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Nov 26, 2020 2:55 PM

4TB WD Red Plus 3.5" 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s NAS Internal Hard Drive

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B&H Photo Video has 4TB WD Red Plus 3.5" 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s NAS Internal Hard Drive (WDBAVV0040HNC-WRSN) for $89.99. Shipping is free.

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Newegg has 4TB WD Red Plus 3.5" 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s NAS Internal Hard Drive (WD40EFRX) for $89.99. Shipping is free.

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B&H Photo Video has 4TB WD Red Plus 3.5" 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s NAS Internal Hard Drive (WDBAVV0040HNC-WRSN) for $89.99. Shipping is free.

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Newegg has 4TB WD Red Plus 3.5" 5400RPM SATA 6Gb/s NAS Internal Hard Drive (WD40EFRX) for $89.99. Shipping is free.

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highspeedfelon
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I think the Red are SMR and the Red Plus are CMR.
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Efreak
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It matters more for data being frequently written than it does for data at rest, so yes. For a very short explanation of the differences, see here: https://blag.nullteilerfrei.de/20...-a-hdd-mr/
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Nov 29, 2020 3:11 AM
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WekNov 29, 2020 3:11 AM
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These drives are optimized for NAS use but can I throw these into an regular enclosure and use for storage? Or are there better/cheaper alternatives (blues)?
Nov 29, 2020 3:18 AM
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blueposeidonNov 29, 2020 3:18 AM
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Hey guys, 5200rpm hdd isn't enough to got FP imo.
Why so many thumbs up here?
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Nov 29, 2020 3:42 AM
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Ducman69Nov 29, 2020 3:42 AM
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4TB drive in almost 2021? OK. And here I am practically throwing away my old 6TB drives on local listings.
Nov 29, 2020 4:12 AM
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SeikenDensetsuNov 29, 2020 4:12 AM
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Quote from blunt_eastwood View quoted comment :
Thanks for the detailed response. It's very helpful. I use a 256 GB SSD for Windows and a few applications, and I have a 1 TB HDD that I save games on.

I want more space to save more games and also some gameplay that I want to record to use as video, so I wanted to get another HDD for that.

Would this [newegg.com]be a good choice in your opinion give what you've said about speeds? It's 5900 RPM.

This [amazon.com] page shows the full specs.
My friend you need to use an SSD for video games, not an HDD

SSD is cheaper than HDD and provides significant faster loading times

Use HDD for storage is ok but at this point in time there is no reason to put on HDD
Nov 29, 2020 4:53 AM
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TravisHardimanNov 29, 2020 4:53 AM
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(Oops, put my comment in the wrong box!)

The non-plus Red are only $80 + free shipping at WD's site:
https://shop.westerndigital.com/p...d#WD40EFAX
Last edited by TravisHardiman November 28, 2020 at 08:58 PM.
Nov 29, 2020 4:56 AM
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deathaloNov 29, 2020 4:56 AM
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Awesome, got this for 79.99 at Newegg after using a $10 email coupon they had sent me last week.
Nov 29, 2020 4:59 AM
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megablankNov 29, 2020 4:59 AM
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Quote from Ducman69 View quoted comment :
4TB drive in almost 2021? OK. And here I am practically throwing away my old 6TB drives on local listings.
Yea pretty tragic they still make these.

They should be $60 at this point, as the lowest tier drive.

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Nov 29, 2020 5:00 AM
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mykohsuNov 29, 2020 5:00 AM
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Quote from TravisHardiman View quoted comment :
(Oops, put my comment in the wrong box!)

The non-plus Red are only $80 + free shipping at WD's site:
https://shop.westerndigital.com/p...d#WD40EFAX
Everyone wants the plus here
Nov 29, 2020 5:07 AM
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seywhutNov 29, 2020 5:07 AM
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Quote from SeikenDensetsu View quoted comment :
My friend you need to use an SSD for video games, not an HDD

SSD is cheaper than HDD and provides significant faster loading times

Use HDD for storage is ok but at this point in time there is no reason to put on HDD
Not really. As far as price more or less, a 1TB SSD = 4TB HDD. Not all people are the same as far as games. Sure SSD for serious gamers, maybe even NVME in R0. Some people don't play high end games & I'm sure that guy who's using a 1TB HDD for games doesn't.
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Nov 29, 2020 5:19 AM
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hottieNov 29, 2020 5:19 AM
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Seagate Ironwolf was same price but went up by 5$

