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Lenovo Laptop ThinkPad L13 [Intel Core i5 10210U 16 GB RAM 512 GB PCIe SSD 13.3" Touchscreen] for $677.98 + FS

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Newegg has Lenovo Laptop ThinkPad L13 20R3001KUS Intel Core i5 10th Gen 10210U (1.60 GHz) 16 GB Memory 512 GB PCIe SSD Intel UHD Graphics 13.3" Touchscreen Windows 10 Pro 64-bit on sale for $677.98.

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Apr 24, 2021 10:37 PM
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BeautifulPocket906Apr 24, 2021 10:37 PM
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From a review

This ThinkPad is mediocre in almost every way except two.
-The screen is OK, but contrast ratios and brightness are just adequate.
-The "10th generation cpu" is really a Comet Lake Chip which uses 9th generation lithography, 9th generation microcode, and 9th generation graphics. In other words, only Intel marketing think this is a true 10th generation like Ice Lake. Translation: this is one of the slower CPU performances and iGPU graphics are horrible.
-Sound is adequte but not class leading
-Webcam is adequate but not class leading
-battery life is on the low end of adequate
-Build quality is adequate with a metal lid and plastic body. The lid is an absolute fingerprint magnet.
-No Thunderbolt 3 ports
-RAM is no longer upgradeable
-Webcam privacy switch is nice, but feels cheap and flimsy
-Trackpad is adequate
-Bezels at the top and bottom of the screen are large (the bottom bezel is huge)

In fact, in only 2 ways is this laptop is better than the rest. The keyboard is really good and the garaged stylus is awesome. That's it.

Unfortunately, Lenovo ThinkPads and Microsoft Windows 2004 (May 2020 and August 2020 editions) do not get along, so as of this writing in Nov 2020, the most recent version of Windows installed by Windows update is v1909 from Nov 2019 OVER A YEAR AGO.

So if you want a completely mediocre device with outdated processor that has a nice keyboard and garaged stylus but won't get Windows updates, you will probalby enjoy this ThinkPad. For literally everyone else please consider another model.
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Apr 24, 2021 11:39 PM
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RiverDealApr 24, 2021 11:39 PM
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Quote from BeautifulPocket906 View quoted comment :
From a review

This ThinkPad is mediocre in almost every way except two.
-The screen is OK, but contrast ratios and brightness are just adequate.
-The "10th generation cpu" is really a Comet Lake Chip which uses 9th generation lithography, 9th generation microcode, and 9th generation graphics. In other words, only Intel marketing think this is a true 10th generation like Ice Lake. Translation: this is one of the slower CPU performances and iGPU graphics are horrible.
-Sound is adequte but not class leading
-Webcam is adequate but not class leading
-battery life is on the low end of adequate
-Build quality is adequate with a metal lid and plastic body. The lid is an absolute fingerprint magnet.
-No Thunderbolt 3 ports
-RAM is no longer upgradeable
-Webcam privacy switch is nice, but feels cheap and flimsy
-Trackpad is adequate
-Bezels at the top and bottom of the screen are large (the bottom bezel is huge)

In fact, in only 2 ways is this laptop is better than the rest. The keyboard is really good and the garaged stylus is awesome. That's it.

Unfortunately, Lenovo ThinkPads and Microsoft Windows 2004 (May 2020 and August 2020 editions) do not get along, so as of this writing in Nov 2020, the most recent version of Windows installed by Windows update is v1909 from Nov 2019 OVER A YEAR AGO.

So if you want a completely mediocre device with outdated processor that has a nice keyboard and garaged stylus but won't get Windows updates, you will probalby enjoy this ThinkPad. For literally everyone else please consider another model.
Are you sure you have the correct model????
Apr 25, 2021 12:12 AM
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caveman017Apr 25, 2021 12:12 AM
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Quote from RiverDeal View quoted comment :
Are you sure you have the correct model????
Yes, the U series 10th gen is pretty much the same as the 8th gen. Only the G series is the new tech.
Apr 25, 2021 1:12 AM
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RiverDealApr 25, 2021 1:12 AM
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Quote from caveman017 View quoted comment :
Yes, the U series 10th gen is pretty much the same as the 8th gen. Only the G series is the new tech.
No, I mean is the review you referenced even for this model, or are you just commenting on the cpu?
Apr 25, 2021 1:16 AM
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caveman017Apr 25, 2021 1:16 AM
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Quote from RiverDeal View quoted comment :
No, I mean is the review you referenced even for this model, or are you just commenting on the cpu?
I'm not the original poster of that, but the CPU part is right. I'd avoid the U series CPUs from Intel at all costs these days. G series intel or Ryzen
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Apr 25, 2021 2:05 AM
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RiverDealApr 25, 2021 2:05 AM
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Quote from caveman017 View quoted comment :
I'm not the original poster of that, but the CPU part is right. I'd avoid the U series CPUs from Intel at all costs these days. G series intel or Ryzen
OK, thanks. That's good to know.
Apr 25, 2021 2:06 AM
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WingsOfFApr 25, 2021 2:06 AM
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Not a bad price for what was released as a budget Thinkpad but this was quickly discontinued and replaced with next generation CPU.

The reviews were lukewarm at best.

https://laptopmedia.com/review/le...s-machine/

Think of it as a Lenovo knock off of the classic Thinkpad. Smilie Perhaps that is what the L in the model stands for.

