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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 25, 2020 03:52 PM
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dealer89Jul 25, 2020 03:52 PM
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Quote from SDRebel :
How did you deal with having the loan with better/TMS and not having made payments to the new mortgage yet, etc?
Time will tell
Jul 25, 2020 03:53 PM
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dealkkJul 25, 2020 03:53 PM
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Quote from SDRebel :
Your question is too vague
sorry, so i just recently accept the offer and my agent ask me which lender will i use. I am still trying to shop so i am trying to ask is if i give my agent the current lender, is that mean it set and can't change if i find better rate?
Jul 25, 2020 03:55 PM
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HarryS4062Jul 25, 2020 03:55 PM
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Quote from SDRebel :
Thanks again
Also side note: When TMS sells or transfers your loan within the 1st year, they will not transfer or sell the current balance. They will transfer the original loan balance and the new processor will initially show that you are due to pay payments you already made to TMS and sometimes even showing you are overdue (But due to RESPA they cant report even if you are really overdue for 60 days from transfer date, so it should be ok). Then after some time the regular payments will show up at the new processor back dated to the day you actually made them at TMS and then any extra payments you made in a separate batch again correctly back dated. It could take 3 to 6 weeks during which you will be left wondering that happened to all the payments you made at TMS. But eventually it should show up.
Jul 25, 2020 05:13 PM
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gk6740Jul 25, 2020 05:13 PM
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Quote from dealkk :
sorry, so i just recently accept the offer and my agent ask me which lender will i use. I am still trying to shop so i am trying to ask is if i give my agent the current lender, is that mean it set and can't change if i find better rate?
again... a bit short of the deal.... but if you are talking about accepting the offer on a new home purchase, you can put down Mickey Mouse if you want. they just want their money at closing. Nobody cares.

I am not a lawyer and I can not see what your contract says but after buying 13 homes, I do know that sometimes they put down who the lender is, amount down, etc. But, at closing , they just want their money. TECHNICALLY, depending on how it is written you have "agreed" you will use XYZ bank and any change could, maybe, after legal proceedings maybe say you broke the contract. Again, can not see the contract. I still say nobody would have a clue until you sat down to sign the closing papers and they could not care... give them the agreed upon money.

With that said, you could notify them next week you changed something and they could then put up a fuss. Again - it just is not going to happen. (don't tell anybody anything)
Last edited by gk6740 July 25, 2020 at 10:18 AM.
Jul 25, 2020 05:15 PM
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missourianJul 25, 2020 05:15 PM
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Quote from Methodman :
Applied 5/7
Closed on 6/3
Funded on 6/8
Applied 7/20
Received $2500 credit 7/21

Took my rate from 3.875% to 3.125% for the first refi. Now I'm getting ready to lock 2.625% no costs. The extra $2500 x 2 on top of the interest savings makes this the deal of the year for me.
Yes indeed its deal of the year for you. FYI better rejected my PM outright
Jul 25, 2020 05:25 PM
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Jimmy4uJul 25, 2020 05:25 PM
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Quote from Zwitterion :
Why do a 15-year when you can do a 30 year and pay it off like a 15-year? Take a phat lender credit and just pay it off in 15 years.
Wouldn't you pay more interest if you do 30 yrs? Equity build up is much faster with 15 yrs term.
Jul 25, 2020 05:40 PM
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LifeinaboxJul 25, 2020 05:40 PM
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Quote from dealkk :
sorry, so i just recently accept the offer and my agent ask me which lender will i use. I am still trying to shop so i am trying to ask is if i give my agent the current lender, is that mean it set and can't change if i find better rate?
Who you pick to finance s purchase is a slightly different decision than refinance. Refinance is race to the bottom for who can get me the best rate/deal. House purchase, while I want the lowest rate possible, I also want confidence that the lender can close on time and with as little headache as possible. Based on my limited experience with some of the lenders on this thread, I'd have strong doubts about their ability to close under a tight escrow. Your agent shouldn't care who you pick or change to so long as they can close.

