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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
sawman5
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from Knightshade :
We're still early in the S-curve of EV adoption.

It gets fast quick though.

Tesla has had 50% compound annual growth pretty much every year since they began mass production.. (and likely significantly higher than that for 2021 and 2022).

And a number of legacy makers are finally noticing which way the wind is blowing too (most prominently VW).

Many countries are already discussing banning new ICE vehicles entire within the next 10-15 years.


This will have compounding impacts faster than you'd expect... if nobody's gonna even be able to sell new ICE vehicles by X date, it's going to crater sales of them much sooner because- much like these FCV cars- nobody's gonna want a used one in a few years either.







CA is certainly still their biggest market in the US... but then that's true for almost everybody since it's the most populated state.

Ultimately the issue is Tesla- as with all makers of even just decent EVs- is production limited.

If they could physically produce more cars, they'd easily sell them.

Demand is a lot higher than supply- something Tesla knew a long time ago but most other companies only realized in the last couple of years.

It's why VW is now scrambling to build half a dozen new battery factories.

Why GM is introducing 30 new EV models in the next 4 years.

Why Audi has discontinued development of new internal combustion engines.


For context on the growth-

Tesla sold 50,580 in 2015.

By 2020 they sold almost 10 times that number by adding just one more factory.

They're adding 2 more, and larger ones, this year.

By 2025 they expect to sell significantly more than 10 times their 2020 number.






Why?

50% CAGR has Tesla producing 20 million new BEVs a year in less than a decade.

That's 25% of all new cars sold in a year- and just from ONE company.... there'll be plenty more EVs from the legacy companies that manage to make the transition.

(the ones that don't.... well, there's a lot of companies that made great horse carriages that aren't with us anymore either)




I am.

It's objectively terrible in comparison.

It's a stupid, inferior, solution given the current and future state of BEVs.




In 1992? Sure.

Now, it's billions they've basically set on fire when they could've been working on better electrification which is the obvious future at this point.

The fact they failed to do so is why they've been on the offensive spreading FUD about electric cars--- they backed the wrong horse- and for way too long- and they're realizing just how screwed they are at this late stage so they're desperate to bail some more water out of what'll be an increasingly obviously sinking ship.




The average American drives less than 30 miles a day.

Meaning the 250-300 miles most typical new EVs offer is almost 10 times more than typically needed....

(and obviously Tesla is offering cars with over 400 miles of range today, and over 500 in the next year- and with quite fast charging for the occasional road trip).





It already has.

As I mention- Toyotas been throwing money down the toilet on it since 1992.

The total # of Mirais ever sold is about what just ONE BEV company sells in 1 week.


It's a dead technology for passenger cars. This sale is evidence of that.


Thankfully the number of who refuse to learn this lesson is down to basically Toyota and Hyundai at this point (and Hyundai is at least making credible BEV efforts)



Mercedes Benz, which has ALSO wasted 30 years working on FCV passenger cars, finally abandoned their own efforts last year.

Honda also announced last year they were putting further FCV efforts on "indefinite hold"

Volkswagen published a detailed explanation of why FCVs suck here:
https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.c...stion-5868







Not really.

It would mean massive amounts of wasted resources on an objectively inferior, less efficient, far far more costly, solution for no apparent benefit to anybody but the people pushing the inferior solution.


Format wars are generally bad for everyone.
I respect your opinion that you are convinced FCEV is a bad tech, waste of money, and a dead-end. I am not an expert to prove otherwise. We won't be convincing Toyota to change course on SlickDeals Smilie

As others have stated, I hope those that test drove this sexy looking Mirai and wanted this car with all of its compromises managed to get on the deal. The best car that I've ever driven (not making an argument that it's the best car, etc.)
Last edited by Duke-GlobeTrotter March 23, 2021 at 07:02 PM.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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I am personally not getting on it but some people are.

Just an article that is not directly related to FCEV but the potential of hydrogen fuel: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energ...rogen.html

The icing on the cake: the consortium of green hydrogen producers says we can expect to see $2/kg hydrogen in just four years' time.

"From an industry perspective, we see no technical barriers to achieving this, so it's time to get on with the virtuous cycle of cost reduction through scale up. Having led the race to deliver photovoltaic energy at well-below US$2 cents per kilowatt-hour, in certain geographies, we believe the collective ingenuity and entrepreneurship of the private sector can deliver green hydrogen at less than US$2 per kilogram within four years,'' "Paddy Padmanathan, CEO of ACWA Power, has declared.

Suddenly, seemingly overvalued hydrogen stocks such as Plug Power Inc. (NASDAQStick Out TongueLUG), Bloom Energy Corporation (NASDAQ:BE) and Ballard Power Systems (NASDAQ:BLDP) actually look like bargains.

Plug Power is up over 1,053% over the past 12 months; Bloom Energy stock has gained 563%, BLDP has rallied 217%, while FuelCell Energy (NASDAQ:FCEL) has racked up gains of 1,127% over the timeframe. Is it hyper-speculative? Yes. But it's also possible that we haven't seen the end of this yet.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Toyota isn't letting the EV trend pass it by as it was one of the front runners with their Prius.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news...pt-teaser/
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Zerosvn
Mar 24, 2021
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Duke, you had me at $2/kg of hydrogen. Hope that arrives before my 15k card expires. 😁
Fat chance though.

