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Hey guys don't want to burst your bubble, however, what you are talking about is not a filtration test, but one that has been propagated by social media. You have sadly been misinformed. The only actual liquid barrier test that is performed on respirator masks is for a small classification known as Surgical N95's, which are considered medical devices by the FDA. Also, liquid barrier protection is rated by ASTM and not NIOSH. Your standard N95 from 3m or Honeywell is not designed for liquid barrier protection and the ability of it to hold water has zero impact on filtration. I emailed Powecom after seeing some of these posts just to be sure and recieved the following back:
IT IS NOT scientific to test qualified KN95 masks by pouring water into them. The dripping test is just a rumor. Firstly, water will destroy the protection ability of the melt blown filtering layer, that means: Water will destroy the effectiveness of the face mask; Secondly, too much water has weight (universal force[Laugh]) , so too much water will drip. Also, : The first layer of nonwoven material can let O2 (= oxygen ) pass through the face mask. That is why, the 1st Layer of face mask cannot 100% block water, especially when there is too much (for example, a cup of Water , too much water !!) pour in the face mask. This is not a scientific test and should not be used. Below are links from actual testing reports from the NPPTL that may be helpful Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd.KN95GB262699.2898.962020-211.1pdf icon [cdc.gov] Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd.KN95GB262699.5698.182020-303.1pdf icon [cdc.gov] Just want to make sure you guys have all the information. N95's are not for liquid barrier protection and neither are KN95's. The only liquid barrier protection masks are real ASTM surgical masks and Surgical N95's, which right now should be reserved ONLY for healthcare professionals. |
Statement for the Medical Device Respirator recalls in Canada
Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd hereby declare that the following two importers are not our purchasers.We have not found any information about the relevant companies in the sales records. Our company has an export license. All exports in our company's name are genuine.
There are many fake products on the market. The products that fail to pass the inspection in Canada are not exported by our company. Obviously these are fake.
Our main task in February, March and April is to provide the Chinese government with a large number of high-quality and qualified masks.We've been on the EUA list since April 3 . In fact ,CDC has always tested the quality of all respirators,in order to ensure that all the respirators imported to the United States are safe and up to standard. The following four test reports were issued by NPPTL and can be read on CDC website: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/R...SULTS.HTML
Government of Canada has issued a RECALL on these products.
Health Canada has determined that certain respirators that do not meet performance standards may pose a health and safety risk to users when used in a setting that requires 95% filtration (such as a health care settings).
https://healthycanadian
Useful links regarding mask reuse and cleaning:
USA today has a good simple article about mask cleaning, including N95 (same as KN95):
https://www.usatoday.co
Official recommendation from CDC :
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/...xtuse.html
There's a dedicated website about disinfecting N95, contributed by renown researchers and professionals:
https://www.n95decon.or
https://www.n95decon.or
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The wording depicts two layers of polypropylene instead of the carbon layer.
here is more image i found.
btw, could you send me the name of the seller on JD so I can take a look?
recently on JD, i don't see much Powecom KN95 for sale. I am guess they are all selling to oversea higher price market.
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From its online store in Jing Dong. Apparently a China version with 4 Layers:
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Did you get shipment info from Bonafide? I didn't hear anything yet.
I would still buy the BYD 20 bucks/ 50 masks or this Powecom KN95 till we have 3M, SAS, Honeywell, Kimberly Clark supply.
Suggestion: anyone can do these tests yourself:
waterproof testing the outer non-woven layer,
candle-blow test for leakage,
burning of the melt-blown/ static testing the polypropylene layer
and the laser pointer test if there are any hole for the polypropylene layer.
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See the side by side Chinese vs English versions:
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http://www.powecom.com/eng_news.html
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The wording depicts two layers of polypropylene instead of the carbon layer.
here is more image i found.
btw, could you send me the name of the seller on JD so I can take a look?
recently on JD, i don't see much Powecom KN95 for sale. I am guess they are all selling to oversea higher price market.
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https://i-item.jd.com/69537103682.htm
Thanks for your hard working! We as consumer deserve the truth.
http://www.powecom.com/eng_news.html
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The brand is BYD, a major car manufacturer in China.
As of today, BYD are still trying to meet the quality standard (whatever that is) for the state of California N95 order that worth hundreds of million of dollar. (the deal is not yet through)
https://i-item.jd.com/69537103682.htm
thanks for your hard working! We as consumer deserve the truth.
i have collected different version of their products from diff period of time since Feb/ March inadvertently with the exception of recent export / English version.
other brands also has 4 layers instead of 5 layers and their filtration rate are above 98/99%.
But if Powecom changed their 5 layer design to 4, Im going to call it out as a precaution so everyone can judge for themselves.
Still, if it is from a legit source, I'd still buy it till 3m, Honeywell, SAS, Kimberly-Clark are available again.
i have collected different version of their products from diff period of time since Feb/ March inadvertently with the exception of recent export / English version.
other brands also has 4 layers instead of 5 layers and their filtration rate are above 98/99%.
But if Powecom changed their 5 layer design to 4, Im going to call it out as a precaution so everyone can judge for themselves.
Still, if it is from a legit source, I'd still buy it till 3m, Honeywell, SAS, Kimberly-Clark are available again.
I don't buy into those 5-ply marketing gimmick. My old and trustworthy 3M KN95 has only 3 layers, but you can see how crazily thick the middle meltblow it has:
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Again, if nowadays we can freely buy 3M/Honeywell masks, even it's KN95 standard, we won't consider those imported KN95s.
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Guess we can only hope to get 4 layers? I don't like this practice. .
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