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Apr 13, 2021 1:13 AM

ZWILLING Pro 2-pc "The Perfect Pair" Knife Set (7" chef and 7" santoku) $99.95

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Great set from renowned knife manufacturer. This is the pro line of forged knives. These are made in Germany, not the "international" version that are made in China or India.

Includes:
- 7" chef's knife
- 7" rocking santoku knife

https://www.target.com/p/zwilling...A-76793221
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Great set from renowned knife manufacturer. This is the pro line of forged knives. These are made in Germany, not the "international" version that are made in China or India.

Includes:
- 7" chef's knife
- 7" rocking santoku knife

https://www.target.com/p/zwilling...A-76793221

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Apr 13, 2021 1:17 AM
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jokercard906
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Apr 13, 2021 1:17 AM
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Good price. I paid $38 for the 7" Rocking Santoku so this pair is a decent value.
Apr 13, 2021 1:25 AM
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superkaz661Apr 13, 2021 1:25 AM
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"Special Formula Steel".

Yeah, no thanks. Yes, I know I'm a steel snob, but if you aren't going to tell me what it is, I'm assuming it's worse than 4116.
Apr 13, 2021 1:56 AM
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FuschiaScene411Apr 13, 2021 1:56 AM
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Quote from superkaz661 View quoted comment :
"Special Formula Steel".

Yeah, no thanks. Yes, I know I'm a steel snob, but if you aren't going to tell me what it is, I'm assuming it's worse than 4116.
It's X50CrMoV15
Apr 13, 2021 2:58 PM
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bigal80akApr 13, 2021 2:58 PM
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its seems that 4116 and X50CrMoV15 are almost the same in terms of quality
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Apr 13, 2021 7:12 PM
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pfk1
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Apr 13, 2021 7:12 PM
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Found this online:

X50CrMoV15- stainless steel
X50CrMoV15 is the most commonly used stainless steel type for kitchen knives by a.o. German manufacturers. It is a good steel type for a very wide public. The rust resistance is high and the cutting characteristics are perfect.
Excellent for family use and professional use where not everyone is careful with the knives. For info: X stands for stainless, 50 for 0.50% carbon and 15 for 15% Chrome. In addition the steel contains small quantities of Molybdene and Vanadium to improve the grain structure and durability.

Available knives in this steel: Our Eden Essentials knives, all Wüsthof knives except Silverpoint, All knives by Zwilling J.A. Henckels (except 1731, Miyabi and Twin Cermax and the Damask knives) and Robert Herder RVS knives.

Source: https://www.knivesandtools.com/en...knives.htm

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1.4116 - W-Nr standard name of the X50CrMoV15 steel, which is a DIN standard name. See X50CrMoV15 steel.

X50CrMoV15 - German steel. Very stain resistant. Other than that not much to speak of. The cryptic X50CrMoV15 stands for 0.5% carbon, the other 15% is composed of 14% or 14.5% of Cr, some Mo and V. X in the name is a an indicator for high alloy steel, 0.5% C content means, by definition X50CrMoV15 isn't a high carbon steel, despite of some marketing claims. In fact it has less C content compared to 440C steel. However, it's plenty tough and resists corrosion well and it is a high alloy steel. If you don't want to bother maintaining your knives this is a good choice. Except for the low edge holding ability of course. In the end, you end up sharpening it a lot more often, so low maintenance statement is really arguable. Used by Wusthof, Victorinox and others in their high end knives. Ref - X50CrMoV15 Steel Composition. If you are interested, you can also read up on DIN And EN Steel Standards Naming Conventions.

X55CrMoV15 - Variation of 1.4116 steel. Pretty much the same, except for the slightly higher C content - 0.55%. Used by Messermeister. Not sure who else uses it. You can see the detailed differences in composition on this X55CrMoV15 vs. X50CrMoV15 steel composition comparison graph.

source: http://zknives.com/knives/kitchen...elp2.shtml
Last edited by pfk1 April 13, 2021 at 12:22 PM.
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Apr 13, 2021 7:23 PM
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Quote from bigal80ak View quoted comment :
its seems that 4116 and X50CrMoV15 are almost the same in terms of quality
I believe they're one and the same based on some research I did. See comment below!

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