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Apr 25, 2021 3:20 PM
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SteveA7911Apr 25, 2021 3:20 PM
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Quote from BeautifulPocket906 View quoted comment :
From a review

This ThinkPad is mediocre in almost every way except two.
-The screen is OK, but contrast ratios and brightness are just adequate.
-The "10th generation cpu" is really a Comet Lake Chip which uses 9th generation lithography, 9th generation microcode, and 9th generation graphics. In other words, only Intel marketing think this is a true 10th generation like Ice Lake. Translation: this is one of the slower CPU performances and iGPU graphics are horrible.
-Sound is adequte but not class leading
-Webcam is adequate but not class leading
-battery life is on the low end of adequate
-Build quality is adequate with a metal lid and plastic body. The lid is an absolute fingerprint magnet.
-No Thunderbolt 3 ports
-RAM is no longer upgradeable
-Webcam privacy switch is nice, but feels cheap and flimsy
-Trackpad is adequate
-Bezels at the top and bottom of the screen are large (the bottom bezel is huge)

In fact, in only 2 ways is this laptop is better than the rest. The keyboard is really good and the garaged stylus is awesome. That's it.

Unfortunately, Lenovo ThinkPads and Microsoft Windows 2004 (May 2020 and August 2020 editions) do not get along, so as of this writing in Nov 2020, the most recent version of Windows installed by Windows update is v1909 from Nov 2019 OVER A YEAR AGO.

So if you want a completely mediocre device with outdated processor that has a nice keyboard and garaged stylus but won't get Windows updates, you will probalby enjoy this ThinkPad. For literally everyone else please consider another model.
Are you saying that this review gets it all wrong?

"Adaptix is a feature new to not just Comet Lake, but 10th-gen CPUs in general, so right now this also includes Ice Lake. It's a new version of Intel's dynamic tuning technology that takes turbo boosts a step further than we've seen previously in a mobile form factor."'

This CPU has this it also states that the U's are better at CPU but the G's are better at graphics. Both have improvements over Gen 8.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1...i5-10210u/

I am no expert and I understand many reviews are really just propaganda for the companies who pay them to write.

One of the I7' gen 10 has 6 cores and thus is much faster but this one has four cores.

Overall the test show about a 5% improvement over gen 8. So not a whole lot of improvement so gen 8 or gen 10 not all that much of a difference.
Apr 25, 2021 3:25 PM
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caveman017Apr 25, 2021 3:25 PM
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Quote from SteveA7911 View quoted comment :
Are you saying that this review gets it all wrong?

"Adaptix is a feature new to not just Comet Lake, but 10th-gen CPUs in general, so right now this also includes Ice Lake. It's a new version of Intel's dynamic tuning technology that takes turbo boosts a step further than we've seen previously in a mobile form factor."'

This CPU has this it also states that the U's are better at CPU but the G's are better at graphics. Both have improvements over Gen 8.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1...i5-10210u/

I am no expert and I understand many reviews are really just propaganda for the companies who pay them to write.

One of the I7' gen 10 has 6 cores and thus is much faster but this one has four cores.

Overall the test show about a 5% improvement over gen 8. So not a whole lot of improvement so gen 8 or gen 10 not all that much of a difference.
The 11th gen i5 (not to mention Ryzen) are a solid 30-40% faster than the 10th gen U. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get something this bad for as expensive as it is.
Apr 25, 2021 3:30 PM
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SteveA7911Apr 25, 2021 3:30 PM
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Quote from caveman017 View quoted comment :
The 11th gen i5 (not to mention Ryzen) are a solid 30-40% faster than the 10th gen U. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get something this bad for as expensive as it is.
Wish they had put a cheap gpu in it. I agree with you. Wait and it should not take long to get gen 11 at this price. Ryzen 7 I have seen at this price range.
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coolchicagoguyApr 27, 2021 8:40 PM
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Quote from BeautifulPocket906 View quoted comment :
From a review

This ThinkPad is mediocre in almost every way except two.
-The screen is OK, but contrast ratios and brightness are just adequate.
-The "10th generation cpu" is really a Comet Lake Chip which uses 9th generation lithography, 9th generation microcode, and 9th generation graphics. In other words, only Intel marketing think this is a true 10th generation like Ice Lake. Translation: this is one of the slower CPU performances and iGPU graphics are horrible.
-Sound is adequte but not class leading
-Webcam is adequate but not class leading
-battery life is on the low end of adequate
-Build quality is adequate with a metal lid and plastic body. The lid is an absolute fingerprint magnet.
-No Thunderbolt 3 ports
-RAM is no longer upgradeable
-Webcam privacy switch is nice, but feels cheap and flimsy
-Trackpad is adequate
-Bezels at the top and bottom of the screen are large (the bottom bezel is huge)

In fact, in only 2 ways is this laptop is better than the rest. The keyboard is really good and the garaged stylus is awesome. That's it.

Unfortunately, Lenovo ThinkPads and Microsoft Windows 2004 (May 2020 and August 2020 editions) do not get along, so as of this writing in Nov 2020, the most recent version of Windows installed by Windows update is v1909 from Nov 2019 OVER A YEAR AGO.

So if you want a completely mediocre device with outdated processor that has a nice keyboard and garaged stylus but won't get Windows updates, you will probalby enjoy this ThinkPad. For literally everyone else please consider another model.
Been purchasing Thinkpad series for work exclusively and though there were issues earlier with the Win 10 Pro v2004, it's been good since upgrading to v20H2. I don't see a reason to stay on v1909 and the laptops that I have been getting comes preinstalled with v2004 if not v20H2.

Spec wise, along with this L13, Lenovo had phased out several other series of this processor laptops as well as they moved to the newer 10th Gen and 11th Gen processors.

E and L are just slight improvements over the consumer grade laptops to get classified as entry-level business laptops, which is good for some who don't want to splurge on X1/T/X etc.

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