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4k switch advice?

1,379 121 July 6, 2021 at 12:37 PM
My problem is I have a 4k AVR that has only one hdmi out and I would like to send the signal to two 4k tvs. I don't want to duplicate the signal as I will only be watching one at a time so I just like to flip the signal from one to the other. I want it to support high speed (at least 18gb) 4k resolution (earc, ultra hd, 3d, etc). Basically I want to keep as much of the signal coming out of the AVR as possible, ie minimize signal degradation both audio and video. Anyone know of a device that works for such purpose? Thanks!
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jkee
07-06-2021 at 01:45 PM.
07-06-2021 at 01:45 PM.
Quote from Scrooge :
My problem is I have a 4k AVR that has only one hdmi out and I would like to send the signal to two 4k tvs. I don't want to duplicate the signal as I will only be watching one at a time so I just like to flip the signal from one to the other. I want it to support high speed (at least 18gb) 4k resolution (earc, ultra hd, 3d, etc). Basically I want to keep as much of the signal coming out of the AVR as possible, ie minimize signal degradation both audio and video. Anyone know of a device that works for such purpose? Thanks!
HDMI switches aren't bi-directional. Most are designed to connect multiple inputs to one output, like your AVR.

There are some that are designed to handle multiple outputs, these are often referred to as matrix hdmi switches (search monoprice). The other option is something called an HDMI splitter that distributes the video to multiple screens simultaneously. HDCP issues are possible with some of these devices. A splitter is probably the simpler / cheaper option as you don't have to deal with remotes/ir extenders etc to switch the source (just use other hdmi inputs on the tv if you want to see different content). If you have HDCP issues try a different brand.

Some of the matrix switches distribute the video over CAT-6A (which is shielded, sometimes using multiple cables). Using ethernet type cabling is easier to install and cheaper than long hdmi cables, but could struggle with 4k.
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07-06-2021 at 08:51 PM.
07-06-2021 at 08:51 PM.
This could be a good starting place

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=42645

Blackbird 4K Displayport 1.4 USB 3.0 2x1 KVM Switch, 4K@60Hz, HDR, YCbCr 4:4:4, HDCP 2.2


18GB
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TeeDub
07-08-2021 at 08:37 AM.
07-08-2021 at 08:37 AM.
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I don't want to duplicate the signal as I will only be watching one at a time so I just like to flip the signal from one to the other.

Why do you care if it is sending signal to both devices? As long as you only turn one on, it isn't as if there is a power consumption issue. You also don't have to remember to flip the switch.

Just thinking out loud. I understand that there are "reasons" for some things, but this seems to be making things extra difficult for little reward.
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07-08-2021 at 10:17 AM.
07-08-2021 at 10:17 AM.
Quote from TeeDub :
Why do you care if it is sending signal to both devices? As long as you only turn one on, it isn't as if there is a power consumption issue. You also don't have to remember to flip the switch.

Just thinking out loud. I understand that there are "reasons" for some things, but this seems to be making things extra difficult for little reward.
Thanks.. I don't care but it seems that the electronics(more $$$) to duplicate the signal (audio and video) is more complicated that just redirecting the signal, at least from what I've read. Others with more knowledge on this topic will know more than I but thats my understanding.
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jkee
07-08-2021 at 11:20 AM.
07-08-2021 at 11:20 AM.
Quote from Scrooge :
Thanks.. I don't care but it seems that the electronics(more $$$) to duplicate the signal (audio and video) is more complicated that just redirecting the signal, at least from what I've read. Others with more knowledge on this topic will know more than I but thats my understanding.
Nope, it doesn't need to "duplicate" the signal, just a little conditioning and amplification. Two displays have to negotiate on HDCP content (copy protection encryption).

An HDMI splitter is simpler since you don't have to deal with pushing buttons on the switch or passing IR remote signals between rooms.

A matrix HDMI switch has advantages if you want to be able to direct different sources to each TV simultaneously. In this case you'd put it before the AVR and use it to switch the signal instead.
eg.
Code:
                                     AVR -> 1st TV   
                                   / 
4 sources -> 4x2 matrix hdmi switch 
                                   \
                                     2nd TV
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07-08-2021 at 11:47 AM.
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Quote from jkee :
Nope, it doesn't need to "duplicate" the signal, just a little conditioning and amplification. Two displays have to negotiate on HDCP content (copy protection encryption).

An HDMI splitter is simpler since you don't have to deal with pushing buttons on the switch or passing IR remote signals between rooms.

A matrix HDMI switch has advantages if you want to be able to direct different sources to each TV simultaneously. In this case you'd put it before the AVR and use it to switch the signal instead.
eg.
Code:
                                     AVR -> 1st TV   
                                   / 
4 sources -> 4x2 matrix hdmi switch 
                                   \
                                     2nd TV
Thanks! However, I'd like the audio to be pushed out from my AVR to my 5.1 system when using either TV1 or TV2 and on your example, the 2nd TV would only be heard through its own speakers, correct?
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07-08-2021 at 12:24 PM.
07-08-2021 at 12:24 PM.
Quote from Scrooge :
Thanks! However, I'd like the audio to be pushed out from my AVR to my 5.1 system when using either TV1 or TV2 and on your example, the 2nd TV would only be heard through its own speakers, correct?
Correct, but it's just a matter of the order you connect things (the alternative making the switch somewhat pointless).

For the scenario you describe, just get an HDMI splitter.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15252
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15651
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