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AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Processor + MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard @Newegg $350

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Jul 24, 2021
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getbigtony
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Glanced real fast and thought it was a 570 board!
Newegg disclaimer says it doesn't guarantee compatibility, so buyer beware. You may not have the up to date bios to support the CPU.
Then you'd have to somehow borrow an older CPU to update, or has it gotten to the point where you don't need a CPU to update? Haven't built a rig for myself in over 10 years, and I'm getting ready for it.
TIA

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few mobos have the flashback feature to update w/o CPU
https://www.wepc.com/tips/bios-up...x470-b450/
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X...S-MAX.html
Last edited by getbigtony July 24, 2021 at 08:22 AM.
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newer stock may have the latest bios, worst case you can always go the loaner chip route or have MSI ship a motherboard with the correct bios via RMA,

Quote from getbigtony :
Glanced real fast and thought it was a 570 board!
Newegg disclaimer says it doesn't guarantee compatibility, so buyer beware. You may not have the up to date bios to support the CPU.
Then you'd have to somehow borrow an older CPU to update, or has it gotten to the point where you don't need a CPU to update? Haven't built a rig for myself in over 10 years, and I'm getting ready for it.
TIA

edit:
few mobos have the flashback feature to update w/o CPU
https://www.wepc.com/tips/bios-up...x470-b450/
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X...S-MAX.html
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getbigtony
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you should've just added the MSI part because you basically repeated what i said.
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TacoBellEnjoyer69
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Looking to upgrade from my intel i5-9400f which is throttling my graphics card to a 5600k and need a new mobo. Might pull the trigger on this. Aside from having to update the bios - is there any major difference between the 470 and 570 mobo? Will the 570 get better performance out of the CPU? Just trying to decide if it's worth it to pay the extra money
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Quote from JeremyM21 :
Looking to upgrade from my intel i5-9400f which is throttling my graphics card to a 5600k and need a new mobo. Might pull the trigger on this. Aside from having to update the bios - is there any major difference between the 470 and 570 mobo? Will the 570 get better performance out of the CPU? Just trying to decide if it's worth it to pay the extra money
The mobo won't change the performance of the CPU. This seens like a good deal for what you're getting if you're on a budget. I don't know about this mobo, but it's important to look into things like how good the voltage regulation module (VRM) is, and known mobo issues (some mobos are notoriously more buggy than others) to get an idea of long term and sustained performance. I bet there's a youtube video thats tested this mobos performance. In the long run it can be better to pay the extra money for a better mobo if this ones known to be bad. you'll have more future upgrade potential with a newer one too.

I've had this CPU with an ASAS TUF gaming x570 plus (wifi) for almost a year and I love it. I've had 0 issues. This new series of AMD processors is designed to work closely with the RAM to increase performance so it's important to get RAM with the right specs. I have this RAM [newegg.com](16x2 GB. 3600 mhz, CL18). IMO, 3600 mhz and CL18 is the sweet spot for price/performance with these CPUs. There would be a performance increase going from CL18 -> CL16, and with higher RAM mhz but the performance doesn't justify the cost.

To really min/max the CPUs performance, having 2 sticks of dual-channel ram gives better performance than 4 sticks of single channel (if you're not a gamer it likely wont be noticeable, just the kinda stuff you find out though benchmarking tests). My mobo had a setting to automatically adjust RAM timing to maximize CPU performance. Not sure if this one has that feature but it's very nice and saved me the trouble of doing it manually like his one may require.
Last edited by enjoi971 July 26, 2021 at 08:19 AM.
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Quote from JeremyM21 :
Looking to upgrade from my intel i5-9400f which is throttling my graphics card to a 5600k and need a new mobo. Might pull the trigger on this. Aside from having to update the bios - is there any major difference between the 470 and 570 mobo? Will the 570 get better performance out of the CPU? Just trying to decide if it's worth it to pay the extra money

The big perks you'd get that might improve performance with 570 over 470 are:

PCIe4 in the chipset (probably not super noticable on its own, but might be a big deal with the directstorage API coming)

Better VRMs, so maybe more overclocking potential

More, faster, USB ports

At stock clocks, and without directstorage, you're not gonna see more than 1-2% improvement with a 570 board over a 470 all else being equal... but with OC or DS, you might see a worthwhile one.

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