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Apr 14, 2021 6:34 PM

DEWALT 7-Tool 20V MAX LI-ION Cordless Power Tool Combo Kit with Soft Case (Charger Included and (2) 2.0Ah Batteries Included) $399

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Lowe's and amazon has this 7 tool dewalt Powertool max for $399
Not sure if the list price is accurate but it is listed at $679

Combo kit includes DCD780 20 V MAX 1/2-in cordless drill, DCF885 20 V MAX cordless impact driver, DCG412 20 V cordless angle grinder, DCS393 20 V MAX circular saw, DCS381 20 V MAX reciprocating saw, DCL040 handheld flashlight, DCR006 portable speaker

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-7...1000295453
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Lowe's and amazon has this 7 tool dewalt Powertool max for $399
Not sure if the list price is accurate but it is listed at $679

Combo kit includes DCD780 20 V MAX 1/2-in cordless drill, DCF885 20 V MAX cordless impact driver, DCG412 20 V cordless angle grinder, DCS393 20 V MAX circular saw, DCS381 20 V MAX reciprocating saw, DCL040 handheld flashlight, DCR006 portable speaker

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-7...1000295453

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Apr 14, 2021 7:29 PM
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roqboy
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Apr 14, 2021 7:29 PM
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If this is a bad deal, can someone please help me understand why? Wanted to buy but maybe not?
Apr 14, 2021 8:22 PM
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pzmosquitoApr 14, 2021 8:22 PM
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I think this is decent price. HD has it for >$500. You will probably need a few bigger batteries if you use them a lot.
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Apr 14, 2021 8:46 PM
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cdmccApr 14, 2021 8:46 PM
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Quote from roqboy View quoted comment :
If this is a bad deal, can someone please help me understand why? Wanted to buy but maybe not?
Some will disregard it straight away for being all brushed but your intended usage will determine whether or not that is important to you. If it is consider spending a little more and getting a slightly different selection in brushless:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-2...5001642359

For myself, I'd get more use out of an oscillating tool compared to an angle grinder but everyone's needs are different. But I agree with @pzmosquito you'll likely want to pick up some 5ah (or greater) batteries at some point.
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Apr 14, 2021 9:41 PM
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ruouttaurmindApr 14, 2021 9:41 PM
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Quote from roqboy View quoted comment :
If this is a bad deal, can someone please help me understand why? Wanted to buy but maybe not?
If you expect to have a need for each tool, and don't mind that they're brushed and not brushless motors, then it's a fair price. I concur with the others... the circular saw and grinder will eat 2ah batteries in very short order (like a couple minutes) so bigger batteries will be useful soonish.

IF, however, you only expect to use two or three of the tools... for pretty close to the same price ($400) you could piece together the stuff you actually have a need for, in brushless XR level tools, and probably wind up with more or larger batteries. Just food for thought.

As an example, there was a deal posted yesterday for a brushless drill/impact driver kit for $160, and in the replies I pointed to a better option XR brushless drill/impact driver kit with larger batteries for $200. So for half the money or less you could have two of the represented (and most commonly used) tools in brushless versions. Also, Home Depot sometimes features the Dewalt Atomic drill/impact driver combo for $200ish bundled with your choice of a third free tool. Deals are frequently available on Dewalt tools with a little patience and only a little effort, and the end result would be a "kit" with upgraded tools matching exactly your needs for very close to the same $400 price of admission.
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Quote from ruouttaurmind View quoted comment :
If you expect to have a need for each tool, and don't mind that they're brushed and not brushless motors, then it's a fair price. I concur with the others... the circular saw and grinder will eat 2ah batteries in very short order (like a couple minutes) so bigger batteries will be useful soonish.

IF, however, you only expect to use two or three of the tools... for pretty close to the same price ($400) you could piece together the stuff you actually have a need for, in brushless XR level tools, and probably wind up with more or larger batteries. Just food for thought.

As an example, there was a deal posted yesterday for a brushless drill/impact driver kit for $160, and in the replies I pointed to a better option XR brushless drill/impact driver kit with larger batteries for $200. So for half the money or less you could have two of the represented (and most commonly used) tools in brushless versions. Also, Home Depot sometimes features the Dewalt Atomic drill/impact driver combo for $200ish bundled with your choice of a third free tool. Deals are frequently available on Dewalt tools with a little patience and only a little effort, and the end result would be a "kit" with upgraded tools matching exactly your needs for very close to the same $400 price of admission.
Thanks for your thorough response! I watched a video on YouTube of this remodel guy I like and he recommended 6 tools a homeowner needs and about 4 of them are in this kit! So I was excited.