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Jul 25, 2020 05:57 PM
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SDRebelJul 25, 2020 05:57 PM
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
Also side note: When TMS sells or transfers your loan within the 1st year, they will not transfer or sell the current balance. They will transfer the original loan balance and the new processor will initially show that you are due to pay payments you already made to TMS and sometimes even showing you are overdue (But due to RESPA they cant report even if you are really overdue for 60 days from transfer date, so it should be ok). Then after some time the regular payments will show up at the new processor back dated to the day you actually made them at TMS and then any extra payments you made in a separate batch again correctly back dated. It could take 3 to 6 weeks during which you will be left wondering that happened to all the payments you made at TMS. But eventually it should show up.
lol sounds like a lot of run.
thanks
Jul 25, 2020 05:58 PM
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unlvrebelsJul 25, 2020 05:58 PM
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Quote from dealkk :
sorry, so i just recently accept the offer and my agent ask me which lender will i use. I am still trying to shop so i am trying to ask is if i give my agent the current lender, is that mean it set and can't change if i find better rate?
A couple of years ago, I obtained a pre-qualification letter from a lender and gave it to the agent of the builder. After 5 months, I used different lender to close when construction was completed.
Jul 25, 2020 06:02 PM
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HarryS4062Jul 25, 2020 06:02 PM
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Quote from dealkk :
sorry, so i just recently accept the offer and my agent ask me which lender will i use. I am still trying to shop so i am trying to ask is if i give my agent the current lender, is that mean it set and can't change if i find better rate?
Like it has been mentioned in other posts, buying and refinancing are 2 different things. Most discussion here is on refis and rates and lenders mentioned are for refis though they should have almost as good rates for purchases.
You want really good responsive LO who will will be there to guide you throughout when you are buying a home. So Better.com is likely not the best bet.
Currently Penfed has the best rates for purchase (2.25 for 15 year and 2.625 for 30 year). And they are doing 2500 in lender credit for purchase transactions as well.. I would also recommend Provident who have higher rates but you will have a LO to help you through the process. Since today is the last day of the Amex deal you could also apply at Better.com just to get your foot in the door, close your purchase transaction with one of the other lenders and if possible complete the refi at Better before October....lot of paperwork but still do-able. Nothing lost if you are not able to complete the refi - just cancel the app later.
Jul 25, 2020 06:28 PM
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shahhereJul 25, 2020 06:28 PM
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Quote from Letsgogogo :
Why are you mentioning Caliber?

What does this have to do with 2500 amex?

LOL, not sure if you missed my earlier posts but I listed another Lender contact from "Caliber Homer Loans" who kicked back amazing credit to me and for everyone else for the states she is licensed for. The problem is that I dont have finalized documents and I've received new disclosures that are not showing the the aggressive pricing. I did get a response yesterday that those disclosures are auto-generated by their system and that until the "exemption" pricing is applied it wont show the right amount; the amount provided initially in the Loan Estimate. I've been assured that the pricing will be the pricing quoted as its been approved but needs a final approval/review layer.


Sooooo for me I am about to close Better sometime next week and they upped their offer but not quite the total credit i have with Caliber. Question around this is what I go ahead and close but also continue with Caliber so I'd close next week and the loan would fund early August and that I would complete 2nd refinance by September as my lock expiration is 9/18 for Caliber. Questions about doing this or any logistics and if I would lose the Amex credit in the midst........



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CycloneFWJul 25, 2020 06:38 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
Sooooo for me I am about to close Better sometime next week and they upped their offer but not quite the total credit i have with Caliber. Question around this is what I go ahead and close but also continue with Caliber so I'd close next week and the loan would fund early August and that I would complete 2nd refinance by September as my lock expiration is 9/18 for Caliber. Questions about doing this or any logistics and if I would lose the Amex credit in the midst........
If your clock is until Sept., I don't think you would lost the Amex credit by taking both of the mortgages. That far out and you may very well be at a different servicer than TMS at that point. But even if not, there is nothing seemingly indicating the loan has to remain open until the credit is paid out. With there being over 30 days until the payoff of the new loan, I wouldn't worry about it. Your post-consumation disclosures from Better will take 3-5 weeks to show up, and once you have those, Better's part is pretty much done.
Jul 25, 2020 06:38 PM
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gofarhaveacigarJul 25, 2020 06:38 PM
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Any recent data points of how long the credit takes? Closed on my 2nd refi with them on 6/17, and still waiting.
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gk6740Jul 25, 2020 06:43 PM
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Quote from Jimmy4u :
Wouldn't you pay more interest if you do 30 yrs? Equity build up is much faster with 15 yrs term.
You need to do a spreadsheet to understand how this works.

Yes, with a shorter term, equity normally builds faster. Let me give you an extreme example of paying more than what is due.

$100,000 loan at 4%
4% is .333% per month
Month #1, you pay $20,000
interest for the past month comes to $333.33 ($100,000 * .3333)
you now owe $80,333.33
interest for the next month is based on $80,333.33

So, you are now paying interest on 80,000 and not close to $100k

In just over 5 months it is paid off.

Just an example, but interest is against the current principle amount.

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Jul 25, 2020 06:43 PM
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gk6740Jul 25, 2020 06:43 PM
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Quote from gofarhaveacigar :
Any recent data points of how long the credit takes? Closed on my 2nd refi with them on 6/17, and still waiting.
Just about every day or so somebody has been posting datapoints. There was at least one earlier today.
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