This is an updated version of previous Front Page deal.
Toyota is running a huge $20,000 discount on bland new Mirai, but at the same time local dealers are marking up the price from 2000 ~ 5000 depend on who (which dealer) you deal with
https://www.buyatoyota.com/socal/...apr_331250
The MSRP of the XLE model with the Technology Option is around $52,594.
From here you will get
1. $20,000 - Cash Toyota Discount
2. $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
3. $4,500 CA Tax Credit
4. $15,000 Fuel Card valid for up to 6 years
5. $0 ~ 5,000 Dealer mark up due to high demand
6. 0% Interest for up to 72 months
7. $400 worth Gift card or other gifts, etc.
The actual calculation will be like this
52,594 - 20,000 (Toyota Discount) + 2,000 (dealer mark up) + 4,500 (tax) + 800 (DMV fees, etc.) = 39,894 (Out the door) price
If you get 72 months finance, it will be $554.09 per month
From this price, you can get Item 2, 3, 4, 7 later so
39,894 - 8,000 - 4,500 - 15,000 - 400 = $11,994
The actual price of the car can be consider only $12,394
You can find the original post of this can be find at here
https://slickdeals.net/f/14904181-2021-toyota-mirai-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicle-la-sf-only-23108-or-less#comments
For the item 2, 3 you can check the original post
For the item 7. Please read next post to see more details.
The dealer will try to sell you additional warranty, etc. You can opt out those or add those options later.
This $20k off deal was going to expire on 3.31.21 but it was extended to until 05.03.21. We don't know if this will be extended again. I am guessing it might with less discount such as $15k.
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2020 the first gen was discontinued, and the 2nd gen wasn't on available until December.
There were no Mirais to sell for much of 2020. (plus- pandemic)
So 2021 sales NOT beating the hell of 2020, and pretty quickly, would've been hard to manage.
But if the Mirai had large, new, organic demand they wouldn't be having to give you $15000 in free fuel to take one.
FWIW most recent #s I can find (about 3 weeks old) show 9 new hydrogen stations under construction in all of CA.
I'm not aware of any retail stations under construction outside of CA, but I certainly could've missed one.
The moment you show where anybody ever claimed that I can debunk it.
You said this. Now you qualify it.
You said this. Now you qualify it.
Given it was about EVs (you can tell since I literally said EV credit- and also explicitly mentioned "charging network" there which would make NO SENSE otherwise) you still haven't shown where I claimed it was cheaper than a hydrogen vehicle.
I was instead pointing out Teslas, ex-EV credit, are comparably priced and have a better charging network (and the other benefits I mentioned plus more) compared to OTHER EVs that you'd CHARGE- like say the Mach E that you specifically listed along with various Teslas.
Sorry! Try again!
52.5k (negotiated down to 48k car + about 4.5k tax/registration/fees)
- 20k toyota rebate
- 8k federal tax credit
- 4.5 CA rebate
= 20k with 0APR over 72 months or about $278/month with 6 years of free fuel.
I'm getting about 350 miles per fuel up at the price of about $75 per fuel up. So a 15k fuel card should get about 200 fuel ups (at $75 each) for about 70,000 miles. Using a 35mpg gas car, 70k miles would require 2000 gallons of gasoline. Where I live, gas is about $4/gallon, thus the cost of gas is about 2000 gallons x $4 or $8000 over 6 years.
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Using the above numbers, it would be 20k - 8k = 12k or $167/month for 72 months. If the car has no value at the end of 72 months, so be it. Basically, I see it as a 6 year lease for $167 a month with no mileage limits, 3 years maintenance, and also 21 days of free rental.
(Not to mention that I would get the 4.5k CA rebate and the 8k tax credit in about a year, but I only need to spread out my payments over 72 months, so that's another minor win in my book)
That said, this car defintely isn't for the vast majority of the people out there. Only good for very specific individuals. But if anyone is interested knowing all that, message me if you're looking for a referral as we both will get a reward.
cheers!
edited: because I can't do math...
I was instead pointing out Teslas, ex-EV credit, are comparably priced and have a better charging network (and the other benefits I mentioned plus more) compared to OTHER EVs that you'd CHARGE- like say the Mach E that you specifically listed along with various Teslas.
Sorry! Try again!
If thats not what you said and its all a big misunderstanding then please clear the air and plainly state Teslas can't compare to this price. I humbly await your acknowledge so I can apologize.
They sold 715 in just March of 2020.
Source:
https://carfigures.com/us-market-...ota/mirai#
Yes, these posts and the hot deal helped pump the majority of those sales, but it looks like a lot more people know about and want the car. There's also quite a few sales of the limited model (extra $16k).
I would've bought this car even if it costs $33k without any other incentive. Before this I was looking at either a Lexus RX330 (too much money. For that money, might as well go for a Jaguar E-Pace/Range Rover), '21 Supra (fun car but also $56k+ for the model I want), and Genesis G70 (nice touring sedan with a bit of sportiness). The Mirai compares well vs all those cars except the RX.
I also looked at the Bolt due to the great lease deal, but ultimately, it's not the kind of car I want to drive. Driving, for me, isn't just getting from A to B. I spend on things I like, and I love driving this car.