For those that say this car is slow, here's a POV of someone driving it on Ortega highway.

https://youtu.be/h8pW3oREmbQ

I wish he'd turn off ASC (fake engine sound). Fortunately, that's not an option on my XLE and the XLE is lighter so it's actually faster than the car in this video.
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zonedeal
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Not sure if this was shared. For those who purchased the car, if you are looking into ToyotaCare Plus extended maintenance plan. I was able to get the 6yr/65k miles package for 950 from an east coast Toyota dealer. Information is shared on the other mega SD thread about extended warranty and maintenance for cars. This is transferable for a fee and prorated refund available if you only used a portion of and decide to cancel it. The dealer I got the car was trying to sell me the same package for 1900. Considering the 30k/60k service alone cost around 900, this is a good deal if you plan to keep the car long term.
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h_c_i_a
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I am trying to get $5k off MSRP to get $33k OTD that some of you guys got. One dealer asked me to provide a quote with $5k dealer discount so he can try to price match. If anyone who got $33k OTD can send me your quote (with your personal info removed) privately, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
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sillylouie
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Quote from h_c_i_a :
I am trying to get $5k off MSRP to get $33k OTD that some of you guys got. One dealer asked me to provide a quote with $5k dealer discount so he can try to price match. If anyone who got $33k OTD can send me your quote (with your personal info removed) privately, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
I'd like a copy too if possible. TIA

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cao_nguyen2002
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Quote from h_c_i_a :
I am trying to get $5k off MSRP to get $33k OTD that some of you guys got. One dealer asked me to provide a quote with $5k dealer discount so he can try to price match. If anyone who got $33k OTD can send me your quote (with your personal info removed) privately, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
Dm me. I can provide one.
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StrongM4665
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Quote from sillylouie :
I'd like a copy too if possible. TIA
Me too
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Zerosvn
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Quote from zonedeal :
Not sure if this was shared. For those who purchased the car, if you are looking into ToyotaCare Plus extended maintenance plan. I was able to get the 6yr/65k miles package for 950 from an east coast Toyota dealer. Information is shared on the other mega SD thread about extended warranty and maintenance for cars. This is transferable for a fee and prorated refund available if you only used a portion of and decide to cancel it. The dealer I got the car was trying to sell me the same package for 1900. Considering the 30k/60k service alone cost around 900, this is a good deal if you plan to keep the car long term.
Thanks for sharing. Doh! I bought the maintenance package for 2k (6yrs, 100k miles though). Dang it. I think I can cancel and rebuy. I think they give you 30 days to remove it.
Last edited by PassiveX March 23, 2021 at 08:55 PM.
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brackis
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Quote from Knightshade :
One reason many don't realize that is it's factually untrue.

Certainly they get the majority of their batteries from 3rd parties right now, but they absolutely make their own as well

And are currently working to vastly scale up their own production, while also scaling up 3rd party purchases, because like all BEV makers, they are battery constrained in the face of larger demand than they can supply cars.

Same reason GM is building a joint battery factory right now with another already on the drawing board.... and same reason VW just announced plans for a number of battery factories as well.


Toyota has the opposite problem with their fuel cell boondoggle- more cars than demand...hence why they're practically giving them away at this point.
Ah yes the residental Tesla shill fanboi here to assure us that they have a few prototype batteries while continuing to sign new contracts with Panasonic, LG Chem [cnbc.com] and CAT for the half million cars they claim to sell each year.

You are so desperate for a dream and so deep in the cult that you're lurking a Toyato thread ready to white knight for your god Musk and whatever stock holdings you have.
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zonedeal
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Quote from PassiveX :
Thanks for sharing. Doh! I bought the maintenance package for 2k (6yrs, 100k miles though). Dang it. I think I can cancel and rebuy. I think they give you 30 days to remove it.
I think your price should be good. The 6yr/100k option I was quoted 1875. Likely because that includes the major fuel cell filter service at 90k.
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Zerosvn
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Quote from zonedeal :
I think your price should be good. The 6yr/100k option I was quoted 1875. Likely because that includes the major fuel cell filter service at 90k.
OK cool. My finance guy did mention something about fuel cell filter. I didn't know what it was but it seems expensive. Now, do I want 6yr/75k extended warranty for under 1k? Hrmm...it really is a nice car I'd like to keep for 6yrs.
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namx
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Quote from zonedeal :
Not sure if this was shared. For those who purchased the car, if you are looking into ToyotaCare Plus extended maintenance plan. I was able to get the 6yr/65k miles package for 950 from an east coast Toyota dealer. Information is shared on the other mega SD thread about extended warranty and maintenance for cars. This is transferable for a fee and prorated refund available if you only used a portion of and decide to cancel it. The dealer I got the car was trying to sell me the same package for 1900. Considering the 30k/60k service alone cost around 900, this is a good deal if you plan to keep the car long term.
thanks for the tip. Does anyone know how long after the purchase you can buy the extended maintenance plan?

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Zerosvn
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Quote from namx :
thanks for the tip. Does anyone know how long after the purchase you can buy the extended maintenance plan?
I don't know about Toyota but for my Nissan, the limit was no more than 3k miles on your car. For the Mirai, my finance guy told me I could come back later and he will hook me up with a deal on warranty. Umm... Yeah, sure.

Btw, here's the warranty thread: https://slickdeals.net/e/8771643-auto-truck-suv-extended-warranty-master-thread-all-vehicles-feb-2021

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