The 10700k and 9900k are very very similar except 10th gen is:
$70 cheaper
Newer
Slightly better performance
Future upgrade path on new intel socket
There's absolutely no reason to get a 9900k for anything more than like $350
But why aren't you including cost of a new socket 1200 mobo in your calculation? That adds at least $150 for the setup, no? Also, let's not forget TDP, 10700k being 125W vs 9900k 95W. So, probably a new HSF, $50.
And now 10700k is not $70 cheaper, but actually is $130 more expensive - for similar, slightly better performance. Is future upgrade path - read paying extra NOW so you don't have to buy new mobo for a few years - worth $130? That I don't know. Depends on how often you up your boxes, if you have use for older tech (motherinlaw pc, FS boxes, HTPCs, etc.). As socket 1200 tech matures, mobos will get cheaper/better, so there's that, too.
So building a new box - probably yes, gen 10 cpu, beefier hsf and 1200 mobo.
But if you already have socket 1151(300) box and want to up cpu - the answer is not so clear. This cpu deal is the upgrde path for 1511-300 socket, the end of the path that is.
But why aren't you including cost of a new socket 1200 mobo in your calculation? That adds at least $150 for the setup, no? Also, let's not forget TDP, 10700k being 125W vs 9900k 95W. So, probably a new HSF, $50.
And now 10700k is not $70 cheaper, but actually is $130 more expensive - for similar, slightly better performance. Is future upgrade path - read paying extra NOW so you don't have to buy new mobo for a few years - worth $130? That I don't know. Depends on how often you up your boxes, if you have use for older tech (motherinlaw pc, FS boxes, HTPCs, etc.). As socket 1200 tech matures, mobos will get cheaper/better, so there's that, too.
So building a new box - probably yes, gen 10 cpu, beefier hsf and 1200 mobo.
But if you already have socket 1151(300) box and want to up cpu - the answer is not so clear. This cpu deal is the upgrde path for 1511-300 socket, the end of the path that is.
Power consumption is relevant sure, if that matters to you.
Sizing dimension on 10th gen for HSF is the same as any 11XX cooler so if upgrading anything you have now will work
10th gen runs about the same or cooler than 9th gen despite the TDP due to it having a 10 core die so heat dissipates more efficiently
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade to a 9900k for $480 for something that's all around worse with no future vs a 10700k for $410 (it's in stock at BB and was in stock at newegg for the previous 4 days and goes back in stock all the time). Even with a new $150 motherboard thrown in you'd be spending $80 more for a better chip right now and a socket with future support for the next intel CPU's with support for PCIE 4.0, etc.
building a new computer it's actually better and cheaper (obvious choice)
upgrading existing it's going to run you maybe $80-100 more, simply because you need to get a new motherboard (sell your old one ?? turn existing cpu/mobo in to a htcp or something??)
Depending on what you have right now I'm not even saying to run out an buy a 10700k as it's not any sort of huge upgrade. If you want to stick with Intel just get the 10th gen. If not just get a Ryzen anyways. Don't waste your money on a 9900k.
Power consumption is relevant sure, if that matters to you.
Sizing dimension on 10th gen for HSF is the same as any 11XX cooler so if upgrading anything you have now will work
10th gen runs about the same or cooler than 9th gen despite the TDP due to it having a 10 core die so heat dissipates more efficiently
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade to a 9900k for $480 for something that's all around worse with no future vs a 10700k for $410 (it's in stock at BB and was in stock at newegg for the previous 4 days and goes back in stock all the time). Even with a new $150 motherboard thrown in you'd be spending $80 more for a better chip right now and a socket with future support for the next intel CPU's with support for PCIE 4.0, etc.
building a new computer it's actually better and cheaper (obvious choice)
upgrading existing it's going to run you maybe $80-100 more, simply because you need to get a new motherboard (sell your old one ?? turn existing cpu/mobo in to a htcp or something??)
Depending on what you have right now I'm not even saying to run out an buy a 10700k as it's not any sort of huge upgrade. If you want to stick with Intel just get the 10th gen. If not just get a Ryzen anyways. Don't waste your money on a 9900k
Speaking of power consumption, PSU upgrade might become necessary for gen10 cpu, too. At full load i9-9900k pulls 169W vs i7-10700k 207W, a 23% increase. And i9-10900K gobbles 254W, about 50% more!
And speaking of future proofing, Intel's 10nm Alder Lake is supposed to be introduced in August. Servers and laptops first, of course, with desktops' chip following. How many years of life does it give to 14nm 1200 socket? Two? Three? Oh, and there's also 7nm rumored to be introduced in 2021 with complete portfolio by 2022. Even considering cascading effect covid-19 had on manufacturing processes, these dates might be moved forward 6 months or so, it still hardly gives 1200 enough time to be called future proofed, rather the opposite, LGA1700 will promptly kill it by 2021.
It might be smart to skip 1200 all together and sit it out on i9-9900k until new architecture comes out. I'm planning to do just that.
