Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [
Dealer Locator] located in
Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to
Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with
0% APR for 72-Months for as low as
$23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
- Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member
ExtremeOak for and reddit user
XIIXOO for finding this deal.
Deal Details:
- Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
- Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
- Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
- Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
- Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
- You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
- You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
- You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
- Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
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"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."
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For me the extra $15K in fuel card and having fueling options near me tipped it in Mirai's favor. If I count the fuel card value, my cost is ~$8,500 after tax financed at 0% for 72 months.
You can't drive as far on $15k in hydrogen as you can on gas or electric. Even a simple hybrid gets a lower cost per mile then a hydrogen vehicle. It's costs around $0.28-0.30 a mile to drive a fuel cell vehicle. A year of driving at the avg 12k miles is over $3600. Compare that to a hybrid that gets even say 40mpg, that same 12k miles a year only costs $1200. And yes there is maintenance on the hybrid unlike the fuel cell but if you plan on getting rid of it after the $15k fuel credit is finished. Then your better off leasing a hybrid then buying a fuel cell. Or even buying the hybrid as some manufacturers include maintenance for the first 2 or 3 years.
I wouldn't recommend getting a fuel cell vehicle for lease or purchase if 1. You don't live near refueling stations 2. You don't own a business and write the whole thing off And 3. You'd just have better luck with longevity with a standard hybrid or better yet a plug in hybrid then you would with a fuel cell vehicle.
I looked into getting the hyundai nexo but after finding out how expensive it is to refuel, I ended up going in a different direction plus it could only go 300 miles or so on a single tank which means I'd have to fill it up every week. Ended up with a BEV. And I only use a level 1 120v charger and I've never had to find a level 2 or level 3 just to make it home. Only on the long trips do I need one.
I've driven a 200 mile trip a couple times for free as I've found free L3 DC fast chargers along my route. And even if I have to pay they are around $0.20-$0.30 a kWh for Level 3 DC fast charger(at the stations I use).
I get 4 miles per kWh avg. Which is $0.05 per mile to $0.075 per mile when paying for it.
If you don't have access to charging at home. I'd recommend getting a Plugin hybrid as they have larger batteries and you can stay in EV mode longer. If you live in an area that has lots of hills a larger battery pack is great for regen on the downhills. In a fuel cell it has such a small battery that you can't make the most of it because there is no place for the excess energy to go.
On some downhill runs in the mountains I've been able to regen a lot. Sad thing is I don't remember exactly, I'd have to look it up in my photos as I took a photo of the State of Charge at the bottom, the top, and then back down at the bottom again. To see how much energy I've spent going up, and then regen-ing down. You can't do that in a fuel cell as it will stop regen-ing when the battery is full.
The only positive a fuel cell has is that you can fill it up in under 5 minutes. But with new EV battery tech coming out with 800v systems or even tesla's 250kWh fast charging, maybe you only need 5 minutes of charge to make it home. And then you charge up over night. And it's back to 90% or full.
But that's also based on if you can charge at home. If not a plug-in hybrid is best as it still costs less then $.05 per mile at $4 per gallon and 50mpg avg. And that's not including the fuel savings of driving in pure electric too when it's charged up from free stations, paid stations, or even downhill regen.
Well that's my $0.02 on fuel cells, BEVs, and PHEVs
Hope it gives people insight on cost and differences between the different types of vehicles.
i see electric car as a secondary car for a family.
bottom line, i don't think they directly compete with each other.
I hate that area.
I value the $15k card like $7,500 because of the expensive cost of hydrogen right now.
~$34k after taxes (+/- $1k?)
Take off $8k for Federal tax credit
Don't think I get any CA state rebate (I make over the income limit)
So that's $26k for just the car.
I get free fuel for 3 years (I'll never hit the free $15k limit considering how less I drive). If I consider how much I spend on gas (8k miles/year, $4/gal, 25mpg) over 3 years, I'd have spent $4k on gas.
Effectively, the Mirai is a $22k car for me with the amount of fuel costs I would save from a gas car.
Then if after 4 years it's worth ~$9k (according to previous Mirai depreciation, reminder that previous Mirai has a much higher MSRP).
A 2017 Camry SE with 30k miles is worth $15k (from $27k new, after tax).
If I sold both of the at the 4 year mark:
* Mirai costed me originally $22k, sold for $9k
* Camry costed me originally $27k, sold for $15k
It seems to be trading the more luxurious cabin with refueling convenience at this point as the cost of ownership seems to be within several thousand of a Camry.
Tell me if I got anything wrong! I'm genuinely considering buying one but I've been on the fence for a week now.
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i want a plug in so i can get free electric at charging stations.. but for now i guess i'll have to stick with my priusC averaging 58 mpg... and filling up at sams/costco.
I do have a CNG civic and once gasoline is 30% more than natural gas, i'll switch over to that as the daily, with a cheaper per mile cost... unless i can get an EV by then.
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