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Costco Members: LG Gram Laptop: 17" 2560x1600, i7-1065G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Costco.com has for their Members: LG Gram 17" Ultra Thin and Light Laptop (17Z90N-R.AAC8U1) on sale for $1,199.99. Shipping is free. Thanks green_key

Specs:
  • 17" 2560x1600 WQXGA IPS Display
  • Intel i7-1065G7 1.3GHz 4-Core / 8-Thread 10th Gen Processor
  • 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory
  • 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
  • backlit Keyboard + Fingerprint ID
  • Dual-Band 802.11ac Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
  • Ports:
    • 1x HDMI
    • 3x USB 3.1
    • 1x USB 3.1 Type-C w/ Thunderbolt
    • 1x Headphone-out
    • 1x RJ-45
    • 1x Micro SD
  • 2-Cell 80 WHr Battery
  • 2.98lbs

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Offer valid through 4/5/20 or while supplies last.

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Costco.com has for their Members: LG Gram 17" Ultra Thin and Light Laptop (17Z90N-R.AAC8U1) on sale for $1,199.99. Shipping is free. Thanks green_key

Specs:
  • 17" 2560x1600 WQXGA IPS Display
  • Intel i7-1065G7 1.3GHz 4-Core / 8-Thread 10th Gen Processor
  • 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory
  • 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
  • backlit Keyboard + Fingerprint ID
  • Dual-Band 802.11ac Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
  • Ports:
    • 1x HDMI
    • 3x USB 3.1
    • 1x USB 3.1 Type-C w/ Thunderbolt
    • 1x Headphone-out
    • 1x RJ-45
    • 1x Micro SD
  • 2-Cell 80 WHr Battery
  • 2.98lbs

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Offer valid through 4/5/20 or while supplies last.

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justin4192
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I was able to return my Gram 17 2019 model to Costco before my 90 days and purchased the 2020 model. My primary reason was the improved, wider keyboard with regular number pad. I found the 2019 a bit cramped (backspace in particular I'd miss) and the condensed number pad annoying even though I originally thought I would live with it. The improved processor and integrated graphics are a plus as well. I have been using the new model for a few days now and ran a few tests as well. Here are my comments:

The screen is the biggest selling point to me. I like the larger size, great color/contrast and brightness. The real-estate is great for photo editing. The glare does not bother me and the brightness has been more than plenty. It is a huge improvement over a Lenovo Flex 15 I tried out. I also had a Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED 4K laptop to compare to and the LG Gram 17 was my favorite. The OLED screen had an uneven brightness vertical band on the right side and I was always aware of possible burn in. Side by side, the colors and contrast were not noticeably different even though everyone raves about OLED screens being so superior. I much prefer the larger 17" and 16 x 10 ratio and not having to worry about possible burn in.
The chassis on the 2020 model does seem a little firmer than the 2019. They redesigned the monitor hinge and it seems sturdier.
The touchpad is the same. I really like it. Yes, it does depress a bit as some video reviewers point out, but it's not a big deal to me.
Battery life is excellent and I have not had any issues with drain while the computer sleeps. I often just close the screen in the evening, leaving it on battery only and when I return in the morning, the charge status has no significant change. I haven't written down the numbers, but I recall leaving it around 80% at night and coming back in the morning and it being near that.
I really like how quiet both generations Gram 17s CPU fans are. The Aero 15 was annoyingly loud, even at idle or low usage. The fans had a higher pitch that I could not stand.
Heat has not been an issue for me. It does get warm more so in the center, rear near the monitor since that is where the processor is. I use the laptop on my lap a lot and it is not uncomfortably warm.

Here are several test results I have:

Novabench:

2019

2020

You'll see improvements across the board for the i7-1065G7.

PugetBench v0.8 BETA for Photoshop

2019

2020

You will see that the i7-8565U actually performed some of the tasks better than the i7-1065G7.

In real world use, so far I have not noticed a significant difference in power between the two. I haven't tried games yet, possibly later. I tried some on the 2019 and it didn't work well as expected.

To conclude, I am very impressed with the LG Gram 17. This is my favorite laptop I have used.

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Mar 18, 2020
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TomI5144
Mar 18, 2020
35 Posts
Quote from gunnerxl :
Link to the matte screen protector please

Also - did anyone get a keyboard cover, those silicone ones? It would dampen the noise a little bit on the keyboard when typing which would be make it an even better keyboard, I ordered one off Amazon [amazon.com] despite it stating it fits the Gram 17 17Z90N model - it only fits the smaller 2019 LG Gram version keyboard.


