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Powecom KN95 masks (on FDA apprv. list as of 06/17) from Manufacturer Authorized US Distributor $18.50/10pcs

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21.99 for 10 pcs and 14.99 for 5.

Headbands are now $29/10. Also, coupon code SAVE5 take 5% off either headbands or earloops.

$18.89 /10pcs Free shipping
$54 /30pcs ($1.8 per mask) Free shipping


The price is raised to $29/10pcs, maybe due to SD effect and/or use of free shipping code

----- old post -----

Just read a news release when I was trying to find some product info:

June 16th, 2020

Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd appoints www.bonafidemasks.com , a division of Ball Chain Mfg. Co., Inc. as the new premier distributor for our FDA Authorized KN95 mask products in the USA.

News link:
http://powecom.com/eng_news_08.html

Shopping link:
https://bonafidemasks.com/Powecom-kn-95/

FDA Appendix A: Authorized Imported, Non-NIOSH Approved Respirators Manufactured in China (Updated: June 17, 2020) [fda.gov]

The unit price isn't cheap: $2.4 each and shipping fee is kind of high: around $14 per order via UPS ground, although you can order more to cut down both unit price and shipping cost per unit.

However, this may be the first time we know we can get a quality KN95 on FDA authorization list from a trustful vendor which is endorsed by manufacturer.


Disclaimer: I am not associated with Powecom or its distributors. I am providing the aforementioned and forthcoming information based on online research, in order to help people who may need quality masks during current pandemic. I am not responsible for the accuracy of information and quality of Powecome's product. Please make purchase decision based on your own situation.
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Update:
21.99 for 10 pcs and 14.99 for 5.

Headbands are now $29/10. Also, coupon code SAVE5 take 5% off either headbands or earloops.

$18.89 /10pcs Free shipping
$54 /30pcs ($1.8 per mask) Free shipping


The price is raised to $29/10pcs, maybe due to SD effect and/or use of free shipping code

----- old post -----

Just read a news release when I was trying to find some product info:

June 16th, 2020

Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd appoints www.bonafidemasks.com , a division of Ball Chain Mfg. Co., Inc. as the new premier distributor for our FDA Authorized KN95 mask products in the USA.

News link:
http://powecom.com/eng_news_08.html

Shopping link:
https://bonafidemasks.com/Powecom-kn-95/

FDA Appendix A: Authorized Imported, Non-NIOSH Approved Respirators Manufactured in China (Updated: June 17, 2020) [fda.gov]

The unit price isn't cheap: $2.4 each and shipping fee is kind of high: around $14 per order via UPS ground, although you can order more to cut down both unit price and shipping cost per unit.

However, this may be the first time we know we can get a quality KN95 on FDA authorization list from a trustful vendor which is endorsed by manufacturer.


Disclaimer: I am not associated with Powecom or its distributors. I am providing the aforementioned and forthcoming information based on online research, in order to help people who may need quality masks during current pandemic. I am not responsible for the accuracy of information and quality of Powecome's product. Please make purchase decision based on your own situation.

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Jun 25, 2020 8:51 PM
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Quote from PossumLodge View quoted comment :
What is wrong with you?

Any mask will stop the exhalation of droplets. But ear loop styles are not as secure as head band styles in preventing inhalation.
I mean many so called Makrite N95 in market are earloops. Apparently they are fake.
Jun 25, 2020 8:57 PM
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Surly3Jun 25, 2020 8:57 PM
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Quote from PossumLodge View quoted comment :
What is wrong with you?

Any mask will stop the exhalation of droplets. But ear loop styles are not as secure as head band styles in preventing inhalation.
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I'm curious about how the regular cloth masks or any masks work. It has been shown that they can block the Exhalation droplets from spreading and protect others. But if the droplets carrying the virus in the air are roughly the same size then why can the same cloth mask that blocks exhalation droplets not block incoming droplets if the cloth material is the same inside & out? Does it just have to do with limiting the distance the Exhalation droplets travel that reduces the risk of others getting infected as opposed to actual Exhalation filtering? If so, I'm still confused as to how it limits the distance if the droplets go right through upon Exhalation (do they?). It seems the inhalation droplets carrying the virus would go right through a regular mask without any filtering material. Thanks to anyone that responds.
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Quote from Surly3 View quoted comment :
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I'm curious about how the regular cloth masks or any masks work. It has been shown that they can block the Exhalation droplets from spreading and protect others. But if the droplets carrying the virus in the air are roughly the same size then why can the same cloth mask that blocks exhalation droplets not block incoming droplets if the cloth material is the same inside & out? Does it just have to do with limiting the distance the Exhalation droplets travel that reduces the risk of others getting infected as opposed to actual Exhalation filtering? If so, I'm still confused as to how it limits the distance if the droplets go right through upon Exhalation (do they?). It seems the inhalation droplets carrying the virus would go right through a regular mask without any filtering material. Thanks to anyone that responds.
Cloth masks do not solidly provide inhalation protection.

