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Epson Home Cinema 3800 HDR Pixel-Shift 4K UHD 3LCD Home Theater Projector. $1,299 free shipping b&h

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Puzzlebobble
06-15-2020 at 06:19 PM.
06-15-2020 at 06:19 PM.
Put price in title please.
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DavidT9987
06-16-2020 at 08:26 AM.
06-16-2020 at 08:26 AM.
For anyone who cares, this is not a 4K projector. It is 1080P x 2 = 4 million pixels. You need at least 8 million pixels to be certified as a 4K projector. You will notice the resolution difference
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broadwayblue
06-16-2020 at 08:28 AM.
06-16-2020 at 08:28 AM.
Quote from DavidT9987 :
For anyone who cares, this is not a 4K projector. It is 1080P x 2 = 4 million pixels. You need at least 8 million pixels to be certified as a 4K projector. You will notice the resolution difference
Yes, it is true that this is faux 4k. However, most reviews claim this system works very well and can fool most people into thinking it is actually true 4k. Also, I am not aware of any full 4k projector within hundreds of dollars of this price.
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DavidT9987
06-16-2020 at 08:36 AM.
06-16-2020 at 08:36 AM.
Quote from broadwayblue :
Yes, it is true that this is faux 4k. However, most reviews claim this system works very well and can fool most people into thinking it is actually true 4k. Also, I am not aware of any full 4k projector within hundreds of dollars of this price.


Optoma's UHD50x pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution = $1599
https://www.optoma.com/us/product/uhd50x/

BenQ's HT3550 pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution = $1499
https://www.benq.com/en-us/projec...tions.html

BenQ's TK850 = pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution

Meanwhile, the HC3800 is "4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)"
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krisnodoubt
06-16-2020 at 08:54 AM.
06-16-2020 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from DavidT9987 :
Optoma's UHD50x pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution = $1599
https://www.optoma.com/us/product/uhd50x/

BenQ's HT3550 pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution = $1499
https://www.benq.com/en-us/projec...tions.html [benq.com]

BenQ's TK850 = pixel shifting "faux 4K" projector = 8.3 million pixels = 3840 x 2160 resolution

Meanwhile, the HC3800 is "4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)"
At this price point the "4K" difference between Optoma, BenQ and Epson is a wash. The Epson 5050 is also a 4K Enhanced projector and will blow all these projectors away albeit at almost twice the price. At this price point I wouldn't put too much into whether these are faux 4K or 4K enhanced and go with one that fits your needs (response times for gaming, brightness for ambient light etc.).

I tried Optoma UHD60 and Epson 3800 and went with 3800 as that seemed more versatile to me and was quieter as well. The DLP induced rainbow effect was a dealbreaker to me as well.

This is a good read as well
https://www.projectorcentral.com/...efined.htm
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DavidT9987
06-16-2020 at 09:16 AM.
06-16-2020 at 09:16 AM.
Quote from krisnodoubt :
At this price point the "4K" difference between Optoma, BenQ and Epson is a wash. The Epson 5050 is also a 4K Enhanced projector and will blow all these projectors away albeit at almost twice the price. At this price point I wouldn't put too much into whether these are faux 4K or 4K enhanced and go with one that fits your needs (response times for gaming, brightness for ambient light etc.).

I tried Optoma UHD60 and Epson 3800 and went with 3800 as that seemed more versatile to me and was quieter as well. The DLP induced rainbow effect was a dealbreaker to me as well.

This is a good read as well
https://www.projectorcentral.com/...efined.htm
Epsons 5050 is a "4K enhanced projector" and qualifies as a certified 4K projector since it does throw out 8.3 million pixels. Not's not a native 4K projector but just like BenQ's or Optoma's model, it still throws out a 8.3 million pixels at half of the cost.

The Epson 3800 on the other hand is just a QHD=2K projector simple as that. It isn't even a faux 4k projector and your article you linked is sharing the difference between JVC/Sony's native chip projector vs pixel shifting that still equates to 8.3m = 3840 x 2160 resolution.

2K projectors look nice but it isn't 4K.
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xtrosity
06-16-2020 at 09:22 AM.
06-16-2020 at 09:22 AM.
4K discussion aside this is a really good price if you want this projector.
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krisnodoubt
06-16-2020 at 11:13 AM.
06-16-2020 at 11:13 AM.
Quote from DavidT9987 :
Epsons 5050 is a "4K enhanced projector" and qualifies as a certified 4K projector since it does throw out 8.3 million pixels. Not's not a native 4K projector but just like BenQ's or Optoma's model, it still throws out a 8.3 million pixels at half of the cost.

The Epson 3800 on the other hand is just a QHD=2K projector simple as that. It isn't even a faux 4k projector and your article you linked is sharing the difference between JVC/Sony's native chip projector vs pixel shifting that still equates to 8.3m = 3840 x 2160 resolution.

2K projectors look nice but it isn't 4K.
Resolution for 5050 and 3800 is pretty much the same. Now 5050 has higher contrast ratio, motorized lens etc. Where do you see the resolution difference?

https://www.projectorcentral.com/...id_2=10863
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DavidT9987
06-16-2020 at 11:39 AM.
06-16-2020 at 11:39 AM.
Quote from krisnodoubt :
Resolution for 5050 and 3800 is pretty much the same. Now 5050 has higher contrast ratio, motorized lens etc. Where do you see the resolution difference?

https://www.projectorcentral.com/...id_2=10863
You are right. Both are 2K projectors
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R3DTR1X
06-16-2020 at 04:15 PM.
06-16-2020 at 04:15 PM.
Got mine for $1260 from Parker Gwen last week but they are OOS now. Great projector! Dell has for same price but you get back 3 or 6% in Dell Rewards (can't remember what it is currently) and 18 months 0% interest financing if that's your thing.
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R3DTR1X
06-16-2020 at 04:21 PM.
06-16-2020 at 04:21 PM.
I might add that anyone who is complaining about faux 4K has probably never seen a good faux 4K projector. Sometimes specs are just specs. It's the picture quality that matters... and unless you are sitting close enough to actually see the screen door effect (grid between individual pixels) you will not notice the difference.
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deals4u
06-20-2020 at 09:14 AM.
06-20-2020 at 09:14 AM.
Is it worth going for Epson 4010 for the extra $200 ?
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