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expiredcadams22 posted Aug 23, 2021 02:45 PM
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Costco Members: Dell XPS Tower: Intel i7 11700, 512GB M.2 SSD, RTX 3060 GPU

+ $10 S/H

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Costco Wholesale has Dell XPS Intel Tower (11th Gen; XPS8940-7159BLK-PUS) on sale for $1299.99. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks to community member cadams22 for finding this deal

Note, must login to your Costco account w/ an active Costco membership to purchase.

Specs/Key Features
  • Intel Core i7 11700 8-Core 2.5GHz Processor (11th Gen)
  • 512GB M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive SSD + 1TB HDD (7200 RPM)
  • 32GB DDR4 Memory (2933MHz)
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • WiFi 6 AX1650i (2x2) Wireless w/ Bluetooth 5.1
  • Tray load DVD Drive (Read/Writes)
  • Dell Multimedia Keyboard/Wired Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
    • Inputs
      • 7x SuperSpeed USB 3.1 (Gen 1 Type A)
      • 2x USB 2.0 Type-A
      • SuperSpeed USB 3.1 (Gen 1 Type-C)
      • 3x Re-Taskable Jacks
      • RJ-45 LAN
Warranty
  • Includes 1-Year Dell OnSite Service w/ Remote Diagnosis w/ standard warranty + 2nd year Costco warranty (free technical support) + 6-Months Dell Migrate Service w/ purchase

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • Price Research: Purchase this device today and save $200 Off (13.33% Savings) from the original list price of $1499.99. This savings does not factor any additional shipping/handling cost
  • This Dell XPS features the new 11th gen Intel processor powered that can easily handle all your creative projects, like editing photos/videos' or the ultimate gaming
  • Limit of 5 per member
  • Item typically arrives within 5-7 business days from time of purchase
  • Offer valid through September 12, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Written by cadams22
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Costco Wholesale has Dell XPS Intel Tower (11th Gen; XPS8940-7159BLK-PUS) on sale for $1299.99. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks to community member cadams22 for finding this deal

Note, must login to your Costco account w/ an active Costco membership to purchase.

Specs/Key Features
  • Intel Core i7 11700 8-Core 2.5GHz Processor (11th Gen)
  • 512GB M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive SSD + 1TB HDD (7200 RPM)
  • 32GB DDR4 Memory (2933MHz)
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • WiFi 6 AX1650i (2x2) Wireless w/ Bluetooth 5.1
  • Tray load DVD Drive (Read/Writes)
  • Dell Multimedia Keyboard/Wired Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
    • Inputs
      • 7x SuperSpeed USB 3.1 (Gen 1 Type A)
      • 2x USB 2.0 Type-A
      • SuperSpeed USB 3.1 (Gen 1 Type-C)
      • 3x Re-Taskable Jacks
      • RJ-45 LAN
Warranty
  • Includes 1-Year Dell OnSite Service w/ Remote Diagnosis w/ standard warranty + 2nd year Costco warranty (free technical support) + 6-Months Dell Migrate Service w/ purchase

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • Price Research: Purchase this device today and save $200 Off (13.33% Savings) from the original list price of $1499.99. This savings does not factor any additional shipping/handling cost
  • This Dell XPS features the new 11th gen Intel processor powered that can easily handle all your creative projects, like editing photos/videos' or the ultimate gaming
  • Limit of 5 per member
  • Item typically arrives within 5-7 business days from time of purchase
  • Offer valid through September 12, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Nutter
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I wish people (who maybe don't even own this PC) would stop with the claims that it's no good, needs a new case, or that nothing can be done. It's just not true.

For anyone with doubts or questions, the small stock CPU cooler should be replaced, you may add or replace additional fans as you see fit. You can comfortably use an RTