Klipsch: 2x R-625FA + R-41M + R-52C + R-100SW + Yamaha RX-A780 $1399 or w/ RX-A1080 $1599 or w/ RX-A2080 $1999 + free s/h

don't fall for this SD pushed "fake deal". bundling equipment only gets you the wrong equipment compared to what you really need. not to mention entry level klipsch are way over rated, loud but not accurate.

Quote from fourml8r : don't fall for this SD pushed "fake deal". bundling equipment only gets you the wrong equipment compared to what you really need. not to mention entry level klipsch are way over rated, loud but not accurate.

can you please define accurate to me? In last 5 years I tried 3 tv's, 4 different soundbars and 3 different 7.2 systems in my home. All sounded different to me... Hard to say if one is better than the other for watching tv, movies, blu-rays... only when it comes to 4k, atmos makes alot more sense, as sound mixing is vastly superior...

Quote from fourml8r : don't fall for this SD pushed "fake deal". bundling equipment only gets you the wrong equipment compared to what you really need. not to mention entry level klipsch are way over rated, loud but not accurate.

I agree, those are entry level speakers that I wouldn't recommend if you are looking for quality speakers. Always go for quality over quantity even if you have to build your setup slowly.

Quote from iconian : can you please define accurate to me? In last 5 years I tried 3 tv's, 4 different soundbars and 3 different 7.2 systems in my home. All sounded different to me... Hard to say if one is better than the other for watching tv, movies, blu-rays... only when it comes to 4k, atmos makes alot more sense, as sound mixing is vastly superior...

accuracy is the EXACT reproduction of what was recorded. so you are hearing exactly what the artist / movie director intended. some speakers color sound, reproduce it inaccurately. this may sound initially like it has more "oomph" to it, but that generally leads to ear fatigue over extended listening and again is not what the music/movie was intended to be reproduced as.

for tvs, consider then all pretty much bottom of the barrel when it comes to sound as they are designed with tiny, cheap amps / speakers. they are meant for casual listening.

sound bars a very slight step up from tv speakers, but for anything half way decent you should likely just invest that money in an actual "home theater system" that is specifically designed for sound reproduction.

next step up is a "home theater". sadly most people buy quantity over quality. a good 5.1 system will outperform a poor 7.1 system.

klipsch does have some decent higher end equipment, but their entry level stuff (as in this deal) is not at that level. this is designed to a specific price point for mass market (i.e bestbuy level" consumption. most people don't know what good speakers sound like, so when they go to bestbuy and this is the best item they have, that is what people end up with.

the use of atmos "enabled" speakers is a far step down from proper ceiling mounted atmos speakers (That is the way the system was intended to be reproduced). so reflecting sound off the ceiling is a poor compromise.

some people are able to notice the sound differences between equipment and some can not tell the difference between a soundbar and a $50K system.

bundles like this are an all in one solution, which means for most people its' not the right solution. a system should be built one quality piece (i.e. the right piece for the buyer) at a time.

take the $2K from this deal and buy a decent AVR (That has pre-outs for adding an external amp) and some quality "smaller front speakers". When you can afford it, buy nicer larger front speakers and move the smaller ones to use as your rears. Add a nice sub when you can afford it. That will be $2K well spent in the long run.

These speakers are just fine. They work no better or worse than my elemental design or Polk 705's. People really need to get a grip. Everyone hears things differently. I had some legends for a time and didn't like the sound at all. They were $2500 apiece. Since that journey and many other expensive buys. I would never spend that amount again. The gains are not worth it. Just because they are expensive does not mean you will like them. It's like arguing pixel shift or not for 4K. Some claim to see it others don't.

you're not in most of it, i'll do a point by point reply in-line below.

Quote from fourml8r : accuracy is the EXACT reproduction of what was recorded. so you are hearing exactly what the artist / movie director intended. some speakers color sound, reproduce it inaccurately. this may sound initially like it has more "oomph" to it, but that generally leads to ear fatigue over extended listening and again is not what the music/movie was intended to be reproduced as. 99.99% of any musical recording is for 2 channel listening, so 5.1 and 7.2 and higher are pointless in this situation. for tv/movie/etc - the actual mix is 5.1 to 7.2 and higher, and that's usually designed for different speakers, different loudness, and NOT accuracy, since no one really cares that explosion sounds authentic in your back left speakers, but that it sounds close enough, very loud, and made you twitch. in this situation, this system is neither for audiophiles or a perfect or near perfect atmos setup (more on that below) for tvs, consider then all pretty much bottom of the barrel when it comes to sound as they are designed with tiny, cheap amps / speakers. they are meant for casual listening. ya, they are, but it is what is is sound bars a very slight step up from tv speakers, but for anything half way decent you should likely just invest that money in an actual "home theater system" that is specifically designed for sound reproduction. they re some pretty good ones out there and for all-in-one system, for an apartment or otherwise space limited situation, it's often an excellent choice, if not the only decent choice. next step up is a "home theater". sadly most people buy quantity over quality. a good 5.1 system will outperform a poor 7.1 system. quality 7.2 system, would cost much more... we have had many for $2-4k in past too. from focal to polk lsi to klipsch higher end stuff. this is a 7.1 system with a yamaha receiver for the price points... klipsch does have some decent higher end equipment, but their entry level stuff (as in this deal) is not at that level. this is designed to a specific price point for mass market (i.e bestbuy level" consumption. most people don't know what good speakers sound like, so when they go to bestbuy and this is the best item they have, that is what people end up with. I tried very hard to explain that some things cost more $ but it rarely works. 90% of people either dont see the value or are limited but budget. I even explained to few of my close friend is great detail the benefits of these + how it applies to mattresses, couches, cutlery, etc but most just dont care. I'd love to think that everyone bought these (probably 1200+ bundles this year alone) are doing it because they want the best sound, but it's def not true. They want the best sound in 7.1 system w/ receiver for this price point, and this one is hard to beat. the use of atmos "enabled" speakers is a far step down from proper ceiling mounted atmos speakers (That is the way the system was intended to be reproduced). so reflecting sound off the ceiling is a poor compromise. yes, but many of us don't live in houses and / or are not able to wire and hang 4+ speakers, so this is likely the only option now for atmos. some people are able to notice the sound differences between equipment and some can not tell the difference between a soundbar and a $50K system. bundles like this are an all in one solution, which means for most people its' not the right solution. a system should be built one quality piece (i.e. the right piece for the buyer) at a time. I would say that for most people, it's the right solution for right now. If you're in the market for end game atmos or audiophile 2.0 system, then yes, this is not the right solution. but, if u're looking for aio solution that does good job with movies, sports blu-rays, atmos, and music, this is very well worth considering.

