100x more than the Moen.
Didn't work yesterday..
In Las Vegas I applied for 50% rebate so the water company had to come to my home and check to be sure it was actually installed, only reason I contacted them
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I went home to find out what it was, I had some difficulty finding the leak and it turned out to be a sprinkler water supply that on the far end of my large property and was not being used so I would have never noticed the leak, the pipe had cracked and would of leaked for a month until my next bill came.
My buddy bought one when I told him about mine, he received an $800 water bill, his pool autofiller got stuck open and was just pouring into the drain for a month, he fixed the bad valve and after installing the Flume within 10 mins of installing it notified of a potential leak, did some searching and found the same pool autofill was shooting a very small stream of water, we adjusted the valve and the leak stopped.
Totally worth it, if you own your home get one, no brainer