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Gammix S5 is a budget SSD.
For $115, rather go with WD blue or Crucial MX500. (high end SSD)

This would be a deal if sold for $90.
Except this drive is NVME with around 4x faster read and write speeds of the MX500, which is a SATA drive. The WD Blue isn't a high end drive either, that crown goes to their BLACK line. The Blue is only slightly faster than the Gammix S5, and really only qualifies as a budget mid-range. $115 with a $5 gift card is a pretty decent deal considering this is a TLC drive and competing QLC drives like the Intel 660p currently cost almost exactly the same.
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Whats the difference between this and the S11?
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Gammix S5 is a budget SSD.
For $115, rather go with WD blue or Crucial MX500. (high end SSD)

This would be a deal if sold for $90.
Dude what? The MX500 is SATA lmao. "high end" he says
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Quick note that this is mainly meant for desktop PC only as the heatsink will likely interfere in a laptop internal.
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I'm sure he is referring to this drive: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX...B077SQ8J1V. I swear people don't even take 1 second to google before they reply
Er... that's still a SATA interface. It says so right in the title. Don't confuse M.2 form factor vs NVMe interface.
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I'm sure he is referring to this drive: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX...B077SQ8J1V [amazon.com]. I swear people don't even take 1 second to google before they reply
Thats SATA.

Were you unaware they made SATA drives in M.2 format? Nice catch chief.
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Thats SATA.

Were you unaware they made SATA drives in M.2 format? Nice catch chief.
Gotta forgive him. People don't take 1 second to google before they reply
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I know MX500 is SATA. I simply tried to say that this Adata is a 'budget' tier drive.
Wouldn't use it for OS drive. For the price, one can easily get a 'high-end' tier drive.
Please see link below,
https://linustechtips.com/main/to...tier-list/ [linustechtips.com]


Tier D (Budget)
Adata - SX6000 Pro* (Realtek RTS5763DL), Gammix S5* (Realtek RTS5763DL), SX6000 Lite* (Realtek RTS5763DL)


Tier B (High-end)
Adata - SX8200 Pro (SMI SM2262EN), Gammix S11 Pro (SMI SM2262EN)
Addlink - S70 (Phison E12)
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Also MVNE(PCIE) vs SATA, theoretically huge, real difference is minimal.

User-Visible Performance Gains
Spoiler alert: they're pretty small. I benchmarked system restart time, cold boot time, and both a storage benchmark and a synthetic workload with PCMark. In every case, the speedup was between 3 and 5 percent.

https://www.extremetech.com/compu...sd-upgrade [extremetech.com]
Your tier list just puts Gen 4s at the top then everything else under them. It's a pointless apples to oranges comparison
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I know MX500 is SATA. I simply tried to say that this Adata is a 'budget' tier drive.
Wouldn't use it for OS drive. For the price, one can easily get a 'high-end' tier drive.
Please see link below,
https://linustechtips.com/main/to...tier-list/


Tier D (Budget)
Adata - SX6000 Pro* (Realtek RTS5763DL), Gammix S5* (Realtek RTS5763DL), SX6000 Lite* (Realtek RTS5763DL)


Tier B (High-end)
Adata - SX8200 Pro (SMI SM2262EN), Gammix S11 Pro (SMI SM2262EN)
Addlink - S70 (Phison E12)
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Also MVNE(PCIE) vs SATA, theoretically huge, real difference is minimal.

User-Visible Performance Gains
Spoiler alert: they're pretty small. I benchmarked system restart time, cold boot time, and both a storage benchmark and a synthetic workload with PCMark. In every case, the speedup was between 3 and 5 percent.

https://www.extremetech.com/compu...sd-upgrade
List from Newmaxx is better.
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btw it's NVMe, or folks will think you're just regurgitating stuff you've read elsewhere shake head

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I know MX500 is SATA.
Also MVNE(PCIE) vs SATA, theoretically huge, real difference is minimal.
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I know MX500 is SATA. I simply tried to say that this Adata is a 'budget' tier drive.
Wouldn't use it for OS drive. For the price, one can easily get a 'high-end' tier drive.
Please see link below,
https://linustechtips.com/main/to...tier-list/ [linustechtips.com]

[wall of text]

Also MVNE(PCIE) vs SATA, theoretically huge, real difference is minimal.

User-Visible Performance Gains
Spoiler alert: they're pretty small. I benchmarked system restart time, cold boot time, and both a storage benchmark and a synthetic workload with PCMark. In every case, the speedup was between 3 and 5 percent.

https://www.extremetech.com/compu...sd-upgrade [extremetech.com]
Every use case is different. Performance gains are going to vary wildly based on how much data needs to be written/read from a hard drive (amongst other things, for rather obvious example including whether that data is in large blocks) and it's silly to just assume that these lists are valid for everyone.

Take for example this whole tier thing on LTT - he places the CS3030 on the same tier as the SN750, despite the PNY drive having >2.5x write cycle durability at not insignificant expense of write speed (at 500gb, speed levels out a bit at higher capacities). Unless you're using it for libraries that don't get written to (this is a real thing), this is going to matter. Likewise, different capacities of both the CS3030 and the SN750 have significantly different speeds and lifetimes.

You should try and do more research beyond a "but Linus said" level before telling people what's what when it comes to expensive buying choices.
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