GE, White & Light Almond, Enbrighten Z-Wave Plus Smart Light Switch $29.98 Free shipping

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11-15-2019 at 07:21 PM #2

I think the second generation just came out. They aren't even that much more expensive. I'm not sure if this is a slick deal. I will wait.

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11-15-2019 at 07:28 PM #3

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the 2nd generation's only real advantage is it's smaller depth so it fits smaller old outlet boxes.

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11-15-2019 at 08:21 PM #4

My opinion...we are in a place of opinions, right?
anywho, not such a great deal. Have gotten zooz zen24 toggle dimmers for 21.99.
This is not a dimmer, and for the same 30 bucks, I grabbed the presale inovelli dimmers(NO Neutral), now that's got some bang for the buck. Notifications, options configurable right from the switch.
So for 30 bucks I expect more, besides most HA gear is overpriced, IMHO.
I guess if you're not a really cheap bastard like me, then this is a decent deal

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11-15-2019 at 08:48 PM #5

Quote from icantsleep :

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the 2nd generation's only real advantage is it's smaller depth so it fits smaller old outlet boxes.

Line and load are interchangeable. also narrower to fit in multi gang units

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11-15-2019 at 08:51 PM #6

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My opinion...we are in a place of opinions, right?
anywho, not such a great deal. Have gotten zooz zen24 toggle dimmers for 21.99.
This is not a dimmer, and for the same 30 bucks, I grabbed the presale inovelli dimmers(NO Neutral), now that's got some bang for the buck. Notifications, options configurable right from the switch.
So for 30 bucks I expect more, besides most HA gear is overpriced, IMHO.
I guess if you're not a really cheap bastard like me, then this is a decent deal

Are you comparing wifi to z-wave or z-wave to z-wave?

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11-15-2019 at 09:34 PM #7

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Are you comparing wifi to z-wave or z-wave to z-wave?

Z-wave to z-wave. When you go full bore home Auto, z-wave is the way to go

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11-16-2019 at 01:34 AM #8

I don't understand why people are upvoting this. This is basically regular price.

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11-16-2019 at 07:06 AM #9

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I don't understand why people are upvoting this. This is basically regular price.

It's a $5 reduction in price which is about 15% off. But yeah, not much of a slick deal given that there exists a newer version that is 20% smaller.

Note to others: Be careful when doing a price comparison that you are comparing apples to apples. Dimmers are more expensive than switches. Also, Jasco/GE confuses matters by also labeling the generation with the tabs Enbrighten even though that name was launched with the now current generation. And finally, they are calling the generation with the tabs generation 1, while there was also a Z-Wave (not Z-Wave Plus) generation that came before it.

All that said, these are very good switches, and may be your only choice if you need to match other switches that are not white. I've got them all over the house.

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11-16-2019 at 07:10 AM #10

Same price at Lowe's [lowes.com]

I just had a "pre 1st Gen" GE Zwave (model # 12724) die on me after a recent power outage. I saw the Gen 1s (14291) @ $ $29.99 but opted for the newer Gen 2 (46201) @ $34.99. Both Gen 1 & Gen 2 are Zwave Plus switches.

I will use the AE extended warranty to get my money back for the failed switch.

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11-16-2019 at 06:08 PM #11

Quote from icantsleep :

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the 2nd generation's only real advantage is it's smaller depth so it fits smaller old outlet boxes.

Also:
* auto-sensing line & load (it can occasionally be a hassle figuring out which is which in your home wiring),
* the ground has 2 holes/connectors, so you can chain them in multi-gang boxes instead of having to run a separate ground wire to each (saves space & makes easier to fit)
* they have the new S2 Z-Wave security (SmartThings will now warn you when hooking up a non S2 device)

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11-16-2019 at 06:14 PM #12

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I think the second generation just came out. They aren't even that much more expensive. I'm not sure if this is a slick deal. I will wait.

Agreed, for $5 more the newer ones have S2 security and some other niceties.

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11-16-2019 at 06:50 PM #13

Quote from RichardR4811 :

My opinion...we are in a place of opinions, right?
anywho, not such a great deal. Have gotten zooz zen24 toggle dimmers for 21.99.
This is not a dimmer, and for the same 30 bucks, I grabbed the presale inovelli dimmers(NO Neutral), now that's got some bang for the buck. Notifications, options configurable right from the switch.
So for 30 bucks I expect more, besides most HA gear is overpriced, IMHO.
I guess if you're not a really cheap bastard like me, then this is a decent deal

My opinion, I prefer established in the electric hardware game brands for something attached to 120v and in my wall. To be fair, i have neutral in all my boxes so that's not an issue.

I can see zwave plus being great for something battery powered or security being an issue for a lock. If someone hacks my kids lights, not a big deal.

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11-16-2019 at 06:53 PM #14

Quote from blahbleh :

I don't understand why people are upvoting this. This is basically regular price.

Because trescamels says you are very wrong.

Edit: they must be pulling from newer stock in some locations. $29 got me the v2, which I assume was because of the next day shipping.

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