expiredsmileyborg posted Mar 12, 2021 07:43 AM
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expiredsmileyborg posted Mar 12, 2021 07:43 AM
Bluetti AC200P 2000Wh/2000W Portable Power Station $1698
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Amazon $1798 - $100 coupon (click to apply) = $1698
https://www.amazon.com/BLUETTI-Po...B08MZJW9Y5
Bluetti direct $1999 - $300 coupon (code AC200P300) = $1699
https://www.bluetti.com/products/bluetti-ac200p-2000wh-2000w-portable-power-station [bluetti.com]
https://www.amazon.com/BLUETTI-Po...B08MZJW9Y5
Bluetti direct $1999 - $300 coupon (code AC200P300) = $1699
https://www.bluetti.com/products/bluetti-ac200p-2000wh-2000w-portable-power-station [bluetti.com]
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Amazon $1798 - $100 coupon (click to apply) = $1698
https://www.amazon.com/BLUETTI-Po...B08MZJW9Y5
Bluetti direct $1999 - $300 coupon (code AC200P300) = $1699
https://www.bluetti.com/products/bluetti-ac200p-2000wh-2000w-portable-power-station [bluetti.com]
https://www.amazon.com/BLUETTI-Po...B08MZJW9Y5
Bluetti direct $1999 - $300 coupon (code AC200P300) = $1699
https://www.bluetti.com/products/bluetti-ac200p-2000wh-2000w-portable-power-station [bluetti.com]
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EDIT: Looking at this thing, nothing about it makes sense. I currently have a Honda EU3000is generator... they cost around $1200 used and it has 30% more capacity then this battery. I'm comparing a used generator to this new battery because this battery will have a <10 year lifespan while the Honda generator will last a lifetime. SO let's look at it, $1698 + tax is ~$1840. That is $640 more than the Honda. The Honda takes about 1 gallon of gas to run for 3 hours. If you use premium at $3.30 per gallon, you can buy 194 gallons of gas which will provide over 580 hours of power. This doesn't take into account that you also have to still charge the battery at a rate that is ~ 40% of producing your own generation. That makes using it for a power storage extremely expensive when combined with the purchase price and if you are planning on using it for an emergency source of power then you will most likely have it hooked up to a charger all the time which will further reduce the lifespan of the cells. Again, it just doesn't make sense. I would say this is not a good price.
EDIT: Looking at this thing, nothing about it makes sense. I currently have a Honda EU3000is generator... they cost around $1200 used and it has 30% more capacity then this battery. I'm comparing a used generator to this new battery because this battery will have a <10 year lifespan while the Honda generator will last a lifetime. SO let's look at it, $1698 + tax is ~$1840. That is $640 more than the Honda. The Honda takes about 1 gallon of gas to run for 3 hours. If you use premium at $3.30 per gallon, you can buy 194 gallons of gas which will provide over 580 hours of power. This doesn't take into account that you also have to still charge the battery at a rate that is ~ 40% of producing your own generation. That makes using it for a power storage extremely expensive when combined with the purchase price and if you are planning on using it for an emergency source of power then you will most likely have it hooked up to a charger all the time which will further reduce the lifespan of the cells. Again, it just doesn't make sense. I would say this is not a good price.
My 1100w generator runs on less than a gallon for hours.
Also, a Group 24 marine deep cycle battery ($90), a case ($8), a 2000w inverter ($180), a battery charger ($80), and you get the same power. $360
Add in some solar cells if you want an alternate way to charge the battery, and you're set for much less.
This LiFePO4 power station weighs 60lbs.
Therefore, not much different in weight than a deep cycle battery (which comes with a handle, too).
It's not that a LiFePO4 power station cannot be a great alternative, it's just that it is not affordable to the majority of people. Top 5% with disposable income, sure. Average working man with middle class income...better cheaper alternatives.
My 1100w generator runs on less than a gallon for hours.
Also, a Group 24 marine deep cycle battery ($90), a case ($8), a 2000w inverter ($180), a battery charger ($80), and you get the same power. $360
Add in some solar cells if you want an alternate way to charge the battery, and you're set for much less.
This LiFePO4 power station weighs 60lbs.
Therefore, not much different in weight than a deep cycle battery (which comes with a handle, too).
^ this.
but i never recommend siphoning gas out from a vehicle. if someone is taking the effort to go to the gas station, they can spend the extra 5 mins and fill up a few 5 gallon gas cans.
and yes people underestimate the usefulness of those deep cycle marine batteries which are very cheap (even if one lives in a high tax high regulation liberal nanny state like Californina where you have to pay all of those taxes and fees). you can go grab an inverter from harbor freight for cheap with coupon, a charger for $10, and you are set. and as you said, add a solar panel or two and keep that baby topped off during the day
14,000 WH for $8000 == 1.75W per dollar.
Bluetti AC200P
2,000 WH for $1,700 == 1.17W per dollar
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My 1100w generator runs on less than a gallon for hours.
Also, a Group 24 marine deep cycle battery ($90), a case ($8), a 2000w inverter ($180), a battery charger ($80), and you get the same power. $360
Add in some solar cells if you want an alternate way to charge the battery, and you're set for much less.
This LiFePO4 power station weighs 60lbs.
Therefore, not much different in weight than a deep cycle battery (which comes with a handle, too).
It's not that a LiFePO4 power station cannot be a great alternative, it's just that it is not affordable to the majority of people. Top 5% with disposable income, sure. Average working man with middle class income...better cheaper alternatives.
All in all, I am not still buying this Bluetti because like you said, people like me don't have that disposable income. I'll wait for more competition to drive the price down.... however your alternative solutions for this weren't any better. In fact, it is more expensive and dangerous.
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That's why I compared it to my Honda. It runs at 49-58 decibels depending on load. The gas generator runs at ~45 percent efficiency while the battery is being charged from ~ 60% efficient power sources that have a 5% transmission loss, 2% AC->DC conversion loss, 2% DC->AC conversion loss and a variable amount of decay loss depending on how long the battery sits before being used. So the battery is really at most 51% efficient. It is not much of a difference as far as emissions is concerned with the caveat being unless you are able to charge the battery using solar power. Honda generators rarely experience clog carburetors. It's usually the cheap Chinese clone carburetors that do.
OTOH I had a Craftsman snow blower that wouldn't start the second year, still under warranty. The repair man told me it was a POS and I should plan on replacing the carb yearly. It never clogged again. Go figure.
"I didn't buy a battery powered generator because the batteries severely underperform in cold weather!" I'll just hope and prey the ice storm melts soon and the roads clear up so the power company can get the powerlines back up.
Oh wait...what if it's a 120 degrees in the summer outside and there's a blackout for a week? New York. What if the grid goes down for a few months? What if a hurricane takes out the whole system? How you gonna get gas or propane? Puerto Rico. I know it's difficult to imagine and we all love to think it can't happen here (where ever that is) but it's really kinda ignorant to think this way anymore. But hey, do you buddy. I've got more than one option if this ever happens, and that's the point.
Also you cannot run your inverter generator indoors, which means you need a transfer switch at breaker panel. Since this battery power source can be used indoors it can be moved from device to device, as needed. The ability to recharge from solar panels is rather convenient but does require taking device outside to be close to these panels.
Overall it has some use but is not for everyone who needs backup power, in case of blackout.
Also you cannot run your inverter generator indoors, which means you need a transfer switch at breaker panel. Since this battery power source can be used indoors it can be moved from device to device, as needed. The ability to recharge from solar panels is rather convenient but does require taking device outside to be close to these panels.
Overall it has some use but is not for everyone who needs backup power, in case of blackout.
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