Best Buy has HP Pavilion 15.6" Gaming Laptop (15-ec1073dx, Shadow Black) on sale for $449.99. Select in-store pickup where available. Thanks delz4stelz
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- Screen is not IPS. https://files.bbystatic.com/nuqhH...5-ec1073dx
- 15.6-inch diagonal, FHD (1920 x 1080), micro-edge, anti-glare, 220
nits, 45% NTSC. Non touchscreen.
- Two ram slots, upgradable to 64GB
- USB-C has only data transfer function. No DisplayPort or charging function.
- 1x HDMI 2.0
Best Buy (BB) vs Walmart (WM) version comparizon:
- The WM version has an IPS screen (TN on BB version) with better viewing angles, and higher 250 nit brightness (220 nit on BB version).
- The WM version has a USB 3.1 Gen 2 with Power Delivery (PD) and Display Port (DP) support, which means you can have up to 3 displays (laptop screen + 1 via HDMI +1 via USB-C to HDMI). (BB version can only support 2 displays: laptop screen + 1 via HDMI).
- The WM version has a newer housing/exhaust/hinge design, with improved cooling to accommodate the.power consumption of the Intel i5 9300H CPU (2 large exhaust ports on either side of the hinge).
- The BB version has a newer, faster and more power efficient AMD Ryzen 5 4600H CPU, which means longer battery life when unplugged.
- The BB version comes with faster 3200Mhz RAM (WM version has 2666Mhz RAM).
- The BB version has a previous housing/exhaust/hinge design, since the AMD does not require the improved cooling of the newer design (one narrow exhaust port right on the hinge).
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Just chiming in on the picture quality of the BB version (The TN display panel):
If the laptop is parked on your desk most of the time, and will be using an external monitor as your primary display, the built-in screen functions well enough as a secondary display in a dual monitor set up. (throw your widgets, control panels, chat windows on the second screen)
the screen also functional enough if you need to bring the laptop with you on the go for short stretches.
If you plan on using the laptop as is MOST of the time AS IS, no external displays, and plan on moving it from place to place within your home, you'll probably you'll probably be a bit frustrated, constantly adjusting your head position/hinge to find the most ideal viewing angle. And if you're trying to show someone else what you're looking at, that's very problematic because you can't both share the same ideal spot!
In my opinion, TN screens are best used when you're in a stable, stationary environment (like a dark cave!) where your head will always be in roughly the same spot. They're frustrating if you're bringing it from place to place, with different seating heights, brightness levels and have to keep finding your ideal central position.
IPS display are generally good because they have very wide viewing angles and are probably the best when you have exposure to daylight - most commonly simply in a room with windows, or more extreme, in the outdoors! The biggest trade off they tend to emit some more light when the screen is black, so you lose a little contrast. Even a lower end, unrefined IPS display (like the Walmart Pavilion deal where they didn't really tune up the backlighting), the quality of the display should feel like night and day.
Another note regarding processor power:
While the Ryzen 4600h in the BB model is more powerful than the i5 9300h in the Walmart, most general use computer tasks usually only use 1 or 2 cores (think most things you'd run in a web browser, office apps)! Benchmarks using single or dual cores are pretty similar for both processors.
Ryzen will be notably faster for anything requiring 4 or more cores - think pro-level processor intensive tasks like rendering video/converting video formats, rendering pro audio, rendering 3D animation, compiling applications, hardcore data crunching. These are generally tasks that you hit start and wait a few minutes/hours/days to complete. The only realtime scenario I can think of is if you run any virtualization software where you're doing some processing in parallel with day to day tasks.
To put this into context (a little bit of Apples to oranges, but it still applies): I have an old 2008 iMac that functions surprisingly well using Final Cut Pro X. That's because most pro 3D/Video apps actually use a preview mode when you're manipulating your work to keep realtime calculations low - and only when you do your final rendering does the horsepower kick in. If I render a long movie with edits on the 2018 iMac, it may take an 30 minutes. A more modern Mac (let's say a MBP 2019) may only take 10 minutes.
In short for MOST users, MOST of the time... you probably won't realize any speed differences between the 2 processors. (similarly, a normal user you may not notice much of a difference between the i3 and i5 parallels of the same gen/level)
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I see lot of people nit-picking on the screen brightness or the processing power etc. Here are my thoughts on that:
A. For $400 range laptops all the specs mentioned on either this thread, Lenovo one or the walmart HP deal are pretty good for 90% of the users (web surfing, streaming videos, office excel warriors, students, occasional/frugal/cheap gamers etc)
B. Those who are having issues with screen probably have a valid reason to complain, in that case they should really wait for a steal at this price, otherwise you can't get everything at this price range.
C. Those who really need a mobile desktop replacement, I would highly recommend buying a decent monitor (slickdeals had a few deals with more to follow am sure) and hooking up your laptop to it. This will make a world of difference.
