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HP Envy x360 15.6" Touchscreen 2-In-1 Laptop (15-DS1063CL) on sale for
$599.99 valid for
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Specs- AMD Ryzen 5 4500U 2.37GHz Processor
- 15.6" 1920x1080 FHD IPS Touchscreen WLED Backlit Display
- 512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD
- 8GB DDR4 SDRAM Memory (3200)
- AMD Radeon Graphics
- Intel WiFi 6 (2x2) w/ Bluetooth 5.0
- 4-Cell 55 Wh Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery
- Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
- Inputs
- 2x USB Type-A
- 1x USB Type-C
- 1x HDMI 2.0
Offer valid through July 26, 2020 or while promotion last; limit 2 per member. Arrives approximately 3-5 business days from time of purchase.- Discombobulated
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1) Make sure you don't do a fresh OS install right off the bat, I actually got an offer from Dropbox for 25 GBs free for 1 year (in addition to whatever storage plan I had so far). All I had to do was sign into Dropbox (that was already pre-installed)
2) Make sure you do ALL windows updates, ALL Windows Store updates, and finally, ALL HP Support Assistant Updates (which does include a BIOS update already)
3) Make sure you're plugged into the power outlet to charge the battery, and go to HP Command Center and set the performance mode to "Performance"
4) Click on the battery icon in the bottom task bar, and slide the slider to the right for "Best Performance"
5) Uninstall any junk from control panel (I uninstalled mcafee, some VPN bloat ware, and alot of games from the app list)
Now, for initial thoughts on overall package:
1) I'm coming from an HP Pavillion x360 that LITERALLY just died 1 day after my 1 year warranty expired. I sworn off any HP products ,but decided to roll dice on this, PRIMARILY due to Coscto's return policy (90 days) and the 4 year warranty stack with citi card. I'm going to use the shit out of this in the next 90 days (before I upgrade SSD or RAM), just to make sure all is good.
2) The trackpad is plastic, but does support windows precision. Gestures work fine, overall feel ain't bad honestly.
3) Keyboard feels nice IMO. Nice spacing, nice feel, can't complain for something that's $599 pre tax
4) Screen is 1080p, but honestly, I wish it was brighter. Well lit indoor room is pushing the visibility on this, and outside use is impossible (just my opinion)
5) Haven't tried wifi yet (to confirm if I have any connectivity issues reported by previous comments). I'm hard wired into my 1 gig router with anker USB C dongle, getting my usual 900+ up and down, no problems.
6) Speakers aren't anything special, but don't sound bad. I haven't blasted on full volume just yet (to check for rattle as reported on some youtube video of the 4700U ryzen HP ENVY x360.
7) Power cable included is a barrel one, BUT it's kind of small and looks nice. Cable isn't braided, obviously isn't USB C, but I'm not disappointed.
8) Ryzen stickers are crooked on the deck of laptop (who cares)
9) Display unit at my Costco DID have a misaligned hinge (you can clearly tell just by looking). I haven't inspected the hinge too much on mine, but it looks OK
10) Fingerprint reader is right below the period button on NUMPAD, not on the actual keyboard (replacing the CNRL button) like one of the youtube videos I saw (which actually was for the X360 4700U model)
11) Packaging was impressive IMO for a $599 laptop. Laptop itlself was sealed in plastic, everything in box was included in box, and it was easy to open. I've never owned Apple or more expensive laptops, so to some packaging might not be best of best (who cares honestly)
Overall, honeymoon phase overview, I think I feel like $599 is a fair price for what you get. Overall speed of system is snappy, and at idle, I'm only using 2.6 GBs of RAM. 90 day Costco return policy is hard to beat, so if a better deal comes up, or I just don't like something (or it freaking dies like my x360 pavilion 1 day after the 1 year warranty expires) I'll just return.
Other freebie is the 1 month of office 365, don't forget to take advantage of that, on top of the 25GB free of dropbox for 1 year.
UPDATE: some common sense tips
1) Make sure the laptop box has unopened, SEALED "HP SEAL" stickers on top
2) All I had to do when buying in store was take a picture of display sticker, and clerk just scanned the code off the picture off my phone
3) Clerk at checkout (that you pay at), SHOULD give you a receipt (that's your copy) and some pickup slip thing for the guy that usually puts your stuff in a box to walk over to the cage and pick it up
4) I have NOT heard the fan AT ALL the whole time I've used this laptop today, EXCEPT for updating the BIOS. I'm being 100% honest, I have not heard the fan kick in at all, even during the initial 30+ Windows Update list of things to update when setting up the laptop. Laptop is cool to touch everywhere (although all I have opened right now is 4 tabs in new Edge browser and spotify - 4GB RAM use)
5) The LEFT hinge on my unit is slightly misaligned (you can tell by opening the laptop flat on the table and comparing the hinges). It's not as bad as what I saw on display at my local Coscto, and doesn't seem to cause any display issues, so I will let it be.
