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First Alert Z-Wave Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm (2nd Generation, 1044807) on sale for
$31.39.
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Note, In stock on March 22, 2021.
About this Product:
- Help keep your family safe with this battery-powered smoke detector and carbon monoxide alarm; includes 2 AA batteries
- This device is certified to work with Ring; Enjoy improved compatibility, easier setup and a seamless in-app experience. Receive real-time notifications in the Ring App when smoke or carbon monoxide is detected
- The Z-Wave Plus with Smart Start feature allows a faster and more intuitive connection of device to hub and on-boarding via QR code scan located on device
- Certified to work with smart home systems such as Ring Alarm, Samsung SmartThings, and Nexia Home Intelligence when connected to a Z-Wave Plus gateway hub (sold separately; Not compatible with Wink or Onelink)
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We've been telling them for years now that we want a smoke detector that's hardwired with a battery backup & Z-Wave. Apparently it's an impossibility at this point or something.
You can have a Z-Wave smoke detector as long as it's battery powered or you can have a hard wired smoke detector that doesn't have Z-Wave but you couldn't possibly fathom having both in one unit.
And for that reason, I'm out.
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I think they are great, I use lithium batteries and they are still going strong.
Only downside, they don't alarm together, if one goes off, the others do not alarm with it.
I think they are great, I use lithium batteries and they are still going strong.
Only downside, they don't alarm together, if one goes off, the others do not alarm with it.
I like these z-wave ones though because they will alert your smartphone if one goes off. Much more practical for people that always have their phones with them (99% of people lol), or are out of the house, etc.
We've been telling them for years now that we want a smoke detector that's hardwired with a battery backup & Z-Wave. Apparently it's an impossibility at this point or something.
You can have a Z-Wave smoke detector as long as it's battery powered or you can have a hard wired smoke detector that doesn't have Z-Wave but you couldn't possibly fathom having both in one unit.
And for that reason, I'm out.
There are zwave hardwired detectors out there, they are just very costly. For the price of $30/each it's pretty unrealistic to expect best of both worlds.
I ended up taking a weekend to wire everything up just because it was such a pita.
Next IMO?
I think they are great, I use lithium batteries and they are still going strong.
Only downside, they don't alarm together, if one goes off, the others do not alarm with it.
I don't have one yet, but if they appear as alarm device in the z-wave hub, you can program the hub when any one of them goes off, all others will go off too (and any other z-wave devices that supports alarm or notification).
I'm thinking to get them to replace those battery operated basic one installed by previous owner just to comply with laws when selling the house.
We've been telling them for years now that we want a smoke detector that's hardwired with a battery backup & Z-Wave. Apparently it's an impossibility at this point or something.
You can have a Z-Wave smoke detector as long as it's battery powered or you can have a hard wired smoke detector that doesn't have Z-Wave but you couldn't possibly fathom having both in one unit.
And for that reason, I'm out.
I eventually broke down and got the (very expensive) Nest System. Yet another ecosystem is annoying, but the system seems responsive and easy to setup. I've "tested" with accidental burns in the kitchen and the one just outside in the hallway one picks it up well and I get voice alerts from all the units all throughout the house. The wireless ones last along time on batteries (>1yr with >80% battery).
Just had renovations done and they had to bring things up to code and hardwire 4 new ones (Ugh!) so I stuck with Nest....
Supposedly you can integrate these Nest smoke alarms with SmartThings...but I haven't looked into it yet...
I don't have one yet, but if they appear as alarm device in the z-wave hub, you can program the hub when any one of them goes off, all others will go off too (and any other z-wave devices that supports alarm or notification).
I'm thinking to get them to replace those battery operated basic one installed by previous owner just to comply with laws when selling the house.
Gen 2 are zwave plus, longer range, better battery usage. Also the QR code for setup with Ring.
Not worth the upgrade but I was actually looking to buy a few more for a few rooms with non zwave detectors.
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Can you provide a link. Cost is not a consideration if I can finally find one. To my knowledge it was some kind of code that stated that the alarms could not be Z-Wave and hardwired together with other detectors, or hardwire-powered with Z-Wave. Others explained it better above.
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I like these z-wave ones though because they will alert your smartphone if one goes off. Much more practical for people that always have their phones with them (99% of people lol), or are out of the house, etc.
I eventually broke down and got the (very expensive) Nest System. Yet another ecosystem is annoying, but the system seems responsive and easy to setup. I've "tested" with accidental burns in the kitchen and the one just outside in the hallway one picks it up well and I get voice alerts from all the units all throughout the house. The wireless ones last along time on batteries (>1yr with >80% battery).
Just had renovations done and they had to bring things up to code and hardwire 4 new ones (Ugh!) so I stuck with Nest....
Supposedly you can integrate these Nest smoke alarms with SmartThings...but I haven't looked into it yet...
Not worth the upgrade but I was actually looking to buy a few more for a few rooms with non zwave detectors.
https://products.z-wavealliance.o.
There is a MASSIVE delta that exists between what I would like to see and current versions available. I've been in the Z-Wave game long enough to see that the magic number to add Z-Wave to an existing device via licensing, hardware, etc. seems to be about $20 give or take. Therefore, it would not be unreasonable to expect something to exist in the $50-$75 (sale-retail) price range. Instead, what I see is a select few with poor reviews that cost 2-3x that amount. When you have over half a dozen to buy that's a substantial difference. This is especially costly when you consider you need to replace them every 6 years or so.
I don't mind paying a little bit more and it's YEARS we're talking about here that First Alert has had a toe dipped in the Z-Wave waters w/o nary a mention of the hard-wired offerings. It's high time they did something about that.
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I eventually broke down and got the (very expensive) Nest System. Yet another ecosystem is annoying, but the system seems responsive and easy to setup. I've "tested" with accidental burns in the kitchen and the one just outside in the hallway one picks it up well and I get voice alerts from all the units all throughout the house. The wireless ones last along time on batteries (>1yr with >80% battery).
Just had renovations done and they had to bring things up to code and hardwire 4 new ones (Ugh!) so I stuck with Nest....
Supposedly you can integrate these Nest smoke alarms with SmartThings...but I haven't looked into it yet...
I finally decided to take the "smart" responsibility away from my smokes. So glad I did. I've had the Z-Wave combos for a while now. In fact, long enough that they were all hitting the 6-year EoL so the alerts to be replaced were starting. I decided I wasn't going to invest in the Z-Wave wireless smokes again and went back to the better wired versions that didn't include Z-Wave. They're much cheaper and I don't have to worry about the cost difference when I need to replace them again. Instead, I added a Qubino (I think that's the name of it) & Kidde setup my one of my existing smokes and will let that alert my smart system of an alert. They're all linked again now so I can't tell which room is alerting specifically but I also don't really care. I treat such an event as a real emergency so it's not like I'll want to know what room the fire is in before I act to find out myself.
I'll reevaluate in 6 years when these are due to be replaced again.