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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM

Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:18 PM
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CycloneFWJul 24, 2020 11:18 PM
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Quote from Zwitterion :
A lot depending on which rate you take. If you took a higher rate with a $6K lender credit for example and dumped all excess cash into your loan to kill principle and then agressively paid down, you'd come out ahead. When the spread between 15 and 30-year is a 0.25, why strangle yourself with a 15-year?
In my case, the 30-year has a $1,424 lender credit and 15-year has a $3,006 credit for the same rate. I'm taking the larger credit.
Jul 24, 2020 11:20 PM
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SDRebelJul 24, 2020 11:20 PM
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Quote from stealth11 :
I'm shooting for the Better.com Amex deal. What do I have to show Better to get them to price match another loan?

My plan was to get a good Penfed rate and try and get Better to price match it. Problem is rates are changing so quickly at Penfed. I've seen the 15 year refinance rate go up .5 percent from one day to the next.
did you ever find a good penfed rate? I remember when penfed was very popular in here..that's why I signed up...but their rates appear to suck. 3.125% for 15 and 3.375 for 30
Jul 24, 2020 11:24 PM
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tayninhJul 24, 2020 11:24 PM
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Quote from Zwitterion :
A lot depending on which rate you take. If you took a higher rate with a $6K lender credit for example and dumped all excess cash into your loan to kill principle and then agressively paid down, you'd come out ahead. When the spread between 15 and 30-year is a 0.25, why strangle yourself with a 15-year?
Interesting. Thanks for the advise.
Jul 24, 2020 11:46 PM
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dealkkJul 24, 2020 11:46 PM
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Quote from pakman134 :
When you request Better to match competing loan estimates, no need to mention anything about AMEX offer. Simply send them the LE within 1 day and ask them to match/beat it, and persistently follow-up with your Better loan officer/concierge/processing expert.

To be eligible for AMEX credit, you ether need to have signed up through the AMEX link OR ask your Better contact to make sure that it is added/tagged onto your account/loan. I signed up through the link and it was automatic. Even if you sign up through the link it is a good idea to confirm with Better that your loan is eligible for the credit.
Thanks alot pakman134, when you said within 1 day after you get the le from loan cabin right? also , how long does loan cabin give you the le? I have another le from different lender but rate is ok not great so i don't want to send that to better to match.
Jul 25, 2020 01:04 AM
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SomeXYZJul 25, 2020 01:04 AM
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Since I'm refinancing with better again, I'm eligible to avail transfer tax exemption in GA.
my account is still with TMS. Waiting for closing disclosure to see the tax discount.
Jul 25, 2020 01:16 AM
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GooW00Jul 25, 2020 01:16 AM
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Anyone know how to invoke better's price match guarantee? My better.com LO is refusing to match my rate (2.5% on a 30yr from Loan Cabin) and says it doesn't count towards their price match guarantee because the 2.5% rate is lower than the lowest rate available in my better.com rate portal.

I think my LO might be blowing smoke as I don't see any rate portal qualification here: https://better.com/faq/better-gua...fine-print
Jul 25, 2020 01:26 AM
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Joanneitaly1958Jul 25, 2020 01:26 AM
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Why dont you go with Loan Cabin if they beat Better. Better is not transparent up front. Rate was .25% higher than Loan Cabin.

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Jul 25, 2020 01:28 AM
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Joanneitaly1958Jul 25, 2020 01:28 AM
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Quote from GooW00 :
Anyone know how to invoke better's price match guarantee? My better.com LO is refusing to match my rate (2.5% on a 30yr from Loan Cabin) and says it doesn't count towards their price match guarantee because the 2.5% rate is lower than the lowest rate available in my better.com rate portal.

I think my LO might be blowing smoke as I don't see any rate portal qualification here: https://better.com/faq/better-gua...fine-print
Why are you not going with Loan Cabin if they beat Better. Better is not transparent up front. Rate was .25 higher than Loan Cabin.
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Jul 25, 2020 01:28 AM
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Jul 25, 2020 01:28 AM
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Quote from GooW00 :
Anyone know how to invoke better's price match guarantee? My better.com LO is refusing to match my rate (2.5% on a 30yr from Loan Cabin) and says it doesn't count towards their price match guarantee because the 2.5% rate is lower than the lowest rate available in my better.com rate portal.

I think my LO might be blowing smoke as I don't see any rate portal qualification here: https://better.com/faq/better-gua...fine-print
better.com is getting too many business, they are refusing to match.

Only option to try to refuse them and let them response with counter offer. If you keep chasing they won't budge.
Jul 25, 2020 01:42 AM
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GooW00Jul 25, 2020 01:42 AM
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Quote from Joanneitaly1958 :
Why are you not going with Loan Cabin if they beat Better. Better is not transparent up front. Rate was .25 higher than Loan Cabin.
I will if better can't match but I was hoping to get better to match so I can use the $2500 Amex credit.
Jul 25, 2020 01:58 AM
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shahhereJul 25, 2020 01:58 AM
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Okay Guys I have this to deal with:
Caliber; who I posted earlier came back and said sorry but they are completely backedup and that while they get the "Exemption" pricing approved by their VP which has a long queue thanks to the SD effect but that I'll get the quoted numbers. Their system automatically sends Docs over every 3 days to keep things moving.


My options:
1) Close with Better.com Next week and Blow Caliber off.
2) Close with Better.com Next week and Refinance with Caliber in Sept again as the loan will be funded but i wouldn't have made a payment so the payoff statement etc will be hard to get........No sure if I'll get the Amex credit?

3) Close with Caliber as their credit upfront is better than Better.com after Amex as well.


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Jul 25, 2020 02:03 AM
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vulcanboltJul 25, 2020 02:03 AM
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Quote from GooW00 :
Anyone know how to invoke better's price match guarantee? My better.com LO is refusing to match my rate (2.5% on a 30yr from Loan Cabin) and says it doesn't count towards their price match guarantee because the 2.5% rate is lower than the lowest rate available in my better.com rate portal.

I think my LO might be blowing smoke as I don't see any rate portal qualification here: https://better.com/faq/better-gua...fine-print
Its a hit or miss. They offered me more credits on 2.75 but said can't go down to 2.5

I told them I am not interested in the credits. Have to see what they come back with Monday
Jul 25, 2020 02:07 AM
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GooW00Jul 25, 2020 02:07 AM
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Quote from dsrb4u :
Its a hit or miss. They offered me more credits on 2.75 but said can't go down to 2.5

I told them I am not interested in the credits. Have to see what they come back with Monday
At least they're still offering with you, that's positive! They flat out told me they couldn't match.
Jul 25, 2020 02:32 AM
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vulcanboltJul 25, 2020 02:32 AM
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Quote from GooW00 :
At least they're still offering with you, that's positive! They flat out told me they couldn't match.
Let's see. I have had it with better and feel bad for LC and other guys who are giving good rates right off the bat . I might most likely go with LC

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Jul 25, 2020 02:33 AM
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pakman134Jul 25, 2020 02:33 AM
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Quote from dealkk :
Thanks alot pakman134, when you said within 1 day after you get the le from loan cabin right? also , how long does loan cabin give you the le? I have another le from different lender but rate is ok not great so i don't want to send that to better to match.
Everyone has had different experiences. I got lucky and within a day had an official loan estimate from LC. Better also responded to me within 24 hours of request to beat/match LC. That was weeks ago and it seems the lenders are getting more busy, so your experience will likely vary... just be polite, email them, call them, and persistently follow-up.

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