There are a myriad of scientific videos showing them blocking emissions. Google them.

Now, if all parties wear cloth masks, the transmission either way approaches nil. America could suffer tens of thousands fewer deaths if people did this.
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These are not the ones with ear loops but rather the one that wrap around the head
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Makrite SEKURA-321 TC-84A-6660 NIOSH Approved Disposable N95 Respirator Face Masks - 20 Pack
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Quote from jezzdogg View quoted comment :
These are not the ones with ear loops but rather the one that wrap around the head
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Makrite SEKURA-321 TC-84A-6660 NIOSH Approved Disposable N95 Respirator Face Masks - 20 Pack
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What site is this on?
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Quote from PossumLodge View quoted comment :
Cloth masks do not solidly provide inhalation protection.

There are a myriad of scientific videos showing them blocking emissions. Google them.

Now, if all parties wear cloth masks, the transmission either way approaches nil. America could suffer tens of thousands fewer deaths if people did this.
Agreed. I just don't follow how the same material can prevent Exhalation emissions but not the same droplets from being inhaled.
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Quote from Surly3 View quoted comment :
Agreed. I just don't follow how the same material can prevent Exhalation emissions but not the same droplets from being inhaled.
They are micro droplets that remain suspended in the air for a long time when inside buildings. The same way a church choir got infected by people singing.

The earlier info about big droplets shooting straight at you being the only carrier is not accurate. As time goes on, the medical community is learning more.

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ElatedCrow4658Jun 25, 2020 10:58 PM
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FYI
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...sults.html

Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd.
shows up under both sections
Good: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
Bad: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
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Quote from ElatedCrow4658 View quoted comment :
FYI
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...sults.html

Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd.
shows up under both sections
Good: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
Bad: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
There are actually four reports but why do you feel the 2nd one you posted is bad? It still tested around 93-95% around that of a KF94 or similar.
Last edited by Surly3 June 25, 2020 at 04:39 PM.
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Quote from ys115 View quoted comment :
I mean many so called Makrite N95 in market are earloops. Apparently they are fake.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/u...tResp.html
Counterfeit Respirators / Misrepresentation of NIOSH-Approval


Signs that a respirator may be counterfeit:
  • No markings at all on the filtering facepiece respirator
  • No approval (TC) number on filtering facepiece respirator or headband
  • No NIOSH markings
  • NIOSH spelled incorrectly
  • Presence of decorative fabric or other decorative add-ons (e.g., sequins)
  • Claims for the of approval for children (NIOSH does not approve any type of respiratory protection for children)
  • Filtering facepiece respirator has ear loops instead of headbands
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Quote from Surly3 View quoted comment :
There are actually four reports but why do you feel the 2nd one you posted is bad? It still tested around 93-95% around that of a KF94 or similar.
Because it's being promoted as a KN95, which must meet published standards. They don't.
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Quote from MozartA View quoted comment :
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/u...tResp.html
Counterfeit Respirators / Misrepresentation of NIOSH-Approval


Signs that a respirator may be counterfeit:
  • No markings at all on the filtering facepiece respirator
  • No approval (TC) number on filtering facepiece respirator or headband
  • No NIOSH markings
  • NIOSH spelled incorrectly
  • Presence of decorative fabric or other decorative add-ons (e.g., sequins)
  • Claims for the of approval for children (NIOSH does not approve any type of respiratory protection for children)
  • Filtering facepiece respirator has ear loops instead of headbands
In other words, buy from a reputable source. 3M is playing whack-a-mole with counterfeits and grey market:
https://www.massdevice.com/3m-sue...spirators/
Last edited by PossumLodge June 25, 2020 at 05:51 PM.
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smn4321Jun 26, 2020 12:51 AM
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not sure if these are impacted, but there's apparently a recall of products here: https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/re...7a-eng.php


on the other hand, there are reddit threads in support of this seller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Masks4Al...uthorized/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Masks4Al...urce=share
Last edited by smn4321 June 26, 2020 at 10:00 AM.
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HapShaughnessyJun 26, 2020 12:58 AM
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Stick a fork in this "deal":

Government of Canada has issued a RECALL on these products.
Health Canada has determined that certain respirators that do not meet performance standards may pose a health and safety risk to users when used in a setting that requires 95% filtration (such as a health care settings).
https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/re...7a-eng.php

I'm Canadian, so have been checking this list periodically but not recently. These were added to the list at the end of May for FAILING standards.

Thanks to masterstanf2k for the heads-up.
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Quote from ElatedCrow4658 View quoted comment :
FYI
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...sults.html

Guangzhou Powecom Labor Insurance Supplies Co., Ltd.
shows up under both sections
Good: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
Bad: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/r...ed-508.pdf
I just realized the one you listed as bad is actually on the non approved/counterfeit list. My bad.

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