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forum threadGoodOmens posted May 19, 2021 01:25 AM
forum threadGoodOmens posted May 19, 2021 01:25 AM

Annual Credit for Amex Platinum + Free AU for Maintaining a Morgan Stanley CashPlus Account

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The Morgan Stanley (MS) Platinum CashPlus [morganstanley.com]account offers a $550 (Update July 2021: Now $695) Annual Engagement Bonus to cover the entire annual fee of a Morgan Stanley Platinum Amex Card. The MS Platinum Card has all the features of a vanilla Platinum Card ($200 annual airline credit, lounge access, etc)

To avoid the fees on the CashPlus account ($45/month) you have to have
  • $25000 average daily balance
  • $5000 Monthly Deposits (Doesn't have to be net, you can just transfer in/out this amount )
  • Active Morgan Stanley Investment Account (easiest is Access Investing with initial $5k minimum, sadly E-Trade accounts don't count)
To obtain this deal
  1. Open and fund an Access Investment Account [morganstanley.com]
  2. Open and fund your CashPlus account (I did this over the phone the day after opening my access account)
  3. Within the CashPlus account, follow the link and apply for the Amex Platinum
  4. Spend at least $1000 on the Amex to keep the engagement bonus tax free

In addition the current sign up bonus for the Amex is 60k points after 5k spend (July 2021: 100k after 6k spend), not the best but also no annual fee!

While this seems like some work, that's a 2.2% return on the cash tax free. Further sweetened if you can take advantage of the authorized user (AU) and any other deals (e.g., $30 monthly PayPal credit, $15 monthly Uber credit etc). This is part of my emergency fund so investments in the market are out of the question. Account is FDIC insured.

The Access Investing account has an annual 0.3% fee (So ~$15 a year).

Morgan Stanley defines monthly deposits to include payroll, social security, Zelle, mobile check deposits, wires and any external transfers, so that requirement should be fairly easy to meet. Plus, any amount of social security benefits deposited each month will waive the $5,000 monthly deposit requirement.

https://www.morganstanley.com/wha...t/cashplus
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The Morgan Stanley (MS) Platinum CashPlus [morganstanley.com]account offers a $550 (Update July 2021: Now $695) Annual Engagement Bonus to cover the entire annual fee of a Morgan Stanley Platinum Amex Card. The MS Platinum Card has all the features of a vanilla Platinum Card ($200 annual airline credit, lounge access, etc)

To avoid the fees on the CashPlus account ($45/month) you have to have
  • $25000 average daily balance
  • $5000 Monthly Deposits (Doesn't have to be net, you can just transfer in/out this amount )
  • Active Morgan Stanley Investment Account (easiest is Access Investing with initial $5k minimum, sadly E-Trade accounts don't count)
To obtain this deal
  1. Open and fund an Access Investment Account [morganstanley.com]
  2. Open and fund your CashPlus account (I did this over the phone the day after opening my access account)
  3. Within the CashPlus account, follow the link and apply for the Amex Platinum
  4. Spend at least $1000 on the Amex to keep the engagement bonus tax free

In addition the current sign up bonus for the Amex is 60k points after 5k spend (July 2021: 100k after 6k spend), not the best but also no annual fee!

While this seems like some work, that's a 2.2% return on the cash tax free. Further sweetened if you can take advantage of the authorized user (AU) and any other deals (e.g., $30 monthly PayPal credit, $15 monthly Uber credit etc). This is part of my emergency fund so investments in the market are out of the question. Account is FDIC insured.

The Access Investing account has an annual 0.3% fee (So ~$15 a year).

Morgan Stanley defines monthly deposits to include payroll, social security, Zelle, mobile check deposits, wires and any external transfers, so that requirement should be fairly easy to meet. Plus, any amount of social security benefits deposited each month will waive the $5,000 monthly deposit requirement.

https://www.morganstanley.com/wha...t/cashplus

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May 19, 2021 02:37 AM
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liuhaotianMay 19, 2021 02:37 AM
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This is great deal. Used to own Amex platinum from Morgan Stanley with self invest account. Note that one AU is free of $75 free comparing with other platinum cards and it comes as extra priority pass membership.
May 19, 2021 04:34 PM
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nichosMay 19, 2021 04:34 PM
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Good deal, but would prefer Schwab. They need to offer something like this.
May 19, 2021 04:36 PM
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igoroz19May 19, 2021 04:36 PM
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any chance Schwab duplicates this offer?
May 19, 2021 04:48 PM
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abi.raMay 19, 2021 04:48 PM
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I quote from OP:

"Further sweetened if you can take advantage of the authorized user (AU) and any other deals (e.g., $30 monthly PayPal credit, $15 monthly Uber credit etc)."

Does that mean the AU can have his own 15$ monthly uber credit besides the main cardholder having it as well? Further, what is this 30$ monthly PayPal credit?

