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Real-life drama at the beach ... Rammy's in trouble again ... apparently the wife doesn't like me taking pictures of other women

24,862 1,948 July 22, 2009 at 10:01 AM in Cameras
Amongst the ~200 photos I took last week at the beach, I snapped 3-4 pictures of some hotties that were walking up and down the beach. The wife took great offense to this and I thought it was playful at first but (as women are apt to do) an argument ensued which turned into her giving me the cold, silent treatment for the next 24 hours. She indicated I was "to take pictures of only her & the kids".

Disrespectful? Immature? In hindsight a little, but in her words "I'm married, I'm not dead". I wasn't peeping through a peephole at some ESPN hottie, I was taking a picture of someone strolling a few yards in front of me proudly displaying the goods that God gave her. Just how insecure can she be?

Is this a potential for a double standard? The wife had a massage at a day spa from a "young surfer dude" who was checking her out. Do I come out with the directive "no man can touch you except for me at any time". To take it to another level, shouldn't I be able to get lap dances (I don't btw) without feeling guilty. I agree that's extreme, but give me a break.

I thought things had cooled down the next day or two (makeup OTs) but then out of the blue the wife went through and deleted the pictures on my camera - which simply pissed me off. The following is all that's left. It was intended to be a humorous presentation to the lounge: (a) picture of hotties, (b) picture of wife holding up hand in front of camera, (c) picture of ocean as wife punched hubby in stomach.

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Last Edited by daniel32 July 23, 2009 at 03:57 PM
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jj.12321
07-22-2009 at 10:45 AM.
07-22-2009 at 10:45 AM.
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I beg to differ. There could be a million reasons why it bothers her. And I'm surprised that you know so much about their sex life. I think we might have found the real voyeur in this thread.
Hey, he posted about his sex life, and I tried to give him advice on improving it. I just remember the conversation. He seems like a nice guy and I am legitimately trying to help him out, as opposed to making him feel guilty for something he did which was totally innocent.

But go ahead and call me a name if it makes you feel better.
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07-22-2009 at 10:46 AM.
07-22-2009 at 10:46 AM.
Quote from jj12321 :
No offense man, but this seems to be the classic case of a nice guy marrying a controlling woman.

She controls what pictures you take. She controls when you have sex (hardly ever).

Of course it's a double standard.. She knows she can walk all over you.

I know this is overly blunt, but you need to read a book on assertiveness so you don't constantly get walked over. She is probably going to throw some tantrums at first, but she needs to learn that you are not her puppet.
Grrrr, largely accurate but no offense taken.

Our relationship, like many healthy ones, is a "give and take" relationship. She generally has control, but (I like to think) I have final say on matters that I care to take a stand. The kids know this, when Daddy puts his foot down, its not moving. I did make it clear to her (after the fact, when I discovered the photos were deleted) that this was unacceptable of her to do. She protested with some lame excuse but saw I was serious and backed off.

Sure, I'm on a leash at times but when it gets too tight I tell her to let it go or I'll pull.
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07-22-2009 at 10:46 AM.
07-22-2009 at 10:46 AM.
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I will test out what happens when taking pics of other random women.
You really don't want to have sex anytime soon, do you?

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Women wouldnt think it was wrong for them to oogle men in a magazine or some hunk walking down the street and would probably get annoyed, upset and angry if hubby/ even brought it up. What this indicates is that they think all men are dogs and cant keep it in the pants whereas they have ultimate self control.

The deleting of the pics does indicate 'control issues'. She could have asked you nicely to delete them instead of invading your personal space. That would have still been bad but more appropriate. Does she also go through your computer, wallet and pant pockets to. Just because people are married you dont give up the rights to have your own personal space and shit.

Magazine pics - not real men = photoshopped.

Looking at men on the streets is notthe same as taking pictures.

Try again.
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07-22-2009 at 10:47 AM.
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Ummm.. no.

Like I said before, even the men here thought it was odd and creepy that Rammy was taking these pics. I can only imagine wtf the wife was thinking.
I'm the only one who said that.

I just don't see the point of it until Rammy said it's for lounge humor. Even then, I'd probably chose a different way of humoring the lounge (not because my wife would care, but just because... it's odd taking pictures of strangers even if you think they're hot), but that's just me Dontknow
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07-22-2009 at 10:47 AM.
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Wait, are you guys talking about me or Rammy?
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07-22-2009 at 10:47 AM.
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Thanks everyone. My day was going slow until this thread. Thumbsup
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07-22-2009 at 10:48 AM.
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She should apologize for deleting his pictures of other women? You're single, aren't you?

