HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop: RTX 3060, AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 8GB DDR4, 512GB SSD Expired

my brother got a very similar computer like 2 months ago, the differences I can see are his had a 4600g and a 2060 super also had a larger psu 500 or 550w i think. he paid just under $1k after tax.

unsure of the 4600g vs 5600g performance but a 2060 super and a 3060 are very similar from what i found.

i would say the deal isn't bad, but it could also be better. I am pretty sure I have seen machines with 3070s for 1200.. however they almost instantly go oos and this is very infrequent. they do go for 1500 pretty often then and then typically have 16gb ram and r7 cpus.

IMO this is an average deal as it is with most Hp, Dell deals. The parts quality, performance, really will not impress anyone who has built themselves a custom pc with premium brand parts in the past, before all this covid, cryptomining nonsense that's got decent gpus like a 580x or even a 570 at affordable prices.
Is it decent? Yes. Is it worth all the $1100 they are asking for no, not really.
Again they use generic brand or lowest tier low reliability low reviewed parts to mass produce to maximize profit. See how it does not even specify what brand the 3060 is which is the strong selling point here.
If you have a system you can hold out on after all this covid and mining pc part bubble blows over just sit it out. Like if you can play Overwatch on 60 fps you're fine playing most AAA games anyways.
If you have money to burn or got leftover from stimulus sure why not. But with that money go to newegg or Amazon and pick parts put and put together your own with parts you love. Personally I'd stay away from these monotone mass production s bc they're the ones hogging the gpu supplies through connections with suppliers most likely which is driving prices up and keeping them there, like scalping. And these pics are terrible for upgrading. They solder parts or put in junk motherboards so you throw it away after three years and buy a new one. That's what they're betting on.

You don't need a bios update for a new video card. As long as it fits in the slot and your power supply supports the wattage, it will work.

Rather than blabbering so much and expressing your anger against these Pre-Built PCs, do some research. Can you show any review of these new Pre-Built PCs showing that they use lowest quality part? Instead you'll find that most of these Pre-Built PCs come with decent quality components. Since these components are made in bulk, these companies can cheap out in price without cheaping out in quality. And blabbering what it was before Vivid or the Crypto Boom and syating this is not a decent deal based on that kinda lame. Any deal is based on current scenario and pricing, not what it used to be. I've built a lot of PCs but that doesn't mean everyone likes it or really want to spend time for hunting parts. This is a very simple fact most of the "PC Building Master Race" folks don't understand.

It's pretty annoying when you're kind of at the edge. I am just starting to run into AAA games that don't run well enough for me, but they're playable (i7 7700, 1070). Cyberpunk ran in the 40s on low, for example. Was kind of thinking sometime between December 2020 and fall of 2021 I'd get a new card or whatever. I kind of wish I'd jumped on one of the 3070 machines for $1200 I saw, but now we're seeing $1300+ for 3060s and it just seems to have gotten too rough for me.

Oh well. At least I have a huge back catalog of games that do run good.

not true
https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Des...-p/6408996 [hp.com]
people spoiled by self build motherboard venders don't know what a mess oems are.
just even ram, you best be sure its compatible according to the crucial checker because who knows

Horribly crippled. 2 DImms, No video ports for the internal graphics. No USB-C. No option to delete video card.

FFS let us just build our own APU systems due to the video card situation.

Hey pal, why are you so butthurt about my review? You are the one blabbering on and on about defending HP and Dell's prebuilds. I was giving my opinion. You're the one all sad and triggered about it telling me to name the parts they have inside.

You want to be the champion of HP/Dell prebuild PCs? Go ahead.
Why don't YOU go ahead and let everyone here know which 'premium parts' are inside then?
Please share with us your expert knowledge on this specific model here.

To be fair my Dell XPS 2600 pc is still going strong, the only component to fail in 10 years was the original graphics card, and I believe that my fault because I was new to computers at the time and I didn't remove the GPU to clean it properly, so when it died and I pulled it to inspect there were lots of dust-bunny blockages I had failed to see and clear. So, basically, my fault. Even the PSU still works fine and hasn't developed weird noises or faults. My prebuilt experience was 100% positive, it still makes a fine if oversized HTPC.

I'm tempted to buy this, Idk. Still using a modest gtx 770 and a i5 4670k..

You found most information wrong, especially if you think RTX 2060 and 3060 are very similar.

How much was it though? Just curious.

He said 2060 super. And you're wrong, the 2060 super actually edges the 3060 out in effective speed in some metrics. UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 2060S (Super) vs 3060 [google.com]

Hey pal, why are you so butthurt about my review? You are the one blabbering on and on about defending HP and Dell's prebuilds. I was giving my opinion. You're the one all sad and triggered about it telling me to name the parts they have inside.

You want to be the champion of HP/Dell prebuild PCs? Go ahead.
Why don't YOU go ahead and let everyone here know which 'premium parts' are inside then?
Please share with us your expert knowledge on this specific model here.