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Toller
03-04-2021 at 07:49 AM.
03-04-2021 at 07:49 AM.
Quote from Jon2288 :
still has some uses but is probably shy of the ability to run appliances for any period
Good luck finding an appliance that will start on 2a.
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DmoRulez
03-04-2021 at 08:03 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:03 AM.
These are good for camping. They'll run a diesel heater all night. These are not meant to be generator replacements. It's off grid power when you're in the middle of nowhere to keep your devices charged and small burners or what not.
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lilgrubbybaby
03-04-2021 at 08:06 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:06 AM.
Quote from BudmanTom :
While "BigBlue" is great and it certainly serves a purpose if you really wanted some reserve power wouldn't it be better to get something like a deep cycle battery and a power inverter?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverSt.../164242687 [walmart.com]

https://www.amazon.com/Kinverch-C...NrPXRydWU= [amazon.com]

I'd like to have a good backup for my Cpap and "BigBlue" should do the trick but for less money I think you could do better?
Pretty different solutions overall.
capacity, price, portability, ease of use, not to mention battery chemistry which affects # of cycles and shelf life...
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03-04-2021 at 08:09 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:09 AM.
Quote from Toller :
Good luck finding an appliance that will start on 2a.
Not to beat a dead horse this "Portable Generator" produces 250Wh which equates to 2.08 Amp Hours the deep cycle battery I mentioned above produces 109 Ah. I don't know much about electricity and my calculations may be way off and I understand you are paying for convenience but that's a huge difference.

13100 Wh to = 109 Amp hours.
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EdMcK515
03-04-2021 at 08:10 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:10 AM.
Quote from Follywood :
It's not a generator

They don't call it one. Anker sells a similar product and calls it a generator. I think power station is a fair name for it.
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oodarthvader
03-04-2021 at 08:14 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:14 AM.
I have a similar product to this and I can attest that it is great for running a CPAP while camping. As long as you use DC to DC for the CPAP, the battery lasts multiple nights without needing to charge. I also have a 60W solar panel to recharge it during the day.
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davidallen1
03-04-2021 at 08:16 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:16 AM.
Quote from DmoRulez :
These are good for camping. They'll run a diesel heater all night. These are not meant to be generator replacements. It's off grid power when you're in the middle of nowhere to keep your devices charged and small burners or what not.
This battaty will run a diesel heater? Wouldn't the diesel heater run on diesel itself hence the name "diesel heater"?!
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BudmanTom
03-04-2021 at 08:18 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:18 AM.
Quote from lilgrubbybaby :
Pretty different solutions overall.
capacity, price, portability, ease of use, not to mention battery chemistry which affects # of cycles and shelf life...
Absolutely very different solutions and once again taking nothing away from BigBlue, I was looking for a solution for my backup needs both can work one is more portable and self contained the other has a lot more power and is a bit more cumbersome.

Shelf life/battery life well who knows about the power station doing a bit of research online it looks like you can get 2-10+ years depending how you take care of the deep cycle battery.
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lilgrubbybaby
03-04-2021 at 08:20 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:20 AM.
Quote from davidallen1 :
This battaty will run a diesel heater? Wouldn't the diesel heater run on diesel itself hence the name "diesel heater"?!
There are glow plugs and fans involved.
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yuyueqi1993
03-04-2021 at 08:30 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:30 AM.
what's the difference between this and a big deep cycle battery with inverter?
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lilgrubbybaby
03-04-2021 at 08:31 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:31 AM.
Quote from BudmanTom :
Not to beat a dead horse this "Portable Generator" produces 250Wh which equates to 2.08 Amp Hours the deep cycle battery I mentioned above produces 109 Ah. I don't know much about electricity and my calculations may be way off and I understand you are paying for convenience but that's a huge difference.

13100 Wh to = 109 Amp hours.
Your Ah calculation for this unit is a decimal place off.
Quote from BudmanTom :
Absolutely very different solutions and once again taking nothing away from BigBlue, I was looking for a solution for my backup needs both can work one is more portable and self contained the other has a lot more power and is a bit more cumbersome.

Shelf life/battery life well who knows about the power station doing a bit of research online it looks like you can get 2-10+ years depending how you take care of the deep cycle battery.
Years aren't really meaningful if you're not mentioning usage and capacity loss over those years, the chemistry of the batteries make for pretty different usage. You will be able to discharge more total power from a lithium battery with 1/5th the capacity of a lead acid battery over their lifetimes, the capacity loss really is that different.
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03-04-2021 at 08:41 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:41 AM.
Quote from oodarthvader :
I have a similar product to this and I can attest that it is great for running a CPAP while camping. As long as you use DC to DC for the CPAP, the battery lasts multiple nights without needing to charge. I also have a 60W solar panel to recharge it during the day.

What product do you use for your CPAP and do you have a link or suggestion?
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ricbsw
03-04-2021 at 08:46 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:46 AM.
I use something similar to run my portable wood pellet smoker/grill and it works great. Great for camping, outings to the beach and tailgating. My battery pack easily charges all of our electronics and laptop when off the grid. I believe these can be recharged with optional solar panels.
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03-04-2021 at 08:53 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:53 AM.
Quote from BudmanTom :
While "BigBlue" is great and it certainly serves a purpose if you really wanted some reserve power wouldn't it be better to get something like a deep cycle battery and a power inverter?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverSt.../164242687

https://www.amazon.com/Kinverch-C...NrPXRydWU=

I'd like to have a good backup for my Cpap and "BigBlue" should do the trick but for less money I think you could do better?

Solar generators are more than two components. You can buy a battery and a inverter but how will you then charge the battery? The solar generator can receive AC input DC input solar input. Output via USB-A and USB-C and the cigarette lighter port. It has a built-in solar charge controller. The better ones offer regulated 12-volt output so when your battery gets down to 50% your CPAP won't shut off.
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03-04-2021 at 08:54 AM.
03-04-2021 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from Follywood :
It's not a generator
You are right.

Actually, there are no such thing as generator. Even your conventional gas generator doesn't generate energy. It is just converting stored chemical energy from the petrol to a usable form like electricity. That's the law of conservation of energy . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con..._of_energy

Now add a solar panel to this listed product and you will also be able to convert the sun rays to a useable electricity. The good thing is, you will also be able to store that energy from the sun in to this product and use it when it is needed.

Again, there's no such thing as a generator. You cannot generate energy. You can only convert it to one form to another.
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