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Craftsman 450-Piece Mechanic's Tool Set - $219.99

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ruouttaurmind
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227 pieces of filler (175 screwdriver bits, 40 hex keys, 12 nut drivers).
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crazycreations
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Mostly fillers
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If all you want is wrenches and sockets, then buy wrench sets and socket sets instead of complaining that large general use tool kits include other general use tools.

You are never going to get exactly what you need and nothing that you don't in a larger mechanic's kit, but this one seems pretty complete, is all contained in a relatively compact box, and is cheaper than buying the pieces individually.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
If all you want is wrenches and sockets, then buy wrench sets and socket sets instead of complaining that large general use tool kits include other general use tools.

You are never going to get exactly what you need and nothing that you don't in a larger mechanic's kit, but this one seems pretty complete, is all contained in a relatively compact box, and is cheaper than buying the pieces individually.
I hear you, and I do not disagree. But it's about the overall value. This is slickdeals after all.

In a $100 set, a bit of filler is one thing. Most $100 sets have their fair share. But in a $237 set with over 50% filler, the value is significantly diminished. At this price point you have many options. The overall value of this set is not that great when considering the volume of seeds and stems in the mix.
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Quote from ruouttaurmind :
I hear you, and I do not disagree. But it's about the overall value. This is slickdeals after all.

In a $100 set, a bit of filler is one thing. Most $100 sets have their fair share. But in a $237 set with over 50% filler, the value is significantly diminished. At this price point you have many options. The overall value of this set is not that great when considering the volume of seeds and stems in the mix.
Why do you call it "filler"? They're all tools after all. Some have more $ value than others and some, depending on your particular use case, may have more utility than others - but they are still all tools.

Would you be happier if they broke it all down into the numbers of different types of tools included? Oh wait, they do...
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Why do you call it "filler"? They're all tools after all. Some have more $ value than others and some, depending on your particular use case, may have more utility than others - but they are still all tools.
Thank you for asking. I appreciate that at least some folks can have a civil discussion in these forums.

I refer to it as filler because the actual monetary value is minimal, typically the quality is low, and the sheer volume included is clearly added to drive up the piece count and increase perceived value. I concede the hex keys can add functionality to a tool set. As can a handful of screwdriver bits and bit handle. But 175 mediocre quality screwdriver bits? Clearly added for the count total only. I consider it to be deceptive marketing and that offends me. But that is my own perspective.
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Quote from ruouttaurmind :
Thank you for asking. I appreciate that at least some folks can have a civil discussion in these forums.

I refer to it as filler because the actual monetary value is minimal, typically the quality is low, and the sheer volume included is clearly added to drive up the piece count and increase perceived value. I concede the hex keys can add functionality to a tool set. As can a handful of screwdriver bits and bit handle. But 175 mediocre quality screwdriver bits? Clearly added for the count total only. I consider it to be deceptive marketing and that offends me. But that is my own perspective.
How can it be deceptive when they clearly show and describe the contents? If someone is buying based on the total piece count rather than looking to see what is actually included and it's value for them in regards to what they are doing, then they're an idiot and that's on them.

I don't know the quality of these specific screwdriver bits, but it is a nice variety - even including security bits that are rarely seen, but increasingly needed, in tool kits like this.

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