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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 16, 2020 02:37 PM
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KaatuPaadiJul 16, 2020 02:37 PM
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Quote from wandl :
Funnily enough as we go round and round with this; the lenders that I've found to give fast LE's are:
LoanDepot
Better Mortgage

this was based on my experience in May (I refi'd & closed in June)...wishing more lenders were like Better Mortgage in having an automated platform that can generate LE's based on rate selections.
Agreed.. Thank god for the nice people at LD.. I was atleast able to go down from 3.125 to 2.75 at better..
Jul 16, 2020 02:40 PM
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brat7705Jul 16, 2020 02:40 PM
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Quote from damnyou :
Sebonic is a good one. If you want someone whom I worked with I can let you the name
Quote from nagraw4 :
How did Sebonic compare to watermark?
Quote from KaatuPaadi :
Can u PM please.. appreciated.
The rates are dynamic. I noticed that if stocks go higher so do the mortgage rates. I kept my eye on the rates on bankrate. Around 9;30 - 11:30 AM EST rates got updated everyday. I saw 2.24% for 15-year by Sebonic (locked) applied right away at better.com as well. They matched and locked same day. Adjusted title fee few days after lock. Sebonic rates have gone up since to 2.365 (today). I see first mortgage direct showing 2.25 on bank rate right now with 0 origination. Good luck! I'm in NC.
Jul 16, 2020 02:44 PM
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CycloneFWJul 16, 2020 02:44 PM
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Quote from KaatuPaadi :
Issue is, Watermark gave me verbal quote of 2.5 with 1000 paid points which is great... But my loan contact is refusing to give me LE, stating I will use it to go somewhere... ( slickdeal effect)...

So weighing my option to see how do I force WM to give me an LE. probably need to escalate
I don't know what your problem is. So what if they want you to "commit". It has no negative impact to you. Just "commit" and if the terms are not as good as you find elsewhere, withdraw your app (if they won't beat the offer to keep you).
Jul 16, 2020 02:45 PM
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nagraw4Jul 16, 2020 02:45 PM
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I think I asked this earlier but I didnt see a response. How long is Loan cabin taking to respond? I applied over the weekend but haven't heard anything yet.

And when they do come back, are they quick with LE or they make you run in circles like Watermark?
Jul 16, 2020 02:47 PM
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David9569Jul 16, 2020 02:47 PM
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Quote :
Quote from samsungs70 :
Thanks. So apparently my guy's rate is not good. I got it. But if he sent me a loan estimate and the total fees is $500 appraisal (or I could tell him that I only do it if he absorbed that $500) it's still not a good deal?
I'm going to try one more time. Your 30 year loan of 260K at 3.5% will wind up costing you $420,000. If you get the rate that is likely available at 2.75%, it will cost you $382,000. Now maybe you won't stay in the house for 30 years, but any deal that might cost you an extra $38,000 without any upside (since you could get the same low fees from somebody else) is probably not a good deal...got it?????
Jul 16, 2020 02:51 PM
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David9569Jul 16, 2020 02:51 PM
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Quote from nagraw4 :
I think I asked this earlier but I didnt see a response. How long is Loan cabin taking to respond? I applied over the weekend but haven't heard anything yet.

And when they do come back, are they quick with LE or they make you run in circles like Watermark?
Here was my timeline. I applied late Wednesday night last week. I heard nothing, and on Tuesday I e-mailed Samantha, the person who sent the form e-mail soon after I had applied. She replied pretty quickly and said she was just reviewing and threw out some informal numbers. We e-mailed back and forth throughout the morning, she basically said to just go to their site and put in my numbers and choose what I wanted... I did that, and she came back with a LE within a few hours. It was kind of weird.

Jul 16, 2020 02:52 PM
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shahhereJul 16, 2020 02:52 PM
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Quote from nagraw4 :
I think I asked this earlier but I didnt see a response. How long is Loan cabin taking to respond? I applied over the weekend but haven't heard anything yet.

And when they do come back, are they quick with LE or they make you run in circles like Watermark?

I applied almost 2 weeks back on a Monday and got the LE on Wednesday. I did email the contact twice to keep up on it. I think they have gotten being bombarded (SD Effect?) and seems like their turn around time has been longer.



The bright side is that no one has yet claimed that the numbers were different than what they saw/quoted. Keep calling; emailing them for the a Loan Estimate.


For me they already "Locked" my rate which again I did not "Commit" to lol but was the best offer of the bunch (until yesterday) so I did not mind it but they sent the LE without issue.


Shahhere

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Jul 16, 2020 02:56 PM
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KaatuPaadiJul 16, 2020 02:56 PM
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I applied ally which uses the same software as better... I see loan tracker changing from 2.75/4K points to 2.75/1400 since 2 days..

if it drops below better rate, i will lock online and have better match it..
Jul 16, 2020 02:58 PM
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svinokotJul 16, 2020 02:58 PM
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Quote from KaatuPaadi :
Agreed.. Thank god for the nice people at LD.. I was atleast able to go down from 3.125 to 2.75 at better..

How is Loan Depot easy? They don't even show rates on their web site, not speaking about getting a LE. I filled out the basic info like name, phone and email and all I get is multiple automated voice messages asking to called them back. How do I get a LE from Loan Depot?
Jul 16, 2020 03:01 PM
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KaatuPaadiJul 16, 2020 03:01 PM
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Quote from svinokot :
How is Loan Depot easy? They don't even show rates on their web site, not speaking about getting a LE. I filled out the basic info like name, phone and email and all I get is multiple automated voice messages asking to called them back. How do I get a LE from Loan Depot?
No web auto LE with them.. need to work with your assigned broker
Jul 16, 2020 03:02 PM
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sskumarsdJul 16, 2020 03:02 PM
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better told me just now that they can do either LE match or AMEX but not both, is it the same for everyone? he was telling the terms were updated.
Jul 16, 2020 03:06 PM
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nicemannJul 16, 2020 03:06 PM
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Quote from sskumarsd :
better told me just now that they can do either LE match or AMEX but not both, is it the same for everyone? he was telling the terms were updated.
Looks like some people have been told that in the past. Especially with Arnold. It seems to be hit or miss.
Jul 16, 2020 03:08 PM
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nagraw4Jul 16, 2020 03:08 PM
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Quote from sskumarsd :
better told me just now that they can do either LE match or AMEX but not both, is it the same for everyone? he was telling the terms were updated.
What!! Really? The whole idea of getting the match was to get the extra $2.5k!
Jul 16, 2020 03:12 PM
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sskumarsdJul 16, 2020 03:12 PM
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Quote from nagraw4 :
What!! Really? The whole idea of getting the match was to get the extra $2.5k!
he pointed me with this
https://better.com/faq/better-guarantee/whats-the-fine-print​ [better.com]
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Jul 16, 2020 03:12 PM
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CycloneFWJul 16, 2020 03:12 PM
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Quote from KaatuPaadi :
I applied ally which uses the same software as better... I see loan tracker changing from 2.75/4K points to 2.75/1400 since 2 days..

if it drops below better rate, i will lock online and have better match it..
Better "Fine Print" lists they will not compete against other lenders they originate for.

Quote from Better's Fine Print :
https://better.com/faq/better-gua...fine-print

The Loan Estimate must be dated within 1 business day from its date of submission to Better Mortgage and may not be from a broker or lender who Better Mortgage provides loan originating and/or brokerage services.
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