Thanks and reps.
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May 19, 2021 04:51 PM
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Quote from igoroz19 :
any chance Schwab duplicates this offer?
Considering this has been around for a year with no match from Schwab, doubtful. Unless you consider their generous offer of giving a $200 credit for having 1m+ with them.

The driver behind changing Premier Cash Management ($1+m AUM or $100k in debit card transactions to waive fees and get the engagement bonus) to the CashPlus program (this) was to increase the deposits for Morgan Stanley Private Bank. They started running into problems chasing lucrative loan deals because they didn't have the deposit backing to meet the demand.

So unsure how long this will continue or if they will increase the annual credit for the rumored platinum fee increase coming in July.

For now it's a great deal - you get the platinum for a year, get grandfathered into whatever changes come in July and get to see if MS continues the relationship.
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cashville619May 19, 2021 04:55 PM
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so to recap you have to...
$5,000 monthly deposit (or Social Security deposit in any amount)
-and-
$25,000 Average
Daily Cash Balance (in the Bank Deposit Program)
in order to save $550/yr? Hmmm, not quite for me
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Quote from abi.ra :
I quote from OP:

"Further sweetened if you can take advantage of the authorized user (AU) and any other deals (e.g., $30 monthly PayPal credit, $15 monthly Uber credit etc)."

Does that mean the AU can have his own 15$ monthly uber credit besides the main cardholder having it as well? Further, what is this 30$ monthly PayPal credit?

Thanks and reps.
No. AU with Amex don't get all the benefits but do get separate lounge access, hotel status, and global entry fee credit. The paypal credit mentioned is AMEX is doing a deal through June 31st that if you checkout with paypal for a merchant you get up to a $30 monthly credit.

Pretty good article covering it: https://thepointsguy.com/guide/wh...-platinum/

Note the MS platinum doesn't have the 10x gas and grocery offer going on now.
Last edited by GoodOmens May 19, 2021 at 10:05 AM.

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May 19, 2021 05:03 PM
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ShrewdCrowd1060May 19, 2021 05:03 PM
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Anyone know the historic high SUB for this card? 100k?
May 19, 2021 05:05 PM
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abi.raMay 19, 2021 05:05 PM
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Quote from GoodOmens :
No. AU with Amex don't get all the benefits but do get separate lounge access, hotel status, and global entry fee credit. The paypal credit mentioned is AMEX is doing a deal through June 31st that if you checkout with paypal for a merchant you get up to a $30 monthly credit.

Pretty good article covering it: https://thepointsguy.com/guide/wh...-platinum/

Note the MS platinum doesn't have the 10x gas and grocery offer going on now.
Thanks and reps.

I just got mail for invitation for platinum with 550$ fees and 100k points. It does mention 10x points on gas and groceries.
May 19, 2021 05:06 PM
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abi.raMay 19, 2021 05:06 PM
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Quote from ShrewdCrowd1060 :
Anyone know the historic high SUB for this card? 100k?
Yes even I'd like to know given I got an email for 100k points for 5k spend in 6 months for regular platinum.
Last edited by abi.ra May 19, 2021 at 10:14 AM.
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ShrewdCrowd1060May 19, 2021 05:07 PM
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Quote from abi.ra :
Yes even id like to know given i got an email for 100k points for 5k soend in 6 months.
For the Morgan Stanley card or regular Amex Plat
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Quote from abi.ra :
I just got mail for invitation for platinum with 550$ fees and 100k points. It does mention 10x points on gas and groceries.
Mailer for the MS Platinum or the vanilla? The MS Platinum is just 60k points/1x point spends with the 5x for Airline and AmexTravel.

You have to apply for the MS Platinum from within your CashPlus account. The MS co-branded platinum are similar but not the exact same as the vanilla one direct from Amex.
May 19, 2021 05:11 PM
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justinlcaMay 19, 2021 05:11 PM
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Is it possible to invest the $25,000 or does it have to be held in cash?
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Quote from cashville619 :
so to recap you have to...
$5,000 monthly deposit (or Social Security deposit in any amount)
-and-
$25,000 Average
Daily Cash Balance (in the Bank Deposit Program)
in order to save $550/yr? Hmmm, not quite for me
Yes - but if you are not using it for your checking (which it's not a bad checking account - no fees for wire transfers, no foreign transaction fee, unlimited ATM rebates, free experian credit monitoring etc), you can just transfer in and out that 5k a month (automated even) to avoid that part.

For the 25k minimum point me to a FDIC insured account that's giving >2% right now. For those with an appropriate sized emergency fund it's a good place to park that cash.

Quote from justinlca :
Is it possible to invest the $25,000 or does it have to be held in cash?
Cash unfortunately. But I'm using this for our emergency cash reserve.

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May 19, 2021 05:15 PM
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abi.raMay 19, 2021 05:15 PM
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Quote from ShrewdCrowd1060 :
For the Morgan Stanley card or regular Amex Plat
Fixed it in my original post. Regular platinum.

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