Quote from fourml8r : accuracy is the EXACT reproduction of what was recorded. so you are hearing exactly what the artist / movie director intended. some speakers color sound, reproduce it inaccurately. this may sound initially like it has more "oomph" to it, but that generally leads to ear fatigue over extended listening and again is not what the music/movie was intended to be reproduced as. for tvs, consider then all pretty much bottom of the barrel when it comes to sound as they are designed with tiny, cheap amps / speakers. they are meant for casual listening. sound bars a very slight step up from tv speakers, but for anything half way decent you should likely just invest that money in an actual "home theater system" that is specifically designed for sound reproduction. next step up is a "home theater". sadly most people buy quantity over quality. a good 5.1 system will outperform a poor 7.1 system. klipsch does have some decent higher end equipment, but their entry level stuff (as in this deal) is not at that level. this is designed to a specific price point for mass market (i.e bestbuy level" consumption. most people don't know what good speakers sound like, so when they go to bestbuy and this is the best item they have, that is what people end up with. the use of atmos "enabled" speakers is a far step down from proper ceiling mounted atmos speakers (That is the way the system was intended to be reproduced). so reflecting sound off the ceiling is a poor compromise. some people are able to notice the sound differences between equipment and some can not tell the difference between a soundbar and a $50K system. bundles like this are an all in one solution, which means for most people its' not the right solution. a system should be built one quality piece (i.e. the right piece for the buyer) at a time. take the $2K from this deal and buy a decent AVR (That has pre-outs for adding an external amp) and some quality "smaller front speakers". When you can afford it, buy nicer larger front speakers and move the smaller ones to use as your rears. Add a nice sub when you can afford it. That will be $2K well spent in the long run.

How much does a decent home theater setup cost? I thought $2k is a lot.

Quote from iconian : you're not in most of it, i'll do a point by point reply in-line below.

you made a lot of assumptions in your reply. there is not ONE right solution for everyone. however, everyone who is interested in putting a system together would benefit from putting it together one quality piece at a time.

i mostly disagree with the your comments about home theater. there are many people in the film industry whose job it is to provide a quality soundtrack for movies. even my wife can tell when a film has a decent soundtrack, and she is no audiophile. .

if people don't care what work went into a recording (audio or movie) then why even spend $2K on a system like this one. get a $100 sound bar and be done with it.

Quote from satellite779 : How much does a decent home theater setup cost? I thought $2k is a lot.

way too many variables to answer that question, budget is always the biggest factor, but other items include:

• room size
• listening volume
• type of use, movies, home theater, stereo music
• listening space limitations
• if home theater - type of display, display size, tv or projector / screen
• if music - type of music
• seating for solo listening or multi person use
• number of speakers - different for stereo or 5.1 or 7.2.4 etc.
• properly sized speakers
• properly sized amplification

if you are serious about setting something that you will enjoy for the long term, message me and i can guide you through the process.

there are also plenty of AV forums where you can get much better advice / help from real AV fans, Most of the folks you find on SD wouldn't know a home theater from a computer hard drive.

Quote from fourml8r : don't fall for this SD pushed "fake deal". bundling equipment only gets you the wrong equipment compared to what you really need. not to mention entry level klipsch are way over rated, loud but not accurate.

Is there a way to block Klipsch deals? Right now I put Adorama at -2 store list, but I don't have a problem with Adorama as a whole, just the incessant Klipsch spam. TIA

Quote from fourml8r : way too many variables to answer that question, budget is always the biggest factor, but other items include: room size listening volume type of use, movies, home theater, stereo music listening space limitations if home theater - type of display, display size, tv or projector / screen if music - type of music seating for solo listening or multi person use number of speakers - different for stereo or 5.1 or 7.2.4 etc. properly sized speakers properly sized amplification if you are serious about setting something that you will enjoy for the long term, message me and i can guide you through the process. there are also plenty of AV forums where you can get much better advice / help from real AV fans, Most of the folks you find on SD wouldn't know a home theater from a computer hard drive.

I need your advice

Quote from alm4rr : Is there a way to block Klipsch deals? Right now I put Adorama at -2 store list, but I don't have a problem with Adorama as a whole, just the incessant Klipsch spam. TIA

Hey how about if when you see it YOU IGNORE IT and move on, don't even bother reading or posting in it !!! 💡

Oh wait that makes way to much sense never mind 🙄

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I sent u a pm