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Dec 8, 2019 2:27 PM

Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Dec 18, 2019 7:06 PM
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Jliao426Dec 18, 2019 7:06 PM
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Quote from digitalfool View quoted comment :
This is interesting as I started refinance based app based on this thread for the $2500 credit and waived appraisal. Very competitive rates still, but I'll be pretty disappointed if I don't get the credit. I have two non-branded cards, did not get any e-mails nor was it listed as an offer on my cards. I got the e-mail from them AFTER my application started telling me the details of the amex credit offer. The terms in the e-mail below stated this:

$2,500 Statement Credit
To be eligible for the $2,500 statement credit, you must (i) click-through the dedicated offer link, and (ii) submit a completed application on Better's webpage dedicated to the offer no later than 7/25/2020, and (iii) close on your mortgage no later than 10/28/2020. You will not be eligible for the statement credit if your mortgage closes after 10/28/2020 for any reason, even if you do not control the closing date. To be eligible for the statement credit, you must continue to be an eligible Card Member from the time you receive this offer, through the closing of your mortgage, and until the statement credit is applied to your Card account. The name or email associated with your eligible Card will need to match the information in your mortgage application in order to receive the Credit.


I feel like with all this information sent to me, I don't see how they can deny anyone that credit. Maybe they had a rush of applications and now they are starting to back track a bit since the offer link is generic. We'll see! Process has been great so far!
I will be surprised if you do get the $2500 credit statement from AMEX.
Dec 19, 2019 8:21 PM
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PeterGJDec 19, 2019 8:21 PM
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Quote from Jliao426 View quoted comment :
I will be surprised if you do get the $2500 credit statement from AMEX.
I spoke with my better.com Loan guy and I spoke with an escalated AMEX agent and they both said the terms are what determines eligibility and confirmed either of my AMEX cards would work (Amex Blue and Delta Gold).