I have the 2019 model, and I knew the glossy screen was going to bother me, so I researched a matte screen protector. I HIGHLY recommend https://www.photodon.com/mm5/merc...de=3023-03 the MXH 25%. Great, and I mean, great quality. Comes with everything you need to put it on with fantastic results. Videos on youtube for applying their products and those who have used this on other laptops. This version is specifically cut for the Gram 17. My prior laptop was a 17 in Samsung that I got specifically because it had a matte screen.
Mar 19, 2020
183 Posts
Joined Jul 2018
Mar 19, 2020
gunnerxl
Mar 19, 2020
183 Posts
Quote from rekerdguy :
ZMI zPower Turbo 65W USB-C PD Wall Charger is a good one for this laptop https://smile.amazon.com/gp/produ...UTF8&psc=1
Thanks for this recommendation, decided to go with a Wavlink TB3 hub which will afford me a second TB3 daisy chained port. It's rated 85W so should do the trick. Would you say 65W charger minimum to charge via usb c? Can't find official rating anywhere, but I know for a fact connected to the TB3 port of my qnap TVS-672XT it does not hold charge.
Mar 19, 2020
183 Posts
Joined Jul 2018
Mar 19, 2020
gunnerxl
Mar 19, 2020
183 Posts
Quote from TomI5144 :
I have the 2019 model, and I knew the glossy screen was going to bother me, so I researched a matte screen protector. I HIGHLY recommend https://www.photodon.com/mm5/merc...de=3023-03 the MXH 25%. Great, and I mean, great quality. Comes with everything you need to put it on with fantastic results. Videos on youtube for applying their products and those who have used this on other laptops. This version is specifically cut for the Gram 17. My prior laptop was a 17 in Samsung that I got specifically because it had a matte screen.
Sweet will check it out. Though a bit pricer than the $28.95 Amazon Celicious option could be worth it. I'll hold off on the screen protector for now as I keep forgetting it's not a touch screen ;P
Mar 19, 2020
199 Posts
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Mar 19, 2020
vitapiubella
Mar 19, 2020
199 Posts
Quote from WingsOfF :
Just copy the EFI folder here after updating the bios to latest

https://www.tonymacx86.com/thread...st-2083586
Thanks for the info, but I've already given the laptop away. I'm quite happy with my new 16" MacBook, even though my bank account isn't 🤯😇

Interestingly enough, the screen in the LG is more vibrant than on the new MacBook. The MacBook is supposed to be more color accurate, but since that's not important to me, I wish it looked more like the LG! Maybe I can mess with the settings in my mac?? Anyhow, that's def another definite shout out for the LG 🍾
Mar 19, 2020
16 Posts
Joined Apr 2013
Mar 19, 2020
rekerdguy
Mar 19, 2020
16 Posts
Quote from gunnerxl :
Thanks for this recommendation, decided to go with a Wavlink TB3 hub which will afford me a second TB3 daisy chained port. It's rated 85W so should do the trick. Would you say 65W charger minimum to charge via usb c? Can't find official rating anywhere, but I know for a fact connected to the TB3 port of my qnap TVS-672XT it does not hold charge.
Yes, 65w is good for this. The one you picked should work.
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Mar 19, 2020
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Mar 19, 2020
MrGreed
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Mar 19, 2020
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There
Quote from vitapiubella :
Thanks for the info, but I've already given the laptop away. I'm quite happy with my new 16" MacBook, even though my bank account isn't 🤯😇

Interestingly enough, the screen in the LG is more vibrant than on the new MacBook. The MacBook is supposed to be more color accurate, but since that's not important to me, I wish it looked more like the LG! Maybe I can mess with the settings in my mac?? Anyhow, that's def another definite shout out for the LG 🍾
There is no way the screen on the Gram is more vibrant/bright

Macbook Pro has probably 100+ nits greater brightness with the most color accurate screen on the market

But i was impressed by the laptop ended up giving it to my nephew
Mar 19, 2020
199 Posts
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Mar 19, 2020
vitapiubella
Mar 19, 2020
199 Posts
Quote from mrgreed18 :
There

There is no way the screen on the Gram is more vibrant/bright

Macbook Pro has probably 100+ nits greater brightness with the most color accurate screen on the market

But i was impressed by the laptop ended up giving it to my nephew
Pretty sure I used the wrong wording to describe what I saw when comparing the screen colors etc.

I went to the same image websites on both the 16" MacBook Pro and the 17" LG Gram and compared the same images on both laptops.

The colors on the LG seemed more vibrant, as in there was more "pop" to pictures. They looked like they had more color in them, if that's a thing. All of the images on the LG screen looked much better than they did on the MacBook. And (to me) it wasn't even close.

Again, I know that the LG is less "color accurate" than the MacBook, and maybe by a long margin, but I'm not doing high end photo or video editing. So for me, since it doesn't matter, color "correctness" be dammed, I liked the LG screen better lol.

