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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Mar 08, 2020 04:56 AM
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AlexK6706Mar 08, 2020 04:56 AM
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Just ran a quick esimate.

$4,928 closing costs + 5.3% APR. 770 credit score. Not sure if AMEX offer helps.
Mar 08, 2020 04:33 PM
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NominalProductMar 08, 2020 04:33 PM
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Quote from rwerns21 :
I went to sofi and they were offering 3% 30 year fixed with 1k credit back. I just refi with better so I'm not sure if I will do it again.
I also got the same rate while applying at sofi. The rate is too good to be true so lets see if I would indeed get this rate.
Mar 08, 2020 06:06 PM
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dfwordersMar 08, 2020 06:06 PM
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Which lenders did you guys try to compare rates? Lending tree actually sent me over to better.com and bankrate.com doesn't seem to have competitive refinance agents.
Mar 08, 2020 06:36 PM
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rwerns21Mar 08, 2020 06:36 PM
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Quote from dfworders :
Which lenders did you guys try to compare rates? Lending tree actually sent me over to better.com and bankrate.com doesn't seem to have competitive refinance agents.
I would try sofi.
Mar 08, 2020 09:26 PM
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summi99Mar 08, 2020 09:26 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
Just ran a quick esimate.

$4,928 closing costs + 5.3% APR. 770 credit score. Not sure if AMEX offer helps.
5.3%? I'm seeing these crazy inflated high rates since Thursday right after 10 Year note dropped below 1.0.

Now where is that guy who kept saying wait till the interest rate dropped down to 0 while I kept saying take the free money if there are no closing costs + the bonus $2500 and then REFI again if the rates drop
Last edited by summi99 March 8, 2020 at 03:30 PM.
Mar 08, 2020 11:18 PM
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Liquid20TMar 08, 2020 11:18 PM
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Is anyone doing a refi on an investment property? I'm locked in to a 3.5% but I'm buying down roughly $5k in points. The payback period for me is about 18 months so it doesn't seem like a bad deal. Has anyone received a more favorable rate on their investment property?
Mar 09, 2020 04:08 AM
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303Mar 09, 2020 04:08 AM
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10 year yield getting crushed. Hopefully we see some of this roll through to mortgage rates.
Last edited by 303 March 9, 2020 at 06:16 AM.

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Mar 09, 2020 01:52 PM
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JustanotherrandomguyMar 09, 2020 01:52 PM
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I'm locked in @ 3.375. The rates have since dropped.

So after I close say next week, can I refi with other lender immideatly.

Will better/Amex give me 2.5K credit eventhough I'm not staying with the lender?
Mar 09, 2020 01:59 PM
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alMacMar 09, 2020 01:59 PM
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Quote from Liquid20T :
Is anyone doing a refi on an investment property? I'm locked in to a 3.5% but I'm buying down roughly $5k in points. The payback period for me is about 18 months so it doesn't seem like a bad deal. Has anyone received a more favorable rate on their investment property?
I know Rocket has AMEX offer and is offering lending for investment property. I was looking at them yesterday, and they want arm and leg to get a quote. Have you reached out to Rocket and see what rates get from them?
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Mar 09, 2020 02:08 PM
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Dr. J
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Mar 09, 2020 02:08 PM
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Curious how you people refinance constantly. Don;t you pay for appraisal and perhaps closing costs?
Mar 09, 2020 02:11 PM
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bigal2001Mar 09, 2020 02:11 PM
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Wondering if anyone has made this a super slick deal with getting a $2500 Amex statement credit with Rocket and $1000 Better price guarantee?
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alMacMar 09, 2020 02:11 PM
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Quote from Dr. J :
Curious how you people refinance constantly. Don;t you pay for appraisal and perhaps closing costs?
I am thinking they rely on these lender credits and then perks like AMEX statements credits.
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Mar 09, 2020 02:16 PM
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Mar 09, 2020 02:16 PM
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Quote from alMac :
I am thinking they rely on these lender credits and then perks like AMEX statements credits.

I totally get that if things change drastically, one could use negative points to negate some fees, but you always pay for appraisal (~$400?), and of course it's generally a PITA; at some point the benefits in refinancing won't outweigh the costs (literally and figuratively), and that's going to be inversely proportional to how long one's had the loan - e.g. refinancing repeatedly in short periods of time won't make financial sense.

Just trying to figure out what the missing piece is here
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Mar 09, 2020 02:26 PM
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Quote from bigal2001 :
Wondering if anyone has made this a super slick deal with getting a $2500 Amex statement credit with Rocket and $1000 Better price guarantee?

Is there a public offer for Rocket or do you have to be targeted?

Edit: Nvm, found it.
Last edited by diavolo33 March 9, 2020 at 08:30 AM.

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Mar 09, 2020 02:51 PM
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axiom1Mar 09, 2020 02:51 PM
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Quote from Justanotherrandomguy :
I'm locked in @ 3.375. The rates have since dropped.

So after I close say next week, can I refi with other lender immideatly.

Will better/Amex give me 2.5K credit eventhough I'm not staying with the lender?

As long as you complete the re-fi you should get the credit.
Nothing in the terms ties the credit to how long the loan is held, whether it's you closing it out, or the company selling it.

Are you finding lower than 3.375 today?
I haven't gotten actual quotes from anyone, but posted rates I'm seeing today are above that, some significantly so.

Compared to fundamentals I think mortgage providers are keeping rates artificially high with their can't handle volume justification. Whether they continue in lock step with that remains to be seen.
Last edited by axiom1 March 9, 2020 at 08:52 AM.

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