The agent was unable to give me a ticket or reference number for the issue but said if you fear any issues, go ahead and print out and take screenshots of the offer so you have it in case you have any issues. Guess we will see in a few months time.
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Dec 21, 2019 2:39 AM
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Greenworld123
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i did receive my $2,500 statement credit today. About two weeks after closing.
Dec 21, 2019 2:51 AM
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oo7benztoDec 21, 2019 2:51 AM
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i did receive my $2,500 statement credit today. About two weeks after closing.
Which card do you have? And can you confirm that they asked which card you wanted the credit on at closing?
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Dec 21, 2019 3:16 AM
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Quote from oo7benzto View quoted comment :
Which card do you have? And can you confirm that they asked which card you wanted the credit on at closing?
I have many amex cards, and yes that will be one of your tasks.
Dec 22, 2019 12:49 AM
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prassujaDec 22, 2019 12:49 AM
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I spoke with an agent with Better.com and said my Amex Blue Cash card will qualify even though this offer was not sent to my email by Amex. I just can't have a card that is like 1 month old.
Dec 30, 2019 2:02 PM
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jojomexiDec 30, 2019 2:02 PM
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Can anyone explain or tell me how to see lower year rates? After filling out information, it is only showing me offers for 30 year fixed FHA, there are no results for the other 15, 20, 30 year categories. Also, it is offering me a lower APR, but the fees jumped from what was initially only like $485 on the first screen to now close to $3000. I think it's saying $7223 to close when i tick the "include fees" button. I do not want to refinance and reset myself back to 30 years if I can stand it. My current APR is 4.454 and it is offering me 4.246.
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Dec 30, 2019 2:20 PM
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jeproksDec 30, 2019 2:20 PM
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I checked my previous email from Amex about the $2500 credit for refinancing and it's with Quicken Loans and not better.com Anyone received the same offer?
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Dec 30, 2019 2:44 PM
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Quote from jojomexi View quoted comment :
Can anyone explain or tell me how to see lower year rates? After filling out information, it is only showing me offers for 30 year fixed FHA, there are no results for the other 15, 20, 30 year categories. Also, it is offering me a lower APR, but the fees jumped from what was initially only like $485 on the first screen to now close to $3000. I think it's saying $7223 to close when i tick the "include fees" button. I do not want to refinance and reset myself back to 30 years if I can stand it. My current APR is 4.454 and it is offering me 4.246.
You should be offered more options, contact a live person.
Did you just buy your house and have no equity in the house? That might be why you are being offered only FHA loans?
FHA loans require an upfront mortgage insurance premium of 1.75% when closing the loan, which is why your fees are so high. I wouldn't refinance an FHA to FHA. Not worth paying upfront MIP again. Options would be to wait until you pay off more equity (would be 7-10ish years based on your interest rate and length of loan) or bring cash to closing to obtain a convential loan (10% equity+).
Dec 30, 2019 2:47 PM
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jojomexiDec 30, 2019 2:47 PM
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You should be offered more options, contact a live person.
Did you just buy your house and have no equity in the house? That might be why you are being offered only FHA loans?
FHA loans require an upfront mortgage insurance premium of 1.75% when closing the loan, which is why your fees are so high. I wouldn't refinance an FHA to FHA. Not worth paying upfront MIP again. Options would be to wait until you pay off more equity (would be 7-10ish years based on your interest rate and length of loan) or bring cash to closing to obtain a convential loan (10% equity+).
We bought back in July 2017, and only put 3% down through Wells Fargo, so yeah it's most likely due to we haven't paid down enough to be offered anything else. We are currently on a conventional loan. Yeah the number crunch doesn't look great at all. From what I gathered, we would be saving about $7000 over the life of the loan, but be resetting to a 30 year fixed, all while having to pay over $7000 now in closing costs. It would be smarter IMO to just pay a flat $7000 towards our principal balance than to refi.
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Dec 30, 2019 3:11 PM
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Quote from jojomexi View quoted comment :
We bought back in July 2017, and only put 3% down through Wells Fargo, so yeah it's most likely due to we haven't paid down enough to be offered anything else. We are currently on a conventional loan. Yeah the number crunch doesn't look great at all. From what I gathered, we would be saving about $7000 over the life of the loan, but be resetting to a 30 year fixed, all while having to pay over $7000 now in closing costs. It would be smarter IMO to just pay a flat $7000 towards our principal balance than to refi.
House appreciation hasn't put you above 10%.. try factoring that in.
Dec 30, 2019 3:15 PM
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jojomexiDec 30, 2019 3:15 PM
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House appreciation hasn't put you above 10%.. try factoring that in.
How do I factor in house appreciation? I was only going based off of what the last assessment was showing on our county assessor. It is most likely also outdated as we have since gotten our roof replaced. Would I take the assessed value at closing?
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Dec 30, 2019 3:23 PM
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Greenworld123
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Quote from jojomexi View quoted comment :
How do I factor in house appreciation? I was only going based off of what the last assessment was showing on our county assessor. It is most likely also outdated as we have since gotten our roof replaced. Would I take the assessed value at closing?
A new roof and any improvements would add value to your house.
Your tax basis is not necessarily a good indication of market value. An appraiser will look at condition/improvements you made Then he will look at past sales in your market for similar houses to determine an estimated home value.

Since in a lot cases better.com will skip appraisal (was skipped in my case). I would assume you are at that 10% equity value until someone tells you otherwise.

FHA loans are brutal with the MIP. I had to use one for my first starter home, and learned my lesson to wait till you have 10%.
Dec 30, 2019 3:25 PM
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jojomexiDec 30, 2019 3:25 PM
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A new roof and any improvements would add value to your house.
Your tax basis is not necessarily a good indication of market value. An appraiser will look at condition/improvements you made Then he will look at past sales in your market for similar houses to determine an estimated home value.

Since in a lot cases better.com will skip appraisal (was skipped in my case). I would assume you are at that 10% equity value until someone tells you otherwise.

FHA loans are brutal with the MIP. I had to use one for my first starter home, and learned my lesson to wait till you have 10%.
Sounds good, thank you for all of the advice!

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Dec 30, 2019 3:46 PM
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CrazyCoconutDec 30, 2019 3:46 PM
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I just purchased a home back in August 2019 with a State-Based Down Payment Assistance Program. I can refi sometime in mid-February. I have about 6.2% equity in the home right now, not factoring in appreciation. There is PMI on the loan. I have a 780 credit score.

Should I pay down and gain equity to at least 10% with the current lender (interest rate is at 5%), or should I pay towards principal at closing with better.com? I believe my current lender there's fees associated with getting rid of the PMI.

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