I hope that makes sense Smilie

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Mar 20, 2020
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fresh82
Mar 20, 2020
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I noticed that the touchpad is not centered with the keyboard sans numpad. For those who have received and used the laptop, does the numpad get in the way when typing? Is it comfortable esp. for the right wrist?
Mar 20, 2020
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Mar 20, 2020
FairLeopard7087
Mar 20, 2020
2 Posts
I bought it last week from costco store. Not liking its screen resolution. This is partly because I was using a 4K 15.6" Asus laptop before. It absolutely does not heat up over continuous use. (some reviewer said about heating problem that does not exist).
Mar 22, 2020
10 Posts
Joined Mar 2020
Mar 22, 2020
newuser7
Mar 22, 2020
10 Posts
Quote from fresh82 :
I noticed that the touchpad is not centered with the keyboard sans numpad. For those who have received and used the laptop, does the numpad get in the way when typing? Is it comfortable esp. for the right wrist?
I just received one of these. The touchpad, for my usage, is in the perfect location being centered. I have no problems typing, and I don't use the numpad. It's very comfortable.

Would someone who has an LG gram check something on their touchpad? It seems to have a built-in delay from when tapping the touchpad to when the click is registered (and using a mouse has no such delay.) There is a setting in windows 10 touchpad settings, for touchpad sensitivity. You can choose Low, Medium, High, or Most Sensitive. But on my LG gram, there is basically no difference at all between any of these settings. They all have the exact same amount of built in delay. I wonder if it is a hardware problem. If anyone has access to an LG Gram and can tell me if that is the same on yours, or if you can actually remove the delay completely by setting to "most sensitive". I'd be grateful to know.
Last edited by newuser7 March 21, 2020 at 05:14 PM.
Mar 22, 2020
3,830 Posts
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corazones
Mar 22, 2020
3,830 Posts
The glare from the display is too much; likely will return since it's hurting my eyes. Probably worse if I use it outdoor. Going back to my Mac Book Pro. I was sold on the big screen, light weight, and hardware specs but the glare and the mediocre keyboard outweigh the pros.
Mar 22, 2020
92 Posts
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Mar 22, 2020
BlisteringBarnacles
Mar 22, 2020
92 Posts
Quote from newuser7 :
I just received one of these. The touchpad, for my usage, is in the perfect location being centered. I have no problems typing, and I don't use the numpad. It's very comfortable.

Would someone who has an LG gram check something on their touchpad? It seems to have a built-in delay from when tapping the touchpad to when the click is registered (and using a mouse has no such delay.) There is a setting in windows 10 touchpad settings, for touchpad sensitivity. You can choose Low, Medium, High, or Most Sensitive. But on my LG gram, there is basically no difference at all between any of these settings. They all have the exact same amount of built in delay. I wonder if it is a hardware problem. If anyone has access to an LG Gram and can tell me if that is the same on yours, or if you can actually remove the delay completely by setting to "most sensitive". I'd be grateful to know.
I can verify that this does occur. The touchpad is manufactured by Elan, and if there was a way of getting the Elan drivers installed instead of the generic Microsoft ones, turning off palm detection in the settings would likely fix the delay. Elan drivers from Lenovo (yes) do get installed, but do not show up in Device Manager. LG seems to be very lousy about drivers.
Mar 22, 2020
10 Posts
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newuser7
Mar 22, 2020
10 Posts
Quote from ritwyk :
I can verify that this does occur. The touchpad is manufactured by Elan, and if there was a way of getting the Elan drivers installed instead of the generic Microsoft ones, turning off palm detection in the settings would likely fix the delay. Elan drivers from Lenovo (yes) do get installed, but do not show up in Device Manager. LG seems to be very lousy about drivers.
Thank you for verifying this, and for the info about Elan/Lenovo! The LG Gram 17 has a nice design and great features, but this touchpad delay issue gets in the way of doing fast and precise work in productivity apps, without a mouse. I'll search for a registry tweak to fix it. But LG should include a palm-rejection disable switch in the next update of the "LG Control Center", without changing the otherwise good response of the touchpad (which would be a miracle!)
Last edited by newuser7 March 22, 2020 at 10:27 AM.
Mar 22, 2020
92 Posts
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BlisteringBarnacles
Mar 22, 2020
92 Posts
Quote from newuser7 :
Thank you for verifying this, and for the info about Elan/Lenovo! The LG Gram 17 has a nice design and great features, but this touchpad delay issue gets in the way of doing fast and precise work in productivity apps, without a mouse. I'll search for a registry tweak to fix it. But LG should include a palm-rejection disable switch in the next update of the "LG Control Center", without changing the otherwise good response of the touchpad (which would be a miracle!)
If you do come up with a registry tweak, please post it here. I mostly use a mouse, but I can't unsee the lag now.

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Mar 22, 2020
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newuser7
Mar 22, 2020
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Quote from ritwyk :
If you do come up with a registry tweak, please post it here. I mostly use a mouse, but I can't unsee the lag now.
Will do.

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