6) Might be due to my slightly misaligned left hinge, but when I close the laptop, the right side of the closed laptop isn't 100% closed (I can push down on the screen to "close" it completely and hear it close, but it's such a small imperfection I'm going to just liv ewith it. Just wanted to point out the real world quality control issues
Screen - Seems pretty good so far, plenty bright for my use. Colors are more muted than MB Pro. Haven't played around with color settings though. Very glossy, touchscreen use could cause a ton of fingerprint smudges. Bezel is annoying at first but after a while I didn't really notice it. (See attached photo of the x360 side by side with my MB Pro and both screens on max brightness).
Trackpad - This is my biggest annoyance. Plastic feeling, too much travel when clicked, sometimes taps aren't recognized. Will use a wireless mouse in most situations so not end of the world, but definitely a pain when forced to use it.
Keyboard - Somewhat disappointing here as well. Smaller keys and slightly larger spacing than my MB pro has caused a lot of typos. Keys in the middle of the keyboard are fairly quiet while those at both the left and right edge have a hollow, plasticky sound. Have to get used to it being off center due to number pad.
Fingerprint reader is excellent. Immediate recognition every time.
Overall performance seems very good. Boots in a few seconds. Loads apps quickly. So far no issues with multiple tabs, but haven't really maxed this out yet.
Battery life seems very good but time will tell. Have yet to watch a movie, game, or do anything very taxing. Haven't heard fans at all or noticed any heat, even when doing updates.
Physically, it is noticeably heavier than MB Pro, but I will not be carrying this around daily so not that big of an issue. Wouldn't want to have to haul it in a backpack all day though.
Fit and finish seem quite good overall. Hinges aligned, lid closes completely, so far no QC issues that others have mentioned. Feels solid, though there is more flex in the screen than my MB, it's not concerning. Biggest complaint here is that the lid seems to be a magnet for smudges. Again, minor cosmetic thing but it is noticeable.
Probably will not use this in tablet mode, so no real comment here. Have not tried the pen yet.
Again, overall very pleased with it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread and helped in my decision to jump on this one.
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Kind of a bummer about having to strip off and re-apply the rubber feet to upgrade the RAM. Guess we should be glad to have the opportunity!
No abnormal fan noise, though I didn't really perform any "intensive" benchmarks. But it was pretty quiet and cool to touch in my handling of it, especially when moving back and forth from laptop to tablet mode. It's almost a one-handed lid open, but not quite. Screen flex is minimal and shouldn't be a factor. There is screen wobble when touching the screen in laptop mode. The 15" form factor and weight is definitely too big for tablet use, but is fine in laptop mode. Keyboard is tactile and keys are stable, but travel is a little short compared to thinkpad level keyboards. Backlight only has two levels and the light shines through the key legends. Build quality is great with the entire chassis being aluminum and there is no creaking when flipping the laptop around or deck-flex in typing. Hinges are standard 2-in-1 fare, but are metal and seem very durable. The power button is on the side like with the Lenovo Flex, but is a lot more solid and shouldn't be accidentally pressed.
My only major complaints are with removing the bottom panel and needing a torx security bit, as well as ripping off both of the long rubber feet, as well as the display. It's IPS and glossy 1080p as to be expected, but the brightness was not very impressive under the harsh fluorescent lights of the store. It should be serviceable for general use, but I wouldn't trust it for color accurate work.
Let me know if I forgot anything. I was also looking at a the Lenovo Flex 5 with the 4700u, 16gb RAM, and 512gb SSD for $749.99, but it seems like that RAM is soldered on, so very little upgrade path there. It also lacks Wifi 6.
Does anyone have a trick for this?
A friend said to use hair dryer when removing it. I was thinking of putting it on wax paper afterwards.
Does anyone have a trick for this?
A friend said to use hair dryer when removing it. I was thinking of putting it on wax paper afterwards.
In hindsight, warming w. a hairdryer would have probably made it easier to remove.
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I never heard the fans when installing everything or playing around a bit in Photoshop, it was totally silent. I have some new ram arriving Sunday. After I get it installed I'll comment on the process and if there were any issues.
I never heard the fans when installing everything or playing around a bit in Photoshop, it was totally silent. I have some new ram arriving Sunday. After I get it installed I'll comment on the process and if there were any issues.
Edit: The battery life is very good. I have it on max performance on battery right now, and it's at 70% after 3.5 hours. No video playback though.
I posted a link to submit the price adjustment request online earlier in this thread.
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