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...ernal.html
Nov 29, 2020 5:47 AM
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Madman999Nov 29, 2020 5:47 AM
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Quote from Wek View quoted comment :
These drives are optimized for NAS use but can I throw these into an regular enclosure and use for storage? Or are there better/cheaper alternatives (blues)?
You can use these like any other drive but they will be slow. These drives are meant for nas and raid units for archiving data or used in file servers like the qnap or synology. They can achieve better io and performance in those applications when grouped with several drives.... Well actually the network speed would be the bottleneck.

The characteristics of these drives are low rotation speed, low cost per gigabyte which equates to low power consumption, heat generation and ultimately, reliability and long life. These old-style spinning hard-drives still have some usefulness. 5400-5900 rpm drives have replace 7200 rpm drives at capacities greater than 4tb probably for reliability and cost reasons.

If you want best performance in a desktop setting, go with an ssd. Ssds work great as desktop drives because read performance is better. Ssds have a finite write performance life span though so they are not best suited for heavy file writing.
Nov 29, 2020 5:47 AM
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NatePuppyNov 29, 2020 5:47 AM
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I can't recommend any HDD these days except in special cases.

They're orders of magnitude slower than SSDs for random read-writes, and they break much sooner than anything than the lowest tier of SSDs.
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Nov 29, 2020 6:15 AM
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WekNov 29, 2020 6:15 AM
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Quote from Madman999 View quoted comment :
You can use these like any other drive but they will be slow. These drives are meant for nas and raid units for archiving data or used in file servers like the qnap or synology. They can achieve better io and performance in those applications when grouped with several drives.... Well actually the network speed would be the bottleneck.

The characteristics of these drives are low rotation speed, low cost per gigabyte which equates to low power consumption, heat generation and ultimately, reliability and long life. These old-style spinning hard-drives still have some usefulness. 5400-5900 rpm drives have replace 7200 rpm drives at capacities greater than 4tb probably for reliability and cost reasons.

If you want best performance in a desktop setting, go with an ssd. Ssds work great as desktop drives because read performance is better. Ssds have a finite write performance life span though so they are not best suited for heavy file writing.
Thanks for the explanation. I would be using these drives for mid/long-term storage like a NAS but in an regular enclosure connected via USB (don't have a NAS setup).
Nov 29, 2020 6:30 AM
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Madman999Nov 29, 2020 6:30 AM
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Quote from Wek View quoted comment :
Thanks for the explanation. I would be using these drives for mid/long-term storage like a NAS but in an regular enclosure connected via USB (don't have a NAS setup).
They'll work fine in that case. If the enclosure you have has raid, performance should be okay.

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Nov 29, 2020 7:11 AM
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b.armsNov 29, 2020 7:11 AM
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Quote from Wek View quoted comment :
Thanks for the explanation. I would be using these drives for mid/long-term storage like a NAS but in an regular enclosure connected via USB (don't have a NAS setup).
These will work like any other 5400 RPM drive, only they'll work better than some in multi-disk situations. Any drive can be used in RAID, but these have been tested and tweaked to work more optimally in RAID. As a standard drive, there isn't going to really be a difference between this and a WD Blue (CMR) for instance. In fact, I would be surprised if the wasn't the exact same drive as the WD Blue WD40EZRZ with slightly different firmware and a different sticker.

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This reminds me of back to the day of Green VS Red drives, where WD Green were the cheapest they sold, and Red were the 2nd most expensive on the Consumer market. Black drives being the only non-enterprise drives they sold at the time that were more expensive than Red. Blues at the time were closer to Blacks in spec, but they certainly didn't have the performance or cache. Purples were another 5400RPM with modified firmware.

Hardware wise, Greens and Reds were almost identical. In fact, there were some External Drive models that would randomly have either drive model in them when shucked. WD even treated them interchangeably.

The firmware was the biggest (only?) difference, and it wasn't so much that Red had super-magical firmware that somehow made it a better drive, it was that Greens had firmware that hampered performance and literally shortened their lifespan because the heads would park way too frequently. This was such a controversy when discovered, WD discontinued the Green line altogether.
Last edited by b.arms November 28, 2020 at 11:26 PM.

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