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2-Count Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch Starter Kit

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Amazon has 2-Count Lutron Caseta Wireless Deluxe Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch Starter Kit (P-BDG-PKG2W-A) on sale for $131.90. Shipping is free.

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Amazon has 2-Count Lutron Caseta Wireless Deluxe Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch Starter Kit (P-BDG-PKG2W-A) on sale for $131.90. Shipping is free.

Target has 2-Count Lutron Caseta Wireless Deluxe Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch Starter Kit (P-BDG-PKG2W-A) on sale for $131.90. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BrokenHome for finding this deal.

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Written by oceanlake
  • About this deal:
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.
  • About this product:
    • This smart lighting kit has received an average rating of 4.8 stars out of 5 based on over 1,400 Amazon customer reviews.
  • About this store:
    • Amazon offers free returns for this item. You can return the item for any reason in new and unused condition: no shipping charges.
    • Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
    • If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.

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Note #1:
These switches do not have/ need a neutral wire. This makes wiring easier and more complicated at the same time. When a smart switch lacks a neutral that means it's always on, but at "off" the voltage regulation/ PWM is reduced to a level below what is required to turn on the light bulb(s) therefore they appear off. You might like to know that its still "on" when you go to change out a bulb and the fixture is still hot--really just an FYI.

Note #2:
This kit is not meant for track/ DC/ magnetic ballast lighting. Only listed dimmable LED's, halogens, incandescents, and CFL's.

Note #3:
These dimmer switches cannot control a ceiling fan. You need model number PD-FSQN-xx for that which is, naturally, sold separately.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07N1GXM38

Note #4:
Similar to Philips, Lutron uses a bridge to keep all of this crap off of your home wifi network. It doesn't need to be hogging resources (TP-Link) and "sniffing/ checking in" (wink wink, China) like other brands do. If you plan to convert multiple switches to smart switches, it makes the most sense to use a bridged system as an intermediary. Bonus points if you put your bridge(s) on their own subnet isolated from your laptops, tablets, and phones. Your other wifi devices will thank you.

Note #5:
Whether you buy at Amazon or pricematch at Best Buy or Lowes, pay with your Visa Signature/ Platinum or Amex to get the +1 year warranty for consumer electronics. Discover ended this benefit a few years ago and I don't know if Paypal ever offered it. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself could elaborate in the comments if any other common credit cards still offer the extended warranty benefit. Thanks in advance.

9,200+ views, 25 deal upvotes, and no reps? Come on guys. Throw me a bone.
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FYI: There is a mechanical "hidden" switch at the very bottom of the controls that allow one to open by pulling it outwards using a nail/finger. Then you can safely change out any bulbs with zero voltage in the light fixtures. But of course it's safest to shut off the power via the circuit breaker at the electrical panel.
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For clarity, Caseta does NOT use zwave. Lutron uses their "Clear Connect" protocol which operates ~430MHz whereas zwave is ~900MHz
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Quote from KSilver2000 View quoted comment :
This isn't much a deal considering you can get the single set (P-BDG-PKG1W) for $68.
It's not a bad deal--especially if math is your friend... $68 * 2 = $136. That option comes from a shady vendor with likely no warranty (if you care about such things). Real Amazon sells that item for $80 (price hidden [amazon.com]) so $80 *2 =$160 plus two bridges to sell. The $132 option comes with a single bridge to do with as you please. Sell the bridge like new on ebay if you wish.

Buying the combo on ebay should completely invalidate any warranty claim you may ever have. Luckily there's never been a Chinese knockoff on ebay or from Amazon vendors [lmgtfy.app]. Definitely a good idea for electrical devices hardwired into your home's electrical system on 24 hours per day whether you're home or not. Food for thought.
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KSilver2000Apr 12, 2021 1:42 PM
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Quote from BrokenHome View quoted comment :
It's not a bad deal--especially if math is your friend... $68 * 2 = $136. That option comes with NO bridge to use, donate, or resell. The $132 option comes with a bridge to do with as you please. Sell the bridge for $40 like new on ebay and your net cost is down to $46 each.

Buying the combo on ebay should completely invalidate any warranty claim you may ever have. Definitely a good idea for electrical devices hardwired into your home's electrical system on 24 hours per day whether you're home or not. Food for thought.
I'm not talking about just switches. If you look at the model number I was referring to, it comes with the hub. So, you're getting 2 hubs, 2 dimmers and 2 remotes for $136. And, I wasn't referring to buying on eBay. I bought that set from Amazon. Right now, it looks like it's the same $68 price but from two other vendors, still fulfilled by Amazon though.