You did read where Rammy said he wants to stay married, right?
If she's going to divorce him over 3 beach pictures, the marriage is doomed

Your last comment is very telling.. Do you think the man needs to be totally submissive for a marriage to work? I don't. I also don't think the woman should be submissive either.

These "other women" were just people walking on the beach. How is that different than taking pictures of a seagull?
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07-22-2009 at 10:48 AM.
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Quote from BrgnHntr :
I'd be pissed if my husband was taking pictures too. And even more pissed if he was posting them online for his buddies. I'd have deleted them, too. It would feel very disrespectful to me. You can blow it off as her problem (insecurity), but she probably didn't feel insecure until she saw you taking pictures of other women. Just my 2 cents...
Do guys (and gals) in a relationship suddenly develop tremendous blinders so they no longer notice attractive members of the opposite sex? Impossible.

Where do you draw the line? I think this line varies in each relationship.
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07-22-2009 at 10:48 AM.
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LOL, no offense, but as I was typing my response, I predicted you'd say something like this. I respect your POV, but I disagree.

What he did was no different than taking pictures of the ocean or landscape. The wife was very petty to go through and delete his photos. They were his, not hers.

Let's turn it around. Should the man be allowed to forbid her to get messages? Should the man be allowed to go through her stuff and destroy what makes him insecure? I don't think so. If Rammy was a woman poster, and her husband was controlling, I'd give the same advice.
You predicted what I'd say? Do I even know you?

I don't need to explain my POV. It's clearly very different from yours, different marriages have different 'rules' and that wouldn't be acceptable in mine. My husband has a 'right' to have all the pictures of bikini clad and naked women he wants. But, that doesn't mean I'll be okay with it. His giving up that right is part of the agreement of being married to me and a choice he has/had his own free will to make.

If he didn't want hot guys giving me massages on the beach, he has the right to ask me not to and I'd respect that. I prefer my massages from women anyway.
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07-22-2009 at 10:48 AM.
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Is it a hot seagull with large boobies?
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07-22-2009 at 10:48 AM.
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I don't know why people find these things so tough to figure out. If one person in a relationship finds a behavior disrespectful then it is off limits--period. Dontknow

That's why you spend so much time dating and learning about the other person before getting into a committed relationship. If there are enough differences then you walk away before it gets too serious.
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07-22-2009 at 10:49 AM.
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Quote from Ram|bunc|tious :
Do guys (and gals) in a relationship suddenly develop tremendous blinders so they no longer notice attractive members of the opposite sex? Impossible.

Where do you draw the line? I think this line varies in each relationship.
I am with you on the looking part, but why the need to take a pic? That is where I am lost.
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07-22-2009 at 10:51 AM.
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I always forbid my wife to get messages. I mean WTF? How dare she get a voicemail. Or OMG, if she gets a text message, that's it our marriage is over! Mad Mad Argue Mad Mad
And you are proving my point.. Both spouses need to be reasonable, and not controlling.
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Your last comment is very telling.. Do you think the man needs to be totally submissive for a marriage to work? I don't. I also don't think the woman should be submissive either.
I hate to say it, but I agree with this comment 100%.
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07-22-2009 at 10:51 AM.
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I'm the only one who said that.

I just don't see the point of it until Rammy said it's for lounge humor. Even then, I'd probably chose a different way of humoring the lounge (not because my wife would care, but just because... it's odd taking pictures of strangers even if you think they're hot), but that's just me Dontknow
Yeah, you're right. Other people agreed (I don't remember their sex, though. laugh out loud)

I find it odd, too, FTR. If I saw a guy doing this on the beach, it would seriously creep me out.


Quote from jj12321 :
If she's going to divorce him over 3 beach pictures, the marriage is doomed

Your last comment is very telling.. Do you think the man needs to be totally submissive for a marriage to work? I don't. I also don't think the woman should be submissive either.

These "other women" were just people walking on the beach. How is that different than taking pictures of a seagull?
So answer the question, you're single, right? Yep, I thought so.

Where did I say she was going to divorce him over 3 beach pictures? Stop trying to twist my words to fit your needs.

And if I really have to explain to you the difference between a seagull and a woman, then you simply need more help than I can provide.
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