This deal is back on again. Picked one up at Micro Center 2 weeks ago @ $459. Came back to buy some parts a couple of days ago, and noticed it was $429. They price adjusted for me, and credited me back $32.
I currently am running on an i7-4900k with 24gb ram. Overall, this machine is excellent STILL.
I don't game much, but I do a lot of software development and other multi-core intensive work. I've been looking a lot at the 3900x as the next upgrade.
this price seems to be pretty good. At this price, is it worth the upgrade? it seems that the single core performance isn't that much better, but multi-core performance is significantly higher.
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$70 cheaper
Newer
Slightly better performance
Future upgrade path on new intel socket
There's absolutely no reason to get a 9900k for anything more than like $350
$70 cheaper
Newer
Slightly better performance
Future upgrade path on new intel socket
There's absolutely no reason to get a 9900k for anything more than like $350
And now 10700k is not $70 cheaper, but actually is $130 more expensive - for similar, slightly better performance. Is future upgrade path - read paying extra NOW so you don't have to buy new mobo for a few years - worth $130? That I don't know. Depends on how often you up your boxes, if you have use for older tech (motherinlaw pc, FS boxes, HTPCs, etc.). As socket 1200 tech matures, mobos will get cheaper/better, so there's that, too.
So building a new box - probably yes, gen 10 cpu, beefier hsf and 1200 mobo.
But if you already have socket 1151(300) box and want to up cpu - the answer is not so clear. This cpu deal is the upgrde path for 1511-300 socket, the end of the path that is.
And now 10700k is not $70 cheaper, but actually is $130 more expensive - for similar, slightly better performance. Is future upgrade path - read paying extra NOW so you don't have to buy new mobo for a few years - worth $130? That I don't know. Depends on how often you up your boxes, if you have use for older tech (motherinlaw pc, FS boxes, HTPCs, etc.). As socket 1200 tech matures, mobos will get cheaper/better, so there's that, too.
So building a new box - probably yes, gen 10 cpu, beefier hsf and 1200 mobo.
But if you already have socket 1151(300) box and want to up cpu - the answer is not so clear. This cpu deal is the upgrde path for 1511-300 socket, the end of the path that is.
- Power consumption is relevant sure, if that matters to you.
- Sizing dimension on 10th gen for HSF is the same as any 11XX cooler so if upgrading anything you have now will work
- 10th gen runs about the same or cooler than 9th gen despite the TDP due to it having a 10 core die so heat dissipates more efficiently
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade to a 9900k for $480 for something that's all around worse with no future vs a 10700k for $410 (it's in stock at BB and was in stock at newegg for the previous 4 days and goes back in stock all the time). Even with a new $150 motherboard thrown in you'd be spending $80 more for a better chip right now and a socket with future support for the next intel CPU's with support for PCIE 4.0, etc.Depending on what you have right now I'm not even saying to run out an buy a 10700k as it's not any sort of huge upgrade. If you want to stick with Intel just get the 10th gen. If not just get a Ryzen anyways. Don't waste your money on a 9900k.
- Power consumption is relevant sure, if that matters to you.
- Sizing dimension on 10th gen for HSF is the same as any 11XX cooler so if upgrading anything you have now will work
- 10th gen runs about the same or cooler than 9th gen despite the TDP due to it having a 10 core die so heat dissipates more efficiently
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade to a 9900k for $480 for something that's all around worse with no future vs a 10700k for $410 (it's in stock at BB and was in stock at newegg for the previous 4 days and goes back in stock all the time). Even with a new $150 motherboard thrown in you'd be spending $80 more for a better chip right now and a socket with future support for the next intel CPU's with support for PCIE 4.0, etc.Depending on what you have right now I'm not even saying to run out an buy a 10700k as it's not any sort of huge upgrade. If you want to stick with Intel just get the 10th gen. If not just get a Ryzen anyways. Don't waste your money on a 9900k
Speaking of power consumption, PSU upgrade might become necessary for gen10 cpu, too. At full load i9-9900k pulls 169W vs i7-10700k 207W, a 23% increase. And i9-10900K gobbles 254W, about 50% more!
And speaking of future proofing, Intel's 10nm Alder Lake is supposed to be introduced in August. Servers and laptops first, of course, with desktops' chip following. How many years of life does it give to 14nm 1200 socket? Two? Three? Oh, and there's also 7nm rumored to be introduced in 2021 with complete portfolio by 2022. Even considering cascading effect covid-19 had on manufacturing processes, these dates might be moved forward 6 months or so, it still hardly gives 1200 enough time to be called future proofed, rather the opposite, LGA1700 will promptly kill it by 2021.
It might be smart to skip 1200 all together and sit it out on i9-9900k until new architecture comes out. I'm planning to do just that.
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$400 Intel Core i9-9900 Coffee Lake 3.1GHz Eight-Core LGA 1151 Boxed Processor
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I don't game much, but I do a lot of software development and other multi-core intensive work. I've been looking a lot at the 3900x as the next upgrade.
this price seems to be pretty good. At this price, is it worth the upgrade? it seems that the single core performance isn't that much better, but multi-core performance is significantly higher.