Dell Inspiron Desktop: i5-10400, 8GB DDR4, 256GB SSD, Win10 $400 (less w/ SD Cashback) + free s/h at Dell

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200W PSU

That's ... a very small PSU for a micro-atx build. Definitely something to keep in mind if you wanted to add pretty much any level of GPU to this rig.

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SamerH

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Directly from their web site "Give yourself options
Memory boost: Secure up to 16GB of DDR4 SDRAM and deliver rich visuals at SSD-like speeds.".

"Up to 16GB" in 2021 is sort of like saying "but wait, there's more, order now and we'll throw in a couple of betamax tapes with your VCR order absolutely free, just pay $49.95 processing and handling" Stick Out Tongue

Also, a 200W PSU, even for a "micro" build is akin to having a 3.5" floppy disk drive...

Thanks to the OP but I cannot justify this one

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Directly from their web site "Give yourself options
Memory boost: Secure up to 16GB of DDR4 SDRAM and deliver rich visuals at SSD-like speeds.".

That must be some really shi++y memory if it operates at SSD speeds.

What a load of mumbo-jumbo.

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Quote from SamerH

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Directly from their web site "Give yourself options
Memory boost: Secure up to 16GB of DDR4 SDRAM and deliver rich visuals at SSD-like speeds.".

"Up to 16GB" in 2021 is sort of like saying "but wait, there's more, order now and we'll throw in a couple of betamax tapes with your VCR order absolutely free, just pay $49.95 processing and handling"

Also, a 200W PSU, even for a "micro" build is akin to having a 3.5" floppy disk drive...

Thanks to the OP but I cannot justify this one

Just because you have very less understanding about how hardware work, does not mean that it is a bad deal. For example, you failed to understand that 16GB is the maximum Memory what Dell sells this 3880 Series with, not the max supported. For more than 8 years, the max supported Ram is decided by the Processor's capability of supporting, available memory slots and the max sized DIMM module available. This Desktop can support up to 64GB or Ram by using two 32GB module.

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muchwow

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That's ... a very small PSU for a micro-atx build. Definitely something to keep in mind if you wanted to add pretty much any level of GPU to this rig.

desktops like these aren't really meant to be upgraded significantly. and there's more than just the psu as to why:

the form factor itself will limit any decent sized gpus
the lack of airflow in the case will suffocate high performance gpus

aside from that, for the low profile gpus (something like a 750ti or 950), 200w is enough. cutting it close (esp with the 950), but enough.

as always, if you plan on gaming, buy an actual gaming desktop. don't try to put a v8 into a honda civic.

edit - i wanted to add that it doesn't say 'atx' anywhere on the page, and that's because it uses proprietary parts. in case anyone was wondering if the psu could be swapped out for a standard atx one (it can't).

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thedealsman440

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haha NO!

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againareku

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I can't believe that this many years later Dell keeps selling these non certified 200w power supplies. EVGA 460W 80+ BRONZE on amazon is $30. Wholesale is probably about $10-15 for a purchase order like Dell's. It would benefit the systems even if running stock forever.

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Just because you have very less understanding about how hardware work, does not mean that it is a bad deal. For example, you failed to understand that 16GB is the maximum Memory what Dell sells this 3880 Series with, not the max supported. For more than 8 years, the max supported Ram is decided by the Processor's capability of supporting, available memory slots and the max sized DIMM module available. This Desktop can support up to 64GB or Ram by using two 32GB module.

I do not appreciate this response at all. I am perfectly well-versed in hardware with years of experience. My experience has taught me to never trust anything that the manufacturer didn't explicitly state. In this case Dell was careful to word this in such a way that it can only come in 8GB or 16GB configurations (at best) and there is no documentation anywhere else to indicate the motherboard supports more than 16GB. Even if I was to buy memory from crucial at 2x32 it would be under an assumption that it should work.

In the future, perhaps you should soften your responses and not be as disrespectful?

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Quote from SamerH

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I do not appreciate this response at all. I am perfectly well-versed in hardware with years of experience. My experience has taught me to never trust anything that the manufacturer didn't explicitly state. In this case Dell was careful to word this in such a way that it can only come in 8GB or 16GB configurations (at best) and there is no documentation anywhere else to indicate the motherboard supports more than 16GB. Even if I was to buy memory from crucial at 2x32 it would be under an assumption that it should work.

In the future, perhaps you should soften your responses and not be as disrespectful?

i personally wouldn't trust (or even read) a word of the marketing jargon on that page. i could pick a random person on a pc thread on SD and they'd know more about computers than dell's marketing team.

i'll try not to be disrespectful. your comment and your claimed experience do not go hand in hand. you're using analogies that don't quite make sense, and are attempting to poke fun at the specs that are completely adequate for the purpose of this desktop (everyday use). if you're an avid gamer or a professional, you shouldn't settle for a consumer grade everyday computer. you shouldn't be expecting some miracle for $400.

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jchu14

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Quote from againareku

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I can't believe that this many years later Dell keeps selling these non certified 200w power supplies. EVGA 460W 80+ BRONZE on amazon is $30. Wholesale is probably about $10-15 for a purchase order like Dell's. It would benefit the systems even if running stock forever.

The 200w power supply is rated bronze according to a teardown on https://youtu.be/yV8YxIOycXc?t=174

It is a proprietary size though. Most of these small desktops from Dell or HP are very small with proprietary motherboard and power supply. At 14.8 liters in volume, it's smaller than most itx cases.

Bronze rating is not great though, for a 12v only power supply. HP has a prebuild with a 400w 12v only power supply that's platinum rated.

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Homer3D

May 28, 2021 5:43 PM

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Because Dell tends to use proprietary hardware, it is difficult to price check this PC. However, using the specs I can see and selecting the cheapest retail price for those items, I built a similar PC to this on PC Part picker and the total came out to $411 (not including Windows OS).

So is this a good deal? Maybe, for the right person. If you don't like to build your own PC and just want something that works right out of the box, sure. But this is as basic as can be. Light office work, email, web surfing, etc will be just fine. I would not expect anything more from this PC at this price point.

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Darick

May 28, 2021 6:31 PM

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I see it has HDMI and VGA. Excuse the stupid question, but I'm guessing I could not connect a monitor to both the HDMI and VGA and extend the display on two independent monitors. Or can I???

muchwow

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I see it has HDMI and VGA. Excuse the stupid question, but I'm guessing I could not connect a monitor to both the HDMI and VGA and have it work. Or can I???

yes, you can.

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Brewedcoffee

May 28, 2021 7:08 PM

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These are great office computers or for generic home computing needs by the average person. Enthusiasts and gamers should look elsewhere though due to limited upgrading abilities.

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madib

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Quote from SamerH

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In this case Dell was careful to word this in such a way that it can only come in 8GB or 16GB configurations (at best) and there is no documentation anywhere else to indicate the motherboard supports more than 16GB. Even if I was to buy memory from crucial at 2x32 it would be under an assumption that it should work.

In the future, perhaps you should soften your responses and not be as disrespectful?

There is NO documentation ANYWHERE ELSE?

How hard did you look?

Had you done a Google search for this very obscure phrase "dell inspiron 3880 max memory" the very FIRST result would have been this one at dell.com https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/inspiron-3880-desktop/inspiron-3880-setup-and-specificati... [dell.com]

Spoiler Alert.....Max memory is 64GB just like you've been told.

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