My warning lights go off when you can't even find the item on the manufacturer's website. Probably a holiday special model just for Best Buy. They'll blow trough this sku and it'll never be seen again. Might not bode well for long-term firmware support.
I saw someone else ask and didn't see answer. If i buy this will I need to reconfigure every device currently using router, or will it happen automatically? Is there any reason I need to save settings from old router. Appreciate any assistance. Thanks
What device or client could actually use the 4 streams of this router? Wouldn't a router with 2 streams be practically just as fast as this one since no actual device can take advantage of 4 streams unless you are doing router to router mesh?
Is it possible to simultaneously stream to 2 devices at the same time by splitting the 4 streams into 2x? That's the only scenario I can see benefitting from a 4 stream router (besides router mesh).
PCE-AC88 adapter or a 2nd 4x4 router in bridge mode, granted the entire point of a larger MIMO radio config is general range increase regardless of the clients radio config. (typically 1x1 or 2x2).
2x2 can reach similar high speeds as a 4x4 router, but the speed over range is significant lower when you factor things walls and interference. This is the reason certain higher 4x4 MIMO routers are marketed for 2500-3000 feet opposed to 1500-1700 feet with 2x2 designs. The difference is significant In my personal environment.
8x8 radio configs (3500ft marketing) also exist for even further range and MU-MIMO or MU-OFDMA capability, granted one SU-MIMO device/client will take over an entire radio stream. The device has to be AX or MU-MIMO capable to run simultaneous streams without bottlenecks (depending on router design). One device in SU-MIMO nullifies this capability.
Question regarding this specific router compared to what i have going right now - i have the R8000 nighthawk. Its older now but still running stock FW and has been a real workhorse for our ~25 devices across about 3000 sqft. Is this a good upgrade or naa? Thanks for your wisdom!
Question regarding this specific router compared to what i have going right now - i have the R8000 nighthawk. Its older now but still running stock FW and has been a real workhorse for our ~25 devices across about 3000 sqft. Is this a good upgrade or naa? Thanks for your wisdom!
If your R8000 works and isnt giving issues, I wouldn't bother.
You could always test this and abuse the return policy if you don't like it, though.
PCE-AC88 adapter or a 2nd 4x4 router in bridge mode, granted the entire point of a larger MIMO radio config is general range increase regardless of the clients radio config. (typically 1x1 or 2x2).
2x2 can reach similar high speeds as a 4x4 router, but the speed over range is significant lower when you factor things walls and interference. This is the reason certain higher 4x4 MIMO routers are marketed for 2500-3000 feet opposed to 1500-1700 feet with 2x2 designs. The difference is significant In my personal environment.
8x8 radio configs (3500ft marketing) also exist for even further range and MU-MIMO or MU-OFDMA capability, granted one SU-MIMO device/client will take over an entire radio stream. The device has to be AX or MU-MIMO capable to run simultaneous streams without bottlenecks (depending on router design). One device in SU-MIMO nullifies this capability.
Thanks for the clarification. So MU-MIMO is really useless in the real world then given % of devices without MU-MIMO capabilities nullifying any benefits to devices with MU-MIMO.
I saw someone else ask and didn't see answer. If i buy this will I need to reconfigure every device currently using router, or will it happen automatically? Is there any reason I need to save settings from old router. Appreciate any assistance. Thanks
Just set and use the old name/ssid and password to the new router.
I have the Netgear RAX-50 rather than the RAX-48. My experience with the RAX-50 is I haven't had any problems, no dropped connections at all. For me, the wifi is very good, on both bands. It seems to me that when people have problems with routers, is after they've updated the firmware and don't reset the router to defaul settings. I just use the firmware that works well and don't update unless there's something in particular that I really want.
I use this router with Netgear cable modem CM600 and get great speeds.
Question regarding this specific router compared to what i have going right now - i have the R8000 nighthawk. Its older now but still running stock FW and has been a real workhorse for our ~25 devices across about 3000 sqft. Is this a good upgrade or naa? Thanks for your wisdom!
Personally I would keep the R8000. It's a good router and I don't think you'd see much difference, if any, unless you have wifi 6 clients. If you're having problems reaching all devices, you could try a wireless extender. I have a Netgear EX3700 that I use to extend signal to outdoors. Works pretty well.
Thanks for the clarification. So MU-MIMO is really useless in the real world then given % of devices without MU-MIMO capabilities nullifying any benefits to devices with MU-MIMO.
Yup. The only real world advantage to a bigger radio (4x4+) is general range improvements on multiple types of clients.. It doesn't really help that google, amazon, roku etc for example continue to pump on SU-MIMO AC devices due to cost and price points.
If there was a heavy exodus to AX clients (baked in support), 2x2 routers would also be a lot more appealing due to general SNR advantages of -7 to -9db from the AX standard of client and router. (Certain 4x4 AC wave 2 designs are still superior in range though, just depends).
Will also improve QAM selection at distance.. Granted 4x4 makes more sense all around relatively speaking. White papers on AX standard promote 8x8 radio config heavily due to all of the above. I'm a sure 6x6 radio will also be a valid config down the road once transitions happen.
I think this was the general ideology when it came to marketing but its been 2 years (AX88U launched OCT 2018) and most clients are still AC and SU-MIMO for newer IoT devices.
I'd recommend staying away from Netgear products, take it from someone who worked there. Asus and TP-Link are the industry leaders in Wi-Fi, read the reviews.
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No reviews though.
Some comparison:
TP-Link AX3000
Dual-Core CPU
2X2 (Tx/Rx) up to 2.4 Gbps on the 5GHz
2x2 (Tx/Rx) up to 574 Mbps on the 2.4GHz
VS
Netgear AX5200
Triple-core 1.5GHz processor
4x4 (Tx/Rx) up to 4.8Gbps on 5GHz 1024 QAM 20/40/80/160MHz
2x2 (Tx/Rx) up to 460Mbps 256 QAM 20/40MHz on 2.4GHz
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Is it possible to simultaneously stream to 2 devices at the same time by splitting the 4 streams into 2x? That's the only scenario I can see benefitting from a 4 stream router (besides router mesh).
2x2 can reach similar high speeds as a 4x4 router, but the speed over range is significant lower when you factor things walls and interference. This is the reason certain higher 4x4 MIMO routers are marketed for 2500-3000 feet opposed to 1500-1700 feet with 2x2 designs. The difference is significant In my personal environment.
8x8 radio configs (3500ft marketing) also exist for even further range and MU-MIMO or MU-OFDMA capability, granted one SU-MIMO device/client will take over an entire radio stream. The device has to be AX or MU-MIMO capable to run simultaneous streams without bottlenecks (depending on router design). One device in SU-MIMO nullifies this capability.
You could always test this and abuse the return policy if you don't like it, though.
2x2 can reach similar high speeds as a 4x4 router, but the speed over range is significant lower when you factor things walls and interference. This is the reason certain higher 4x4 MIMO routers are marketed for 2500-3000 feet opposed to 1500-1700 feet with 2x2 designs. The difference is significant In my personal environment.
8x8 radio configs (3500ft marketing) also exist for even further range and MU-MIMO or MU-OFDMA capability, granted one SU-MIMO device/client will take over an entire radio stream. The device has to be AX or MU-MIMO capable to run simultaneous streams without bottlenecks (depending on router design). One device in SU-MIMO nullifies this capability.
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I use this router with Netgear cable modem CM600 and get great speeds.
If there was a heavy exodus to AX clients (baked in support), 2x2 routers would also be a lot more appealing due to general SNR advantages of -7 to -9db from the AX standard of client and router. (Certain 4x4 AC wave 2 designs are still superior in range though, just depends).
Will also improve QAM selection at distance.. Granted 4x4 makes more sense all around relatively speaking. White papers on AX standard promote 8x8 radio config heavily due to all of the above. I'm a sure 6x6 radio will also be a valid config down the road once transitions happen.
I think this was the general ideology when it came to marketing but its been 2 years (AX88U launched OCT 2018) and most clients are still AC and SU-MIMO for newer IoT devices.
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