BTW, regarding warranty, if you bought say a few dozen switches from both dealers and non-dealers, are you keeping track of each and every switch to show which one has valid proof of warranty if you need to make a claim on one? Not that one needs to with Lutron. I have yet to have a single Lutron switch/hub go bad in over 5 years, and I've installed probably close to 100 switches by now in many homes. On the other hand, with Leviton, I've had their smart switches only last 2-3 years on average. Will never use Leviton smart switches again. Either case, I've never had any switch from either brand go bad during the 1 year warranty period.
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Quote from WhatIsSlicking View quoted comment :
Only reason I don't endorse eBay route is warranty. I installed about 25-30 of these and did have issue with I think 2 of them. I wish I didn't order some from eBay for this very reason.
How do you know that those two that failed were from the lot you bought from eBay? With a couple dozen switches, any person would have a tough time remembering where a particular one was purchased from.
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WhatIsSlickingApr 12, 2021 1:52 PM
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Quote from KSilver2000 View quoted comment :
How do you know that those two that failed were from the lot you bought from eBay? With a couple dozen switches, any person would have a tough time remembering where a particular one was purchased from.
Because they ones I ordered were the on/off ones the ones requiring a neutral.

But now that I remember getting rid of the red led was a matter of improper wiring I think. We did eventually resolve it after putting the load manager part or so.

dimmers are trouble free and very easy installation cuz of no neutral.
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timofcourseApr 12, 2021 1:56 PM
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Current (and long time) SmartThings user here. Can anyone speak to personal experience on how this compares?

I have been pretty frustrated lately with the increased delays in response time and have seen the Caseta system come up regularly as a solid competitor. I do have have about 20 z-wave devices, which I believe can't be used with the Caseta bridge. Wondering if it's that much better to warrant a replacement.
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Quote from WhatIsSlicking View quoted comment :
Beat in the game. Reliability, no dependence on your WiFi network. These communicate over zwave.

Also can add multiple homes/businesses

I believe limit is 75 devices on the hub due to update in last year.
For clarity, Caseta does NOT use zwave. Lutron uses their "Clear Connect" protocol which operates ~430MHz whereas zwave is ~900MHz
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NathanN4958Apr 12, 2021 2:02 PM
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Quote from McWetty View quoted comment :
Of note: if you're in it for the switches and remotes only, eBay frequently has the combo for $40-50 each with free shipping. I tried to sell my hub last year and only managed to get $20 for it. May end up being cheaper via eBay.
Agreed. I did my whole house (30+ switches) and bought all on ebay. Saved me a fortune
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Quote from timofcourse View quoted comment :
Current (and long time) SmartThings user here. Can anyone speak to personal experience on how this compares?

I have been pretty frustrated lately with the increased delays in response time and have seen the Caseta system come up regularly as a solid competitor. I do have have about 20 z-wave devices, which I believe can't be used with the Caseta bridge. Wondering if it's that much better to warrant a replacement.
I have smarthings and caseta. I have so many issues with z-wave things popping up, an update breaking something, etc. I haven't had to touch my caseta setup since I installed. Truly just works.
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NathanN4958Apr 12, 2021 2:05 PM
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Quote from WhatIsSlicking View quoted comment :
Because they ones I ordered were the on/off ones the ones requiring a neutral.

But now that I remember getting rid of the red led was a matter of improper wiring I think. We did eventually resolve it after putting the load manager part or so.

dimmers are trouble free and very easy installation cuz of no neutral.
Yes, you'll get a red led if improperly wired, or of you have too low of load on switches. Lutrol sells a part specifically for this which fixed my similar issues!
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240SXFANApr 12, 2021 2:15 PM
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Same switch was 97 bucks in October.
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cprazyjoezxApr 12, 2021 2:19 PM
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Just to clarify this is two hard wired switches (to control two sets of lights) but the two wireless switches, are just remotes for the hardware ones? If I need to do 6 light switches to the house, I'm going to end up with a drawer filled of lutron remotes. 🤷🏻 ♂️
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Same switch was 97 bucks in October.
Let's find a deal on a DeLorean so we can go back to October to go get it! Wink
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Quote from cprazyjoezx View quoted comment :
Just to clarify this is two hard wired switches (to control two sets of lights) but the two wireless switches, are just remotes for the hardware ones? If I need to do 6 light switches to the house, I'm going to end up with a drawer filled of lutron remotes. 🤷🏻 ♂️
If the switches you're replacing are just single pole (on/off) or single pole dimmers, then yes. You'll have a box of remotes that are ebay ready. If any of your switches are 3-way then you would either keep the remote on your end-side table or mount it in the 3-way switch's junction box using one of these brackets:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JZRAFEA
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darkmeridianApr 12, 2021 2:32 PM
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The Lutron Casetas are probably the best smart dimmers on the market today in terms of reliability, compatibility, and not needing a neutral wire in the switch box. If you do not have a neutral, then there has to be a minimum load in the fixture. (It's 25 watts.) If you don't have that minimum load, then the switch will not work. In that case, you need to install the LUT-MLC, which you just wire into the fixture. The LUT-MLC will create resistance to bring the load up to the minimum. No matter what, use good bulbs that are really dimmable. I would recommend Phillips or Cree. I haven't had luck with Feit lights from Costco. They flicker and go in and out and all those problems went away when I switched to Phillips and Cree.

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