Dell Inspiron 15 5000 2-in-1 Touchscreen Laptop: i5-10210U, 8GB DDR4, 256GB NVMe, Backlit Keyboard, USB C - $499.99 + Free Shipping @ Dell

It's good to see manufacturers not forcing 4K displays if one wants a touch panel (Looking at you Razer). That's a really consumer-friendly move.

how much extra if one wants a touchscreen 4k display?

thanks!

FYI, this is fake 10th gen Intel. Essentially a minor upgrade from the 8th gen of 2 years back. The real 10th gen has G in the processor name, not U.

What about Dell Inspiron 13 7000 2-in-1 for the same price-$500?
https://slickdeals.net/f/13893410-dell-inspiron-13-7000-2-in-1-touchscreen-laptop-platinum-silver-499-99-1080p-ips-i5-8265u-8gb-ddr4-256gb-m-2-ssd-backlit-keyboard

Older processor in the 13 7000 from what I see.

The U denotes 'Ultra-low power'. The G# denotes different graphics features.

Upfront before I get into details, If the defining feature of 10th generation Intel for you is just the lithography scale, then this CPU doesn't qualify. It's 14nm compared to the other 10th gen core which is 10nm.


This CPU is a Comet Lake core. This core is an extension/evolution of the the Whiskey Lake core (which is dub'd 8th generation. More cpus that Intel (or anyone else) makes are ones which are refinements to previous chips. This doesn't mean the chip is old or fake.

It is worth noting that the Comet Lake core are still using 14nm lithography compared to Intel's other line of 10th generation chips, Ice Lake, which uses 10nm. This would be a big deal if Intel wasn't having issues with getting higher clock rate with 10nm so the Comet Lake chips generally beat corresponding Ice Lake cores.

The TDPs for the two cores is listed separated for either low-power versus high-power, it's hard to compare the range, but the Comet Lake cores seem in the same ballpark at the Ice Lake.

In terms of definitely being 10th generation, I would point out that unlike the Whiskey Lake core it was based on, Comet Lake has full AVX-512 support. There may be other feature additions but that's the main one I care about.

The idea of CPU generations when they have multiple CPU lines with differently cores (not to mention different models for desktop, mobile, and server) is a lousy way of differentiating CPU tier/models I don't know what would be better necessarily, but I think looking the CPU's details specs gives me a better idea (beyond core count and clock rate).

I've pointed out the differences I see/care about. I don't think calling it 'fake' is anyway is proper. People can look up the specs. It's based on an older core (like most CPUs are) but it's higher clock rates, more features, and broader instruction support.

The Comet Lake should have been just called the 9th gen and Ice Lake 10th gen. The UHD graphics in Comet are based on a years old design that performs poorly vs something that is actually somewhat competitive with the Ryzen APU's with Ice Lake. Also, 10nm should get somewhat better battery life, in theory at least. It's poor marketing (or I guess genius from their perspective) to have both labeled as 10th gen as there are marketable differences and to most consumers, they're going to see 10th Gen and not realize that they're getting a product based on older tech than the newer tech.