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May 17, 2021 8:56 PM
8-Cup Cuisinart CPO-800 Pureprecision Pour-Over Coffee Brewer w/ Glass Carafe
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For someone spooning unweighed folgers into a filter, anything beyond a Mr Coffee is probably a waste of money. If however you're freshly grinding coffee that is less than say, 30 days off roast, you'll benefit from improving every step in preparation.
1) how consistent is your grind?
2)are you weighing water and coffee to insure a proper ratio
3)are you using water at the appropriate temperature to extract the parts of the coffee you want to extract.
4)are you getting that water delivered to the coffee at the appropriate rate.
All that being said, there are lots of great coffee makers that can deliver water between 202-208 degrees F. What you're getting from that basic point is more advance shower heads *(for better distribution of water) more advanced pumping systems (for more consistent water delivery rates) and better build quality (for longevity).
The Technivorm Mochamaster is a machine that you can reasonably expect with care to last a lifetime, and it does everything well. It is not however all that terribly convenient. The pieces fit together in an odd fashion, it requires your time and attention to make a beautiful cup off coffee, and its a bit bigger than many of its competitors.
As you go away from the Mochamaster, you can often find either more attractive machines that do things similarly, or get similar performance made with cheaper parts and assembled in Taiwan instead of The Netherlands. Those machines will do a great job, but most likely won't last all that terribly long in comparison.
Hope this helps.
The difference between them is usually down to consistency and control. Most cheap coffee makers lack the ability to rapidly bring water to temp and MAINTAiN it there for the whole brew cycle. While you probably won't taste the difference between multiple machines, you would be able to tell if one of those machines fluctuated water temperature or just drops off temp at the back end. The other part of a good machine is being able to do things like a bloom cycle and even having flow control and just good flow in general. Either way though, if you aren't grinding beans that are relatively fresh then you probably would be wasting money on a nice brewer. Spend money on a good grinder first and get a $30 Mr coffee machine and then worry about upgrading later. When you're ready, just buy based on features and reliability. I went with the Breville Precision Brewer because I wanted timer functionality and a large capacity. It also allows you to fully program your brew from bloom time to water temp to flow rate - very cool stuff to mess around with. I will say that I'm not like a super crazy coffee person but getting that brewer very much improved my coffee so take that as you will.
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This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
I have a hand thermometer I used to measure the coffee coming out of my cheap machine to verify its at the temperature recommended, and I use good quality beans. Not clear what a higher end unit would provide, its not like its a high pressurized machine.
This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
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Any recommendation on where to actually be able to buy it?
For someone spooning unweighed folgers into a filter, anything beyond a Mr Coffee is probably a waste of money. If however you're freshly grinding coffee that is less than say, 30 days off roast, you'll benefit from improving every step in preparation.
1) how consistent is your grind?
2)are you weighing water and coffee to insure a proper ratio
3)are you using water at the appropriate temperature to extract the parts of the coffee you want to extract.
4)are you getting that water delivered to the coffee at the appropriate rate.
All that being said, there are lots of great coffee makers that can deliver water between 202-208 degrees F. What you're getting from that basic point is more advance shower heads *(for better distribution of water) more advanced pumping systems (for more consistent water delivery rates) and better build quality (for longevity).
The Technivorm Mochamaster is a machine that you can reasonably expect with care to last a lifetime, and it does everything well. It is not however all that terribly convenient. The pieces fit together in an odd fashion, it requires your time and attention to make a beautiful cup off coffee, and its a bit bigger than many of its competitors.
As you go away from the Mochamaster, you can often find either more attractive machines that do things similarly, or get similar performance made with cheaper parts and assembled in Taiwan instead of The Netherlands. Those machines will do a great job, but most likely won't last all that terribly long in comparison.
Hope this helps.
Moving from a gevalia branded drip coffee maker to a Bonavita was literally eye opening. Double meaning intended.
Same beans, same roast, completely different brewed coffee.
Even the store bought, flavored, bottom shelf coffees taste 10x better out of the better machine. But it's all up to you. If you can't tell the difference then why bother.
IIRC — most of these machines are returnable so why not see if it makes as big of a difference in your life as it did for mine.
Also, over the course of a year, amortizing the cost, are you willing to pay $0.50 per pot premium for a premium product? Chose to not go to "Starbies" for a month and it will pay for itself.
Also. Btw. Prime steaks are better than select.
Treat yo self.
This model and the OXO however do look promising and are both from brands I have had nothing but good experiences with. However I have also had my eye on the Technivorm Moccamaster (LINK [amazon.com]). I like a lot about that coffee maker but still there's even some poor/low reviews there.
And then to further muddy the waters there's always the people who claim they can't tell the tell the difference between the coffee that comes from a $30 coffee maker vs a $300 coffee maker. Which I somewhat believe seeing as how I normally don't seem to taste/see/hear a huge difference with a lot of products like these that play off of such subjective senses such as taste/smell/sound/etc. Makes me think of the whole audiophile industry, which is another can of worms and a deep rabbit hole one can get lost in.
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