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expiredLawdog posted Oct 25, 2020 04:30 PM
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expiredLawdog posted Oct 25, 2020 04:30 PM
Denon AVR-X3600H 9.2-Channel Home theater Receiver
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Multi-channel receivers all have a lot of configuration options and these two are no exception. People who are familiar with Denon settings will likely find the 3600H easier to set up. No info on the Yamaha since it is all new.
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"For $1,100 the Denon X3600H comes with 11CH of processing to do a full 7.1.4 speaker system with the addition of a 2CH external amplifier. The only other receiver that offers this capability is the Onkyo TX-ZR830 which is being discontinued as we await announcement of the TX-ZR840 replacement model. The Denon is the only model in this price class that allows you to reassign unused amplifier channels so you can add a 2CH power amp to the front channels and run a full 7.1.4 or 11CH speaker surround system. Denon has dropped the gauntlet with this model having most of the feature set of it's more expensive brethren, the AVR-X4500H. The AVR-X4500H offers slightly more power (125wpc vs 105wpc), and Auro 3D processing but if those features aren't important to you, then the AVR-X3600H is your ticket. The AVR-X3600H truly offers best in class features at this price point. Impressive."
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I have to be missing the point somewhere so if someone could explain it to me summarized as easy as possible that would be great.
The TSR-700 is excellent, especially for the money. The only difference between the two that mattered to me was channels (Atmos speakers in the ceiling), and software audio corrections.
The extra channels for the Atmos is kind of nice but not the reason I kept the x3700h and returned the TSR-700. The Audyssey XT32 room correction and tuning software in the Denon is just excellent. It does the basic things like calculate distance to speakers, adjust all the volumes to be blended correctly, just like the Yamaha, but in addition it actually reads the frequency responses of each speaker in your room setup, and then applies EQ to bring those guys back to reference or flat responses.
For example I have Klipsch speakers, and they have kind of a loud base and a loud high frequency, and low mid ranges. Running the YPAO on the Yamaha and then listening to them and then running the Audyssey on the Denon and listening to the same speakers was night and day.
My speakers sounded harsh in the high tones, and boomy in the lows and it was almost painful to watch movies on the Yamaha. Switching over to Denon and everything was blended properly and it felt mellow and smooth and correct.
Looking into the room EQ that was applied I can see that the Denon tapers off my Klipsch speakers by up to 3 DB for frequencies between 10khz and 20khz. Additionally it was taking between 7 and 8 DB off for 80 hz to 150 hz. It then boosted my mids from about 200 hz to 10 khz between 1 and 3 DB depending on the range.
The response is speakers that sound really nice, even accounting for my awkward shaped listening room.
You can totally live without this and have a fantastic home theater setup with the $400 TSR-700, but for people who like just being a little "extra" and throwing an additional $500 at your receiver isn't a big deal for your finances, they might enjoy the extra software algorithms packaged into the x3700h.
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The TSR-700 is excellent, especially for the money. The only difference between the two that mattered to me was channels (Atmos speakers in the ceiling), and software audio corrections.
The extra channels for the Atmos is kind of nice but not the reason I kept the x3700h and returned the TSR-700. The Audyssey XT32 room correction and tuning software in the Denon is just excellent. It does the basic things like calculate distance to speakers, adjust all the volumes to be blended correctly, just like the Yamaha, but in addition it actually reads the frequency responses of each speaker in your room setup, and then applies EQ to bring those guys back to reference or flat responses.
For example I have Klipsch speakers, and they have kind of a loud base and a loud high frequency, and low mid ranges. Running the YPAO on the Yamaha and then listening to them and then running the Audyssey on the Denon and listening to the same speakers was night and day.
My speakers sounded harsh in the high tones, and boomy in the lows and it was almost painful to watch movies on the Yamaha. Switching over to Denon and everything was blended properly and it felt mellow and smooth and correct.
Looking into the room EQ that was applied I can see that the Denon tapers off my Klipsch speakers by up to 3 DB for frequencies between 10khz and 20khz. Additionally it was taking between 7 and 8 DB off for 80 hz to 150 hz. It then boosted my mids from about 200 hz to 10 khz between 1 and 3 DB depending on the range.
The response is speakers that sound really nice, even accounting for my awkward shaped listening room.
You can totally live without this and have a fantastic home theater setup with the $400 TSR-700, but for people who like just being a little "extra" and throwing an additional $500 at your receiver isn't a big deal for your finances, they might enjoy the extra software algorithms packaged into the x3700h.
"For $1,100 the Denon X3600H comes with 11CH of processing to do a full 7.1.4 speaker system with the addition of a 2CH external amplifier. The only other receiver that offers this capability is the Onkyo TX-ZR830 which is being discontinued as we await announcement of the TX-ZR840 replacement model. The Denon is the only model in this price class that allows you to reassign unused amplifier channels so you can add a 2CH power amp to the front channels and run a full 7.1.4 or 11CH speaker surround system. Denon has dropped the gauntlet with this model having most of the feature set of it's more expensive brethren, the AVR-X4500H. The AVR-X4500H offers slightly more power (125wpc vs 105wpc), and Auro 3D processing but if those features aren't important to you, then the AVR-X3600H is your ticket. The AVR-X3600H truly offers best in class features at this price point. Impressive."
Sorry for my ignorance.. but is there a good number of movies with auro 3D audio?
Also, wondering if video source does not have atmos or auro 3D soundtrack, is nothing playing out of speakers that you dedicated to the "heights" channels on your receiver.
I'm coming from an older onkyo receiver 7.1 (no height speakers)...
In short, if you're at all demanding and doing anything north of 5.1 or plan to, XT32 is an eventuality in my mind.
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