Cyber Week Sale at Smartest House. Zooz Multisiren $29.95, Zooz Z-Wave ZEN22 Dimmer $22.75

Here is the link for all of their Cyber Monday deals: https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/...-ascending

Some great prices here. I have a handful of the Zooz ZEN23 switches and they are flawless. All of the Zooz switches can be wired with existing switches in 3 and 4-way configuration without an add-on!

Siren is dumb: runs on batteries only, so defeats the security purpose.

Quote from amax : Siren is dumb: runs on batteries only, so defeats the security purpose.

How does that exactly defeat the purpose? I can see having to replace the batteries as a risk, but most hubs will allow you to monitor the battery life and replace before they die if you choose to.

I agree that the Zooz stuff is very good.

Any advice on how to select the proper/best switch? I see there is ZEN21 though ZEN27

As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs.

im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave

anyone share in the concern?

Quote from ionizer : As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs. im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave anyone share in the concern?

Z-wave is here to stay, for a long time. They just came out with the 700 series chip with even more capabilities than the previous 500 gen series. Plus if your hub is all local, like Hubitat, I can continue to use my devices no matter who goes bankrupt, or what cloud system shuts down, like Iris that went down. Hubitat even supports older gen 1 Iris devices.
So I don't think zwave is going anywhere, at least not for the foreseeable future, IMHO.
PS- zooz makes some quality devices and their support is top shelf. To the other guy complaining about the siren with batteries, isn't that ideal? So when the power goes out, siren still works?

Quote from ionizer : As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs. im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave anyone share in the concern?

It's worth thinking about. Are you afraid that new products will come out that only support an Amazon Echo as hub? So far, I feel like my SmartThings hub does a good job unifying all my various devices that only work with one protocol or one hub. So far not much has come out that I feel I'm the wrong system. Maybe Ring or Nest cams working with ST would be nice. Or the Google and Amazon screen devices displaying ST a little better. But at least they can control our devices.

Quote from ionizer : As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs. im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave anyone share in the concern?

Take a look at Home Assistant [home-assistant.io]. It does take some technical knowhow to get it running smoothly but it's the most flexible future proof option I've seen. They're constantly pushing updates which improves functionality, usability, and more device integrations.

Quote from ionizer : As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs. im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave anyone share in the concern?

In my house, I have all switches (35+) z-wave, z-wave locks, z-wave plug, z-wave sensors connected to smartthings. I also have few Google home/hub and other smart stuff all working in harmony. I don't see any issue or concern going forward.

Quote from AD4SD : In my house, I have all switches (35+) z-wave, z-wave locks, z-wave plug, z-wave sensors connected to smartthings. I also have few Google home/hub and other smart stuff all working in harmony. I don't see any issue or concern going forward.

Which Gen of smartthings do you have? I have 2nd Gen. It's it worth upgrading to 3rd Gen?

Quote from ionizer : As I watch amazon and google begin integrating devices into their hubs, i grow concerned that expanding my zwave efforts any further will result in a big pain down the road if neither of those two decide to incorporate zwave into their existing hubs. im already well committed to zwave and all my switches are either zwave, sensors or timers.... so even now it would be painful to redo anything (And costly), but just worried about continuing to build out zwave anyone share in the concern?

I use HomeAssistant, and, in turn, integrated my Google devices to work with that.

But Google and Amazon are both well integrated with Samsung SmartThings, and SmartThings supports Zwave, so, at worst, it would be a matter of getting a SmartThings hub - once you get that talking with Google/Nest Home, the hub becomes transparent to the Google interface (though you can still use it directly too, for things Google doesn't do), just like a Philips Hue Hub. I haven't used Alexa (I'm kind of all-in on Android), but I'm guessing the situation isn't that different.

The power of those systems is the ability to provide a single interface for disparate systems, so, if anything, I see compatibility expanding. They might not integrate Zwave directly into their devices, but you don't really need them to, as long as you have something else that works with both their speakers, etc and Zwave.

My current setup is a mix of Zigbee (Hue, so Light Alliance I think it's called, and regular HA, which is a separate standard), Zwave/Zwave+, WiFi and Bluetooth, and it works great. Before I set up a HomeAssistant server, I just had a SmartThings hub to handle the other protocols, and that worked just as well for the purpose of integrating everything (HA just gives you a lot more control and power).

Quote from wang168 : Which Gen of smartthings do you have? I have 2nd Gen. It's it worth upgrading to 3rd Gen?

It isn't worth it. It's been discussed at length how Samsung went backwards with V3.

For anyone else that came looking, all of their dimmer switches that are on sale REQUIRE the neutral.