My friend got a Mirai a few years ago and, same as the Bolt, I did a hard pass after seeing it.
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LOL indeed.
The Mirai has no plug in charging.
So it's impossible I was comparing to the Mirai.
I've explained it multiple times now.
I eagerly await said apology that I doubt is ever coming.
In theory there's stations that only sell commercially (I guess for the few dozen hydrogen buses in the whole state or whatever, or the imaginary fleet of commercial hydrogen trucks)
Retail means they sell to the general public.
EDIT- it's unclear from your post when you say "in permitting"- If you mean station already exists and is open, and is listed a a retail station on its permit, then ignore below:
I only bring it up because there's some "new" stations that have applied for permits but aren't actually being built yet- so if THAT is what you mean you might be waiting a while (or forever) for the station to exist.
They sold 715 in just March of 2020.
That's because, as explained already, the first gen car was discontinued last year- so they had no more to sell until the second gen came out.
Which wasn't until December of 2020.
There's always a sales dip when a previous gen ends, and sales spike when a new gen is released- for almost every car model ever.
(also, pandemic- nearly every brand other than Tesla saw massive sales declines in 2020 generally)
https://m.cafcp.org/content/fountain-valley-0
I hope other stations to be similar in the near future.
I wonder if we can help some more new buyers to join the team Mirai without too much mark up.
To summarize the history for the 2021
in early March, people could buy for MSRP - $3000 ~ 5000 discount but that is gone.
I bought mine for about MSRP about a week ago but the dealer didn't really want to sell to me since other people were paying around $3000 or more?
I am not sure, what is the current Out of door price?
For those who want to buy, what would be the best advise?
I would say, get a quote, but show unhappy face and walk off by saying that is too much markup.
They will call you back 90% with lower price, but still try to negotiate for more discount.
LOL indeed.
Given I specifically cited vehicle charging speed of the other vehicles it's clear to everyone from context I did no such thing
The Mirai has no plug in charging.
So it's impossible I was comparing to the Mirai.
I've explained it multiple times now.
I eagerly await said apology that I doubt is ever coming.
Since I was replying to you listing a bunch of plug in electric cars and I was pointing out a number of substantive differences (charging network being just one of them) between Tesla and the other brands you mentioned.
Then you have, once again, either mis-read, or are mis-representing, what was actually said
Seems to be a theme with you.
The Tesla I used in my example can go over 350 miles on the full charge it leaves the house with. A quick 15 minute charge on top can get you ANOTHER 180 miles.
In fact- that's what I actually mentioned.
That a single 15 minute stop gets you over 530 miles of driving.
And that unless you're peeing in a bottle and has way above average gas range, you're probably stopping that much anyway in a gas car for a 500+ mile drive.
(and in fact the majority of Teslas on YOUR list can do that, or more range wise)
And if you REALLY want something relevant to Hydrogen cars- you're probably not TAKING a 500 mile trip in one at all, since outside of going between a couple of very specific areas in California, you'd be stranded with no way to refuel after your initial tank was gone.
Probably why Toyota has to throw in some free car rental credits.
Since I was replying to you listing a bunch of plug in electric cars and I was pointing out a number of substantive differences (charging network being just one of them) between Tesla and the other brands you mentioned.
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Then you have, once again, either mis-read, or are mis-representing, what was actually said
Seems to be a theme with you.
The Tesla I used in my example can go over 350 miles on the full charge it leaves the house with. A quick 15 minute charge on top can get you ANOTHER 180 miles.
In fact- that's what I actually mentioned.
That a single 15 minute stop gets you over 530 miles of driving.
And that unless you're peeing in a bottle and has way above average gas range, you're probably stopping that much anyway in a gas car for a 500+ mile drive.
(and in fact the majority of Teslas on YOUR list can do that, or more range wise)
And if you REALLY want something relevant to Hydrogen cars- you're probably not TAKING a 500 mile trip in one at all, since outside of going between a couple of very specific areas in California, you'd be stranded with no way to refuel after your initial tank was gone.
Probably why Toyota has to throw in some free car rental credits.
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Then come the incentives. 7500 from the federal government (larger battery than the prius, sort of like the Volt, means bigger incentive and a decent 40-50 mile electric range). 2500 from California if you get the clean fuel reward and clean vehicle credits (be sure to check your dealership qualifies for the clean fuel reward first though!). 10000 in incentives effectively means your cost is 21000 otd.
This is more than some people calculate the Mirai to be. But essentially I'm getting a fully loaded Honda accord (again, "interesting" styling though is in the eye of the buyer as potential pitfall) for 21k. I can just ignore the electric bit and focus on the great hybrid mileage and roomy mid sized interior relative to my old, similarly priced elantra.
Anyways, just another option for folks looking at clean vehicle incentives. I was spurred into looking after seeing posts on SD about the prius prime. But I liked the clarity's range, size, and trim better for a similar price after incentives. And none of the hydrogen issues others are noting in this thread.
What dealership you went to?
MSPR for Honda Plug-in-hybrid is $33,400. If you can get $9K off, it wil be $24,400. Where did you get the $9K from?