I don't know the difference really between brushed and brushless. I'm purchasing a house that needs work and hoping to do some things myself like demo kitchen, crown molding, some cabinet installation and such... would you suggest investing in brushless for this type of work?
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Apr 15, 2021 3:07 PM
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Quote from cdmcc View quoted comment :
Some will disregard it straight away for being all brushed but your intended usage will determine whether or not that is important to you. If it is consider spending a little more and getting a slightly different selection in brushless:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-2...5001642359

For myself, I'd get more use out of an oscillating tool compared to an angle grinder but everyone's needs are different. But I agree with @pzmosquito you'll likely want to pick up some 5ah (or greater) batteries at some point.
Thank you! I was watching a YouTube video and they said you can get a lot out of a grinder... so that was my thought, haha. Does brushless make a huge difference in your opinion if I'm just a first time home owner trying to do little DIY projects here and there?
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ruouttaurmindApr 15, 2021 4:08 PM
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Quote from roqboy View quoted comment :
I don't know the difference really between brushed and brushless. I'm purchasing a house that needs work and hoping to do some things myself like demo kitchen, crown molding, some cabinet installation and such... would you suggest investing in brushless for this type of work?
Brushless motors are more efficient in their use of power (= longer runtime on a single battery charge). Brushless, as the name implies, don't have brushes in the motor which will wear out over time (= longer service life for your tool investment). Some will claim brushless tools are more powerful as well, but in reality for a handheld power tool that difference is negligible.

The projects you've described are ideal candidates for better quality tools (ie: brushless XR tools). Also, don't disregard the inherent value of corded tools for select platforms. For example a corded circular saw and/or miter saw might be a good fit in your use case. A quality corded circular saw is half the price of cordless versions, have more power, unlimited runtime with no battery to worry about. For crown molding you definitely want to invest in a better quality corded miter saw and probably a cordless or pneumatic nailer/stapler. Then use those tools for the wainscoting project in the den. 😉👍🏻
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Apr 15, 2021 5:37 PM
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cdmccApr 15, 2021 5:37 PM
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Quote from roqboy View quoted comment :
Thank you! I was watching a YouTube video and they said you can get a lot out of a grinder... so that was my thought, haha. Does brushless make a huge difference in your opinion if I'm just a first time home owner trying to do little DIY projects here and there?
I agree with everything that's been said by others but ultimately your specific uses will dictate what's best for you. I know that's not very helpful being new to it and not fully understanding what you'll need until you start doing it. An oscillating tool seems like a no-brainer when fixing up a house...I know it was for me. But again, everyone's uses are different. One thing is certain: you'll have both a grinder and an oscillating tool in your collection at some point.

Regarding the endless brushed vs brushless debate...if in 2021 I started my tool collection I'd make a point to choose the brushless option if at all possible for one reason: longevity. I'm not super concerned with battery life as I'm always near a charger and I can swap easily. But to know I (likely) won't have to replace a tool for a while because it's designed to minimize mechanical wear and tear...that's the main point for me. I say that not as someone who's had to replace a bunch of brushed or having been disappointed in some way with my brushed tools, they just weren't an affordable option when I started buying. They're much more affordable in 2021. I agree with the power differences generally being negligible.
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Quote from cdmcc View quoted comment :
I agree with everything that's been said by others but ultimately your specific uses will dictate what's best for you. I know that's not very helpful being new to it and not fully understanding what you'll need until you start doing it. An oscillating tool seems like a no-brainer when fixing up a house...I know it was for me. But again, everyone's uses are different. One thing is certain: you'll have both a grinder and an oscillating tool in your collection at some point.

Regarding the endless brushed vs brushless debate...if in 2021 I started my tool collection I'd make a point to choose the brushless option if at all possible for one reason: longevity. I'm not super concerned with battery life as I'm always near a charger and I can swap easily. But to know I (likely) won't have to replace a tool for a while because it's designed to minimize mechanical wear and tear...that's the main point for me. I say that not as someone who's had to replace a bunch of brushed or having been disappointed in some way with my brushed tools, they just weren't an affordable option when I started buying. They're much more affordable in 2021. I agree with the power differences generally being negligible.
While there are other benefits of brushless, it could be argued that brushed tools will have better longevity than brushless because brushless requires much more complicated circuit boards to handle the power switching.

You'd have to use a quality brushed tool several hours a day, day-in day-out, for many years before wearing out its brushes - and even then it is typically a cheap, quick, and easy job to replace them.
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Quote from jeff34270 View quoted comment :
While there are other benefits of brushless, it could be argued that brushed tools will have better longevity than brushless because brushless requires much more complicated circuit boards to handle the power switching.

You'd have to use a quality brushed tool several hours a day, day-in day-out, for many years before wearing out its brushes - and even then it is typically a cheap, quick, and easy job to replace them.
Yeah, this a good point when dealing with brushless...you're introducing a computer to the equation and therefore another point of failure.

And to your point, my brushed tools are going strong many years. For anyone not a contractor there's a good chance your power tools will outlive any battery platform they're running on.
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dhishiApr 15, 2021 7:40 PM
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Yuk - stay away. Spend a little more for better quality. You won't regret. This how started with my 18v kit. After moving to 20v platform with brushless I realized what I was missing. I am just a diyer
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Yuk - stay away. Spend a little more for better quality. You won't regret. This how started with my 18v kit. After moving to 20v platform with brushless I realized what I was missing. I am just a diyer
You realize the difference between 18v and 20v platforms is marketing, right?

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