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homedepot has better pricing for MiracleGro soil starting 4/8.
Its a straight $2 per bag. Much better than BOGO of lowes and $ 2.14 'net' price of lowes
Slickdeal mulch posts are always the same - someone complaining about debris in their mulch, washed away color, etc. As discussed in this thread, all mulch is regional, Home Depot and Lowes has suppliers all over the country, for both their store brand and name brand mulches. In some areas you get tree stumps, most areas you get shredded pallets, and most places you get C&D (construction and demolition debris - basically, lumber from demoed buildings). it's a bit of the luck of the draw. Pallet and C&D is better at retaining color, because it is dry; grounds stumps, etc. have higher moisture content and don't hold color as well. C&D stuff is the one that will have the most debris (and potentially toxic material). All dyes are essentially the same - either iron oxide or carbon dye (like newspaper ink). I've gotten good mulch and bad mulch from lowes, HD and my local landscape company. There is no consistency - but check one bag, because there will be consistency within a pallet, as the source will usually be the same.
This mulch is regional, so what you get in MI might not be what you'd get in CA or NY.
Prop65 is basically meaningless[wsj.com]. A "Prop 65" label is attached to just about everything for fear of being sued. So congratulations CA, for passing a great "cry wolf" law that rendered itself moot by virtue of its existence.
I have used this for years and the colors stay longer than any I have ever bought. As for safety. I throw peanuts down for my squirrels and they are all fine and I have a niece from Florida who is 3 and likes to eat the red stuff. But then again, she is like my Labrador and will eat anything she can put in her mouth. So what if her IQ drops a bit by the time she gets to high school. She's going to be living in Florida, she don't need no edumacation. She will still have a higher IQ than her parents.
mulch is sourced regionally. I have been using this mulch for years in midwest and it has been just like any other mulch be it Virgo or Scotts that go on the same sale.
I've had the same experience in Ohio. Never had a real issue with it or what HD sells. I have switched to bulk mulch just a personal preferece due to the number of bags I would need.
Lol people bashing California and prop 65. It's a state trying to protect your dumb @$ses from companies like Monsanto (round up). Personally, I appreciate the warnings even if it's excessive so I know when I need to use a little extra precautions (I.e making sure I'm not too lazy to throw on some garden gloves when working with some of these lawn products).
Way too many ignorant people in this county which is why companies get away with stuff
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Lol people bashing California and prop 65. It's a state trying to protect your dumb @$ses from companies like Monsanto (round up). Personally, I appreciate the warnings even if it's excessive so I know when I need to use a little extra precautions (I.e making sure I'm not too lazy to throw on some garden gloves when working with some of these lawn products).
Way too many ignorant people in this county which is why companies get away with stuff
Prop65, for those that don't live in CA (but probably see the labels anyway):
Formally known as the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986[latimes.com], it requires businesses with 10 or more employees to warn the people when they may be exposed to any of about 850 chemicals that are confirmed or suspected carcinogens, regardless of whether that particular exposure might be dangerous.
The issue with the law is threefold:
- the bar for "harm" is so obscenely low that virtually everything falls under its warnings (such as all roasted coffee and balsamic vinegar)
- the number of chemicals it lists is gigantic (over 1000), compounding the above - and many of those chemicals are found in things that we consume every day and have for centuries.
- there's incentive to gold-dig and report products/companies that are caught not issuing a label (several firms have netted over $1MM poking around trying to find products that might violate the law)
What does that mean? EVERYTHING has a Prop65 label[latimes.com]. In short, it's just easier to slap a label on something and protect yourself than do any sort of analysis to be sure the product doesn't fall under the law. When everything has a warning label on it, the warning has basically been rendered moot.
"But Proposition 65 warnings have become such a common sight in the Golden State — in parking lots, hotels, office buildings, amusement parks and gas stations, to name a few places — that they're not so attention-grabbing any more.
This defeats the purpose of Proposition 65, which was conceived as a way to alert consumers to when they may be exposed to lead and other dangerous chemicals — and spur companies to use fewer of them. The lawsuits authorized by the law, however, have prompted businesses to post prophylactic warnings regardless of the severity of the risk."
"Every dry cleaner, every restaurant you walk in has a Prop 65 warning in the window," says Tom Houston, who helped draft the initial bill as chief deputy to then-Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley. "Everybody just ignores that. The major purposes have all been established. The major bad chemicals are off the market, the major bad actors have been corralled by the initiative. Now this is getting down to be almost ridiculous[vox.com]."
