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If you use this, don't cut your heater hose like the directions say, but get an extra bit of heater hose to add the T. Then remove it when you're done.
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"Question: I remember watching people used this kit back in the early 70s and watching the light-green diluted coolant spewing out the top of the radiator. How does one use this product without spilling any coolant or flushing liquid on the ground?
Answer: Drain your old coolant into a very large drain pan first. Then, follow instructions on the back of flush N Fill kit. Can be very difficult not to get any of the old anti-freeze on the ground. When flushing out the old remaining coolant mixed with the water, you are flushing in. Unless you can collect about 10 gallons of water mixed with old coolant. It does splash around coming out. If you are worried about this, take to a professional mechanic that has a professional flushing machine."
There's nothing like killing dogs and cats that drink the stuff after some clueless moronic DIY guy sprays antifreeze all over the driveway or ignorantly dumps it.
Then this: "For a 6 cylinder Ranger this technique generated 40 gallons of antifreeze contaminated fluid. Our county only takes antifreeze at one site. You cannot dump this on the ground. BEWARE! If you use this you have to have a way to transport and dispose of 40 gallons of contaminated fluid."
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"Question: I remember watching people used this kit back in the early 70s and watching the light-green diluted coolant spewing out the top of the radiator. How does one use this product without spilling any coolant or flushing liquid on the ground?
Answer: Drain your old coolant into a very large drain pan first. Then, follow instructions on the back of flush N Fill kit. Can be very difficult not to get any of the old anti-freeze on the ground. When flushing out the old remaining coolant mixed with the water, you are flushing in. Unless you can collect about 10 gallons of water mixed with old coolant. It does splash around coming out. If you are worried about this, take to a professional mechanic that has a professional flushing machine."
There's nothing like killing dogs and cats that drink the stuff after some clueless moronic DIY guy sprays antifreeze all over the driveway or ignorantly dumps it.
Then this: "For a 6 cylinder Ranger this technique generated 40 gallons of antifreeze contaminated fluid. Our county only takes antifreeze at one site. You cannot dump this on the ground. BEWARE! If you use this you have to have a way to transport and dispose of 40 gallons of contaminated fluid."
I bought this with plans to change the antifreeze in my 03 Cavalier years ago. After fully realizing the instructions and what was required, I opted not to use it since I was afraid it would simply create another chance for leaks. Cutting a hose and putting a plastic flush valve on it with hose clamps seemed like a recipe for disaster.
I did end up doing the coolant change, and while the job was fairly simple, the amount of fluid it created proved to be difficult to dispose of. After draining, doing a minor flush and capturing the fluid in a spill-proof container (like this[advanceautoparts.com]) I ended up with around 5-6 gallons of contaminated water. I stored all of this in empty antifreeze bottles and gallon drinking water jugs until I could figure out how to get rid of it. My car has a tiny 2L 4-cyl engine, so I could see this number growing exponentially doing a larger engine.
In my area, the landfill will only take hazardous waste like antifreeze 3-4 times a year and during specific times (usually 4 hour windows of time on Saturdays). My local Advance Auto would take antifreeze, but only in limited amounts and only when the tank wasn't full. I stored that old antifreeze in my shed for over a year while getting rid of it one gallon at a time. Every time I'd go to Advance Auto, I'd call and see if they could take it and if so, I'd load the containers up and carry them over. Oftentimes they'd limit me to one gallon to avoid people filling the tank up. Most places don't even want it since it costs them money to have hauled off. I tried calling several garages in the area and none of them would accept it. Eventually, I got rid of it all, but it was a PITA.
I am very conscious of disposing of fluids properly but I also know people who aren't. While capturing the fluid, I made every effort to avoid spilling/splashing any out, but it's nearly impossible. The drain plug on my radiator ended up being fused in place and required destroying it on removal. Luckily, I had another vehicle to go back to an auto parts store and purchase a new plug, otherwise I would have been screwed. Unfortunately, I feel like many people will simply drain straight on the ground, or just throw the jugs of contaminated water into the garbage.
