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Baratza Encore, Sette, Virtuoso+ (Refurbished) $99

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Jawsytown
05-15-2021 at 07:08 AM.
05-15-2021 at 07:08 AM.
Quote from Hwyman_FL :
I would stay from the Encore, it is too basic and outdated. It is good for general coffee grinding, not for espresso. I have had and used the Sette when they first came out. Nice grinder but eventually passed it on to a new owner.

The encore is the perfect entry grinder so not sure what you're on. At the price it's perfect
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sHockz_atx
05-15-2021 at 07:26 AM.
05-15-2021 at 07:26 AM.
270WI is an excellent grinder
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Dogenx
05-15-2021 at 07:53 AM.
05-15-2021 at 07:53 AM.
Quote from Hwyman_FL :
I would stay from the Encore, it is too basic and outdated. It is good for general coffee grinding, not for espresso. I have had and used the Sette when they first came out. Nice grinder but eventually passed it on to a new owner.
Totally disagree. I've used my Encore for years making the perfect grind for my very picky Rancilio Silvia. Works great for my Expobar too.
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sHockz_atx
05-15-2021 at 08:56 AM.
05-15-2021 at 08:56 AM.
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Totally disagree. I've used my Encore for years making the perfect grind for my very picky Rancilio Silvia. Works great for my Expobar too.
I'd highly suggest the 270Wi. It's excellent, and makes my expobar pop. Grind right into the portafilter by weight, not time. Doesn't get more accurate than that.
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peanutty
05-15-2021 at 09:06 AM.
05-15-2021 at 09:06 AM.
Darn thought the Virtuoso+ would be $99. lol
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FuschiaScene411
05-15-2021 at 09:57 AM.
05-15-2021 at 09:57 AM.
Don't forget to make sure the grinder is applicable for your desired grind type. Some are preferred for espresso
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JimBanville
05-15-2021 at 10:27 AM.
05-15-2021 at 10:27 AM.
FYI...since this is a money saving site...if you are a DRIP coffee drinker looking to "improve" the taste, do a little actual research before spending big money on a burr grinder over a decent $10 blade grinder. Avoid anecdotal evidence about the importance of burr grinders from coffee "snobs" for drip coffee. Look at unbiased studies like the America's Test Kitchen test where they conducted multiple blind tests with different coffee drinkers (including "experts"), and while some could detect "differences" in taste, none could actually pick out the burr ground versus blade ground coffee. I think they did a total of 80 tests (when you total the number of people included in all the tests). On the other hand, if you do need a specific ground size for other, non-drip coffees, burr grinders are very beneficial.
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kubicki2
05-15-2021 at 08:59 PM.
05-15-2021 at 08:59 PM.
Shipping kills it for the Encore, it's adding $35 for me? Any codes?
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lpranal
05-17-2021 at 12:04 PM.
05-17-2021 at 12:04 PM.
Quote from JimBanville :
FYI...since this is a money saving site...if you are a DRIP coffee drinker looking to "improve" the taste, do a little actual research before spending big money on a burr grinder over a decent $10 blade grinder. Avoid anecdotal evidence about the importance of burr grinders from coffee "snobs" for drip coffee. Look at unbiased studies like the America's Test Kitchen test where they conducted multiple blind tests with different coffee drinkers (including "experts"), and while some could detect "differences" in taste, none could actually pick out the burr ground versus blade ground coffee. I think they did a total of 80 tests (when you total the number of people included in all the tests). On the other hand, if you do need a specific ground size for other, non-drip coffees, burr grinders are very beneficial.
Not discounting what ATC's test found, but that is under pretty specific situations. Admittedly, those situations are fairly common for a lot of coffee drinkers (i.e. drip coffee with regular old paper filters). When you start getting into other brew methods like french press, aeropress, pourover - or even just things like metal drip filters, the grind equipment & size absolutely starts to come into play.

This isn't to say you *need* a burr grinder. You need to ask yourself what you're hoping to achieve with any equipment upgrade. If you buy one thinking it's going to magically imrpove your coffee, it won't. If you just want 'better tasting' coffee, it behooves the smart consumer to consider what they are actually looking for. But some people with access to and a preference towards fresh, higher quality beans, single origin coffees etc., the blade grinder is only going to get you so far.
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