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Model: ASUS VivoBook 15 F512DA-DB34 Laptop, 15.6" Full HD Screen, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U, 8GB, 128GB Solid State Drive, Windows 10 Home in S Mode
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TN screens are fine for laptops around $300, I guess....
I was going to say this was a good deal until I saw that it was TN. I got the $300 Gateway GWTN156 whose IPS was an upgrade from my old laptop and holy hell I am never going back, even with crappy brightness and crappy glossy coating.
I also went to MicroCenter recently to check out laptops and they had them all arranged in a neat line except for one which stood out like a sore thumb -- an Aspire 5 with a TN screen (they sold the only variant to have one afaik). I'm of the opinion you won't miss what you haven't had, but in the case of (well-made) IPS, you will love it when you first get it.
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It's and older chip put super solid performer for the average user.
I bought this exact thing from OD last year for the exact price to WFH and it has been more than enough for me once I upgraded the ram to 12 and added a second SSD to run power bi and video editing software.
I was lucky to use it with an external monitor because for a lot of people the deal breaker is the mediocre screen. For me It's not the resolution, but the "sparkly" anti glare coating and limited viewing angle . It's super distracting.
Given that this vivobook model is usually in this reduced price range during a sale for both the Ryzen and the intel models , depending on how badly you need it will determine how hot of a deal this is. For a standard office user , even these older ryzen 3 chips are solid performers compared to the athlons and celerons often offered in this price range.
I was going to say this was a good deal until I saw that it was TN. I got the $300 Gateway GWTN156 whose IPS was an upgrade from my old laptop and holy hell I am never going back, even with crappy brightness and crappy glossy coating.
I also went to MicroCenter recently to check out laptops and they had them all arranged in a neat line except for one which stood out like a sore thumb -- an Aspire 5 with a TN screen (they sold the only variant to have one afaik). I'm of the opinion you won't miss what you haven't had, but in the case of (well-made) IPS, you will love it when you first get it.
Have not brought a laptop in ages, what is an TN screen and what is the downside in this price range? thx
Anyone know what the difference between F512JA and F515JA is? I bought the F515JA from Amazon for $350 and they say F515JA is IPS (according to Asus, but reviews say that the screen is really bad and it can't possibly be IPS).
Also, nowhere did I find the information that this laptop has TN screen. Where did that info come from?
TN screens are fine for laptops around $300, I guess....
Yeah.. I bought a VivoBook and I was surprised at the screen's low quality.
I wish they hadn't stopped manufacturing glossy and semi-glossy screens, even the cheap ones performed better than TN
Have not brought a laptop in ages, what is an TN screen and what is the downside in this price range? thx
TN panels have significantly more narrow viewing angles compared to IPS panels so they get washed out if you view the screen a bit off angle, i.e. not directly head on.
I have this laptop (but with the Intel i3 processor) and can attest the screen is the worst part of the laptop, especially vertical viewing angles. That said, my wife and I find it perfectly acceptable for office work when you're not moving your head around a lot and using it indoors. It's even fine for some casual Netflix viewing. The 1080p resolution somewhat makes up for the TN panel. But if you're picky, you may want to look elsewhere for an IPS screen.
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I also went to MicroCenter recently to check out laptops and they had them all arranged in a neat line except for one which stood out like a sore thumb -- an Aspire 5 with a TN screen (they sold the only variant to have one afaik). I'm of the opinion you won't miss what you haven't had, but in the case of (well-made) IPS, you will love it when you first get it.
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I bought this exact thing from OD last year for the exact price to WFH and it has been more than enough for me once I upgraded the ram to 12 and added a second SSD to run power bi and video editing software.
I was lucky to use it with an external monitor because for a lot of people the deal breaker is the mediocre screen. For me It's not the resolution, but the "sparkly" anti glare coating and limited viewing angle . It's super distracting.
Given that this vivobook model is usually in this reduced price range during a sale for both the Ryzen and the intel models , depending on how badly you need it will determine how hot of a deal this is. For a standard office user , even these older ryzen 3 chips are solid performers compared to the athlons and celerons often offered in this price range.
I also went to MicroCenter recently to check out laptops and they had them all arranged in a neat line except for one which stood out like a sore thumb -- an Aspire 5 with a TN screen (they sold the only variant to have one afaik). I'm of the opinion you won't miss what you haven't had, but in the case of (well-made) IPS, you will love it when you first get it.
Also, nowhere did I find the information that this laptop has TN screen. Where did that info come from?
I wish they hadn't stopped manufacturing glossy and semi-glossy screens, even the cheap ones performed better than TN
I have this laptop (but with the Intel i3 processor) and can attest the screen is the worst part of the laptop, especially vertical viewing angles. That said, my wife and I find it perfectly acceptable for office work when you're not moving your head around a lot and using it indoors. It's even fine for some casual Netflix viewing. The 1080p resolution somewhat makes up for the TN panel. But if you're picky, you may want to look elsewhere for an IPS screen.
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