And mulch? Considering that the feedstock for mulch is varied, and there's zero negative behind putting a Prop65 label on the product and significant possible downsides if they don't - that's why the label's there.
hah you will find prop 65 warning basically on everything down to a bag of bread so if that's your concern, you will end up living in a bubble
while I agree, my issue here is that you have no idea what's in the mulch.
If you look at a $4-$6 bag of mulch it probably has an MSC certification and alot of them specifically say no pallets or construction debris. The prop 65 on this bag mentions silica dust. My guess is that's because this mulch does contain construction debris and therefore a small possibility of silica dust.
Do I think you're going to get cancer from silica dust in mulch? absolutely not but it does tell you this probably has construction debris in it.
while I agree, my issue here is that you have no idea what's in the mulch.
If you look at a $4-$6 bag of mulch it probably has an MSC certification and alot of them specifically say no pallets or construction debris. The prop 65 on this bag mentions silica dust. My guess is that's because this mulch does contain construction debris and therefore a small possibility of silica dust.
Do I think you're going to get cancer from silica dust in mulch? absolutely not but it does tell you this probably has construction debris in it.
so $4-$6 "probably" have MSC certification....conjectures are fun.
The other explanation for silica, AKA silicon oxide, is that it is outdoor product. Silica is what makes up most of your common sand.....thank god for Prop 65 to warn you of that
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Prop65 is basically meaningless [wsj.com]. A "Prop 65" label is attached to just about everything for fear of being sued. So congratulations CA, for passing a great "cry wolf" law that rendered itself moot by virtue of its existence.
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Oh and for the haters please make a big deal out of me being cheap and wanting to save 23 cents...
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Oh and for the haters please make a big deal out of me being cheap and wanting to save 23 cents...
Well if you're doing a large area and buying thousands..... 23 cents adds up
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Way too many ignorant people in this county which is why companies get away with stuff
Oh and for the haters please make a big deal out of me being cheap and wanting to save 23 cents...
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank Dr. J
Way too many ignorant people in this county which is why companies get away with stuff
Formally known as the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986 [latimes.com], it requires businesses with 10 or more employees to warn the people when they may be exposed to any of about 850 chemicals that are confirmed or suspected carcinogens, regardless of whether that particular exposure might be dangerous.
The issue with the law is threefold:
- the bar for "harm" is so obscenely low that virtually everything falls under its warnings (such as all roasted coffee and balsamic vinegar)
- the number of chemicals it lists is gigantic (over 1000), compounding the above - and many of those chemicals are found in things that we consume every day and have for centuries.
- there's incentive to gold-dig and report products/companies that are caught not issuing a label (several firms have netted over $1MM poking around trying to find products that might violate the law)
What does that mean? EVERYTHING has a Prop65 label [latimes.com]. In short, it's just easier to slap a label on something and protect yourself than do any sort of analysis to be sure the product doesn't fall under the law. When everything has a warning label on it, the warning has basically been rendered moot.
"But Proposition 65 warnings have become such a common sight in the Golden State — in parking lots, hotels, office buildings, amusement parks and gas stations, to name a few places — that they're not so attention-grabbing any more.
This defeats the purpose of Proposition 65, which was conceived as a way to alert consumers to when they may be exposed to lead and other dangerous chemicals — and spur companies to use fewer of them. The lawsuits authorized by the law, however, have prompted businesses to post prophylactic warnings regardless of the severity of the risk."
"Every dry cleaner, every restaurant you walk in has a Prop 65 warning in the window," says Tom Houston, who helped draft the initial bill as chief deputy to then-Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley. "Everybody just ignores that. The major purposes have all been established. The major bad chemicals are off the market, the major bad actors have been corralled by the initiative. Now this is getting down to be almost ridiculous [vox.com]."
And mulch? Considering that the feedstock for mulch is varied, and there's zero negative behind putting a Prop65 label on the product and significant possible downsides if they don't - that's why the label's there.
If you look at a $4-$6 bag of mulch it probably has an MSC certification and alot of them specifically say no pallets or construction debris. The prop 65 on this bag mentions silica dust. My guess is that's because this mulch does contain construction debris and therefore a small possibility of silica dust.
Do I think you're going to get cancer from silica dust in mulch? absolutely not but it does tell you this probably has construction debris in it.
If you look at a $4-$6 bag of mulch it probably has an MSC certification and alot of them specifically say no pallets or construction debris. The prop 65 on this bag mentions silica dust. My guess is that's because this mulch does contain construction debris and therefore a small possibility of silica dust.
Do I think you're going to get cancer from silica dust in mulch? absolutely not but it does tell you this probably has construction debris in it.
The other explanation for silica, AKA silicon oxide, is that it is outdoor product. Silica is what makes up most of your common sand.....thank god for Prop 65 to warn you of that
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