All this to say....a job like this might be better left to a garage or someone that can properly dispose of the fluid. Unless you've got a proper catch pan with tall sides and the ability to not spill any during capture, transport, etc...it's a hassle. Changing oil is a totally different story since it tends not to splash and you're not flushing/contaminating additional fluid in the process.
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Dumping anti-freeze hazmat into the ground is a really bad environmental violation
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Dumping anti-freeze hazmat into the ground is a really bad environmental violation
In Scotland I got tracked down by local authorities for simply cleaning my car near the river Dee
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Answer: Drain your old coolant into a very large drain pan first. Then, follow instructions on the back of flush N Fill kit. Can be very difficult not to get any of the old anti-freeze on the ground. When flushing out the old remaining coolant mixed with the water, you are flushing in. Unless you can collect about 10 gallons of water mixed with old coolant. It does splash around coming out. If you are worried about this, take to a professional mechanic that has a professional flushing machine."
There's nothing like killing dogs and cats that drink the stuff after some clueless moronic DIY guy sprays antifreeze all over the driveway or ignorantly dumps it.
Then this:
"For a 6 cylinder Ranger this technique generated 40 gallons of antifreeze contaminated fluid. Our county only takes antifreeze at one site. You cannot dump this on the ground. BEWARE! If you use this you have to have a way to transport and dispose of 40 gallons of contaminated fluid."
Answer: Drain your old coolant into a very large drain pan first. Then, follow instructions on the back of flush N Fill kit. Can be very difficult not to get any of the old anti-freeze on the ground. When flushing out the old remaining coolant mixed with the water, you are flushing in. Unless you can collect about 10 gallons of water mixed with old coolant. It does splash around coming out. If you are worried about this, take to a professional mechanic that has a professional flushing machine."
There's nothing like killing dogs and cats that drink the stuff after some clueless moronic DIY guy sprays antifreeze all over the driveway or ignorantly dumps it.
Then this:
"For a 6 cylinder Ranger this technique generated 40 gallons of antifreeze contaminated fluid. Our county only takes antifreeze at one site. You cannot dump this on the ground. BEWARE! If you use this you have to have a way to transport and dispose of 40 gallons of contaminated fluid."
I did end up doing the coolant change, and while the job was fairly simple, the amount of fluid it created proved to be difficult to dispose of. After draining, doing a minor flush and capturing the fluid in a spill-proof container (like this [advanceautoparts.com]) I ended up with around 5-6 gallons of contaminated water. I stored all of this in empty antifreeze bottles and gallon drinking water jugs until I could figure out how to get rid of it. My car has a tiny 2L 4-cyl engine, so I could see this number growing exponentially doing a larger engine.
In my area, the landfill will only take hazardous waste like antifreeze 3-4 times a year and during specific times (usually 4 hour windows of time on Saturdays). My local Advance Auto would take antifreeze, but only in limited amounts and only when the tank wasn't full. I stored that old antifreeze in my shed for over a year while getting rid of it one gallon at a time. Every time I'd go to Advance Auto, I'd call and see if they could take it and if so, I'd load the containers up and carry them over. Oftentimes they'd limit me to one gallon to avoid people filling the tank up. Most places don't even want it since it costs them money to have hauled off. I tried calling several garages in the area and none of them would accept it. Eventually, I got rid of it all, but it was a PITA.
I am very conscious of disposing of fluids properly but I also know people who aren't. While capturing the fluid, I made every effort to avoid spilling/splashing any out, but it's nearly impossible. The drain plug on my radiator ended up being fused in place and required destroying it on removal. Luckily, I had another vehicle to go back to an auto parts store and purchase a new plug, otherwise I would have been screwed. Unfortunately, I feel like many people will simply drain straight on the ground, or just throw the jugs of contaminated water into the garbage.
All this to say....a job like this might be better left to a garage or someone that can properly dispose of the fluid. Unless you've got a proper catch pan with tall sides and the ability to not spill any during capture, transport, etc...it's a hassle. Changing oil is a totally different story since it tends not to splash and you're not flushing/contaminating additional fluid in the process.
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Dumping anti-freeze hazmat into the ground is a really bad environmental violation
Update: I see the guy changed his snarky response.
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