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Model: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" SATA NAS Internal Hard Drive (WD60EFAX)

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bcmu03
12-02-2019 at 08:24 PM.
12-02-2019 at 08:24 PM.
This seems like a great deal. If you're looking for something a little bigger, the WD Store also has a good deal on the Red 10TB for $215.99:
https://shop.westerndigital.com/p...#WD100EFAX
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BrutalSeverity
12-02-2019 at 08:25 PM.
12-02-2019 at 08:25 PM.
Picked some of these up earlier. They are the 2019 WD60EFAX models, which are the newer versions of their 6TB Reds with a 256MB cache (their old WD60EFRX version has a 64MB cache).

It's worth noting these new drives are Helium drives, and they use SMR now, similar to the newer SeaGates and HGST Helium drives. The old Reds used PMR. Don't mix SMR and PMR drives in your RAID, people!
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GeorgeMcFly
12-02-2019 at 09:44 PM.
12-02-2019 at 09:44 PM.
is this confirmed? that WD REDs are now SMR? If that's true, I may have to go the Ironwolf drive route.. which seem to be CMR.

a quick "google" seems to say it's unclear.. that WD is now hiding from the consumer whether or not the newer REDs are SMR. interesting.
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EddieDaThird
12-02-2019 at 11:05 PM.
12-02-2019 at 11:05 PM.
Quote from BrutalSeverity :
Picked some of these up earlier. They are the 2019 WD60EFAX models, which are the newer versions of their 6TB Reds with a 256MB cache (their old WD60EFRX version has a 64MB cache).

It's worth noting these new drives are Helium drives, and they use SMR now, similar to the newer SeaGates and HGST Helium drives. The old Reds used PMR. Don't mix SMR and PMR drives in your RAID, people!
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SMR hard disks are very slow for random read / write. so if you dont write or read in sequential chunks the performance you will get is very bad compared to normal disks. while if you do sequential read and write then you will get good performance. What happened to wd? They used to be the best, now all of their products are just overpriced crappy harddrives that are no better than the Segate harddrives which are known to fail alot. https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...f_caution/
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EddieDaThird
12-02-2019 at 11:10 PM.
12-02-2019 at 11:10 PM.
Quote from GeorgeMcFly :
is this confirmed? that WD REDs are now SMR? If that's true, I may have to go the Ironwolf drive route.. which seem to be CMR.

a quick "google" seems to say it's unclear.. that WD is now hiding from the consumer whether or not the newer REDs are SMR. interesting.
It's true......... I cannot believe it myself, I had to do a google search and i found this. It talks about how they use helium and smr to reduce noise. But what they forget to tell you is that this process causing jittering and this happens with all the 5400 rpm harddrives of all of their brands. They are using helium and smr in all of their models now to "make it quiter" well, I want a harddrive that isn't throttled unless you own the 7200rpm or faster harddrives from wd. It basically saying " hey dummy, pay extra to not get the crappy model derp derp derp"https://documents.westerndigital....nology.pdf
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EddieDaThird
12-02-2019 at 11:12 PM.
12-02-2019 at 11:12 PM.
Quote from GeorgeMcFly :
is this confirmed? that WD REDs are now SMR? If that's true, I may have to go the Ironwolf drive route.. which seem to be CMR.

a quick "google" seems to say it's unclear.. that WD is now hiding from the consumer whether or not the newer REDs are SMR. interesting.
So do not get a wd red, unless you choose the wd red pro version.
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TSLH
12-03-2019 at 12:39 AM.
12-03-2019 at 12:39 AM.
Quote from EddieDaThird :
So do not get a wd red, unless you choose the wd red pro version.
I also read that the regular Red 8TB and 10TB drives are (still) PMR, so replacing a current defect 6TB SMR by one of these might also be an option. If, at one point, you replaced all you drives you should also end up having more storage available if your NAS supports it. Of course I don't know if future versions of these drives will also change to SMR :-(
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EddieDaThird
12-03-2019 at 04:28 AM.
12-03-2019 at 04:28 AM.
Quote from TSLH :
I also read that the regular Red 8TB and 10TB drives are (still) PMR, so replacing a current defect 6TB SMR by one of these might also be an option. If, at one point, you replaced all you drives you should also end up having more storage available if your NAS supports it. Of course I don't know if future versions of these drives will also change to SMR :-(
if the 8tb and 10tb were released after 2018, they are now going to be SMR if ran at 5400rpm.
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pennywaltz
12-03-2019 at 10:11 AM.
12-03-2019 at 10:11 AM.
can this just be plugged internally in a computer and not be used as a NAS?
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BrutalSeverity
12-03-2019 at 02:06 PM.
12-03-2019 at 02:06 PM.
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can this just be plugged internally in a computer and not be used as a NAS?
Yes -- but these drives are manufactured to be run 24/7/365, as starting and stopping them can wear them out faster. That is why they are NAS-rated, so just keep that in mind. You would be better off getting a Blue or Black drive.
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PurpleScent410
12-12-2019 at 10:52 PM.
12-12-2019 at 10:52 PM.
Probably that's why they are on sale. SMR?? Really?
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EPSlick
12-28-2019 at 08:57 AM.
12-28-2019 at 08:57 AM.
Quote from BrutalSeverity :
Yes -- but these drives are manufactured to be run 24/7/365, as starting and stopping them can wear them out faster. That is why they are NAS-rated, so just keep that in mind. You would be better off getting a Blue or Black drive.
NAS drives aren't any more prone to failure from frequent power-up & power-downs than standard desktop drives In fact, they'd be less prone due to having higher quality motors.

What differentiates NAS drives from desktop drives, besides NAS drives having longer lasting motors, is the HDD's onboard firmware. Desktop drives have a ton of power saving modes built in. They also have very aggressive error correction algorithms built in. This is generally good to have in a single drive desktop PC, but they're BAD things to have in a fault tolerant server running 10 HDDs off a hardware RAID card which itself has its own error correction & recovery routines built into firmware. Often when you run consumer desktop HDD's in a big hardware RAID array, you'll get weird things happening like HDD's spontaneously dropping out or timing out b/c the consumer HDD's algorithms are conflicting with the RAID card. The RAID card doesn't understand why the HDD isn't instantly responding to commands... This is why NAS drives lack all the power management & error recovery routines by default... to prevent hardware conflicts.
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