expiredtrekkie963 posted Jul 06, 2021 01:32 AM
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expiredtrekkie963 posted Jul 06, 2021 01:32 AM
Sony Alpha a7R II Mirrorless Digital Camera $1198 at B&H Photo
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You do realize low iso is entirely where you take landscape shots, right? And that's where you most need dynamic range?
Taking some super 800iso landscape shots?
For someone that claims that DXOmark is a tool for noobs, you seem to use them quite a bit.
The A7Rii's sensor wins on every other metric, at every ISO.
So you're saying the Sony excels at every metric that isn't the best - got it.
So you're saying the Sony excels at every metric that isn't the best - got it.
I would take higher resolution, higher signal to noise, better tonal range, and greater color sensitivity at all ISOs. And greater DR at 400 ISO and above.
For someone that claims that DXOmark is a tool for noobs, you seem to use them quite a bit.
Am I reading this right?
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You do realize low iso is entirely where you take landscape shots, right? And that's where you most need dynamic range?
Taking some super 800iso landscape shots?
We use A7C's, because they have several critical features not found on A7iii or A7Siii, and the A1 is too pricey when you have 9 cameras.
Am I reading this right?
And even if it is, is 13.9 stops of Dynamic range not enough for you?
We use A7C's, because they have several critical features not found on A7iii or A7Siii, and the A1 is too pricey when you have 9 cameras.
A7c is a different matter. I agree that's a good choice for vlogging.
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And even if it is, is 13.9 stops of Dynamic range not enough for you?
The a7riii autofocus at high iso hardly keeps up. I certainly wouldn't want the a7rii for that application. You aren't getting any benefit of 42mp by shooting high iso and then applying noise reduction. I'd much rather invest in fast glass so I could lower the iso.
If you shoot RAW and run it through DXO PL4, DeepPrime denoise makes ISO discussions really irrelevant.
I can get great looking shots at 12800 ISO that look better than ligthroom did with 800 ISO files.
I used to hard cap at 1600 ISO for "good" shots, now I will shoot up to 6400-12800 and be happy.
If you shoot RAW and run it through DXO PL4, DeepPrime denoise makes ISO discussions really irrelevant.
I can get great looking shots at 12800 ISO that look better than ligthroom did with 800 ISO files.
I used to hard cap at 1600 ISO for "good" shots, now I will shoot up to 6400-12800 and be happy.
I prefer DXO because I can do all my necessary editing in one suite, with a single purchase (goodbye monthly lightroom fees)
I would take higher resolution, higher signal to noise, better tonal range, and greater color sensitivity at all ISOs. And greater DR at 400 ISO and above.
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ISO Sensitivity: Basically identical across the board.
SNR 18%: On screen, where most people will view your photos, the Z6 is noticeably better. In print they are basically identical until above 12,800 ISO then the Sony has a slight advantage. Bottomline - The Sony is beat here.
Dynamic Range: The Z6 is the winner across the board in both on screen and print except at ISO 320 in print only. On screen the dynamic range is almost 2 stops between ISO 400 and ISO 1200.
Tonal Range: The Z6 is again better in every way on screen and print except for above ISO 12,800 when printing.
Color Sensitivity: The Z6 wins out in every spot along the ISO path on screen. It does trade positions back and forth depending on ISO when printing. This is the only condition is which the A7R II has any iota of competition in it..
All that and you get better battery life. Cheaper batteries. Better Eye AF (after 3.0 firmware) 12fps shooting!.
You can take your 42mp, it's not worth everything else. Facts over feelings.
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/C..._1035_1269 [dxomark.com]
ISO Sensitivity: Basically identical across the board.
SNR 18%: On screen, where most people will view your photos, the Z6 is noticeably better. In print they are basically identical until above 12,800 ISO then the Sony has a slight advantage. Bottomline - The Sony is beat here.
Dynamic Range: The Z6 is the winner across the board in both on screen and print except at ISO 320 in print only. On screen the dynamic range is almost 2 stops between ISO 400 and ISO 1200.
Tonal Range: The Z6 is again better in every way on screen and print except for above ISO 12,800 when printing.
Color Sensitivity: The Z6 wins out in every spot along the ISO path on screen. It does trade positions back and forth depending on ISO when printing. This is the only condition is which the A7R II has any iota of competition in it..
All that and you get better battery life. Cheaper batteries. Better Eye AF (after 3.0 firmware) 12fps shooting!.
You can take your 42mp, it's not worth everything else. Facts over feelings.
-50% higher EVF resolution
- almost 100% higher rear LCD screen resolution
- 4k/30 video
- faster processor / bigger buffer / XQD card slot.
- USB 3.1 rather than 2.0 connectivity
- access to a huge catalogue of cheaper, high quality glass
But it won't matter to this guy. He apparently wants to get this camera with a 24-70 zoom and flex because his sensor is 42mp. (BTW he specifically says he wants to view it on screen.)
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Then you have to add a lens. Outside of that kit 24-50mm F3.5-6.3, the native Z lenses are pretty pricey. Sony has the advantage of 3rd party native lenses.
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