D. Processing power, again valid point for power users/gamers/multi-taskers, but not applicable for 90% of the cases
I am a software developer so I have the Lenovo equivalent hooked up to a monitor and i am quite happy with the setup (I have ordered the lenovo laptop as an upgrade).
Slickdeals brings in these amazing people who have done a ton of research on every core of every version of Intel/AMD chipsets as well as Graphics cards,
and after reading their conclusions you start thinking like them instead of what is applicable to you. Just read everything but understand that your needs are yours and if you like something then go for it.
At this price range, mistakes won't hurt that bad!
Happy shopping this season to all!
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Ppl who advise other ppl to buy something with the intention of returning it later shouldn't be allowed to post here. I mean screw the ethics right? It's 2020 the world is going to end anyway
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Hmmm... Great deal. Might hold onto the Lenovo I ordered today(once I get it) and try to get this. If I can get this, I'll return the Lenovo.
Definitely prefer this Ryzen over 9th gen i5.
Same situation here. Ordered the lenovo today, and if i can get this hp, i'll return the lenovo, is there any kind of fee for the return??, mine is suppose to be shipped on nov 9.
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If the laptop is parked on your desk most of the time, and will be using an external monitor as your primary display, the built-in screen functions well enough as a secondary display in a dual monitor set up. (throw your widgets, control panels, chat windows on the second screen)
the screen also functional enough if you need to bring the laptop with you on the go for short stretches.
If you plan on using the laptop as is MOST of the time AS IS, no external displays, and plan on moving it from place to place within your home, you'll probably you'll probably be a bit frustrated, constantly adjusting your head position/hinge to find the most ideal viewing angle. And if you're trying to show someone else what you're looking at, that's very problematic because you can't both share the same ideal spot!
In my opinion, TN screens are best used when you're in a stable, stationary environment (like a dark cave!) where your head will always be in roughly the same spot. They're frustrating if you're bringing it from place to place, with different seating heights, brightness levels and have to keep finding your ideal central position.
IPS display are generally good because they have very wide viewing angles and are probably the best when you have exposure to daylight - most commonly simply in a room with windows, or more extreme, in the outdoors! The biggest trade off they tend to emit some more light when the screen is black, so you lose a little contrast. Even a lower end, unrefined IPS display (like the Walmart Pavilion deal where they didn't really tune up the backlighting), the quality of the display should feel like night and day.
Another note regarding processor power:
While the Ryzen 4600h in the BB model is more powerful than the i5 9300h in the Walmart, most general use computer tasks usually only use 1 or 2 cores (think most things you'd run in a web browser, office apps)! Benchmarks using single or dual cores are pretty similar for both processors.
Ryzen will be notably faster for anything requiring 4 or more cores - think pro-level processor intensive tasks like rendering video/converting video formats, rendering pro audio, rendering 3D animation, compiling applications, hardcore data crunching. These are generally tasks that you hit start and wait a few minutes/hours/days to complete. The only realtime scenario I can think of is if you run any virtualization software where you're doing some processing in parallel with day to day tasks.
To put this into context (a little bit of Apples to oranges, but it still applies): I have an old 2008 iMac that functions surprisingly well using Final Cut Pro X. That's because most pro 3D/Video apps actually use a preview mode when you're manipulating your work to keep realtime calculations low - and only when you do your final rendering does the horsepower kick in. If I render a long movie with edits on the 2018 iMac, it may take an 30 minutes. A more modern Mac (let's say a MBP 2019) may only take 10 minutes.
In short for MOST users, MOST of the time... you probably won't realize any speed differences between the 2 processors. (similarly, a normal user you may not notice much of a difference between the i3 and i5 parallels of the same gen/level)
A. For $400 range laptops all the specs mentioned on either this thread, Lenovo one or the walmart HP deal are pretty good for 90% of the users (web surfing, streaming videos, office excel warriors, students, occasional/frugal/cheap gamers etc)
B. Those who are having issues with screen probably have a valid reason to complain, in that case they should really wait for a steal at this price, otherwise you can't get everything at this price range.
C. Those who really need a mobile desktop replacement, I would highly recommend buying a decent monitor (slickdeals had a few deals with more to follow am sure) and hooking up your laptop to it. This will make a world of difference.
D. Processing power, again valid point for power users/gamers/multi-taskers, but not applicable for 90% of the cases
I am a software developer so I have the Lenovo equivalent hooked up to a monitor and i am quite happy with the setup (I have ordered the lenovo laptop as an upgrade).
Slickdeals brings in these amazing people who have done a ton of research on every core of every version of Intel/AMD chipsets as well as Graphics cards,
and after reading their conclusions you start thinking like them instead of what is applicable to you. Just read everything but understand that your needs are yours and if you like something then go for it.
At this price range, mistakes won't hurt that bad!
Happy shopping this season to all!
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Definitely prefer this Ryzen over 9th gen i5.
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Definitely prefer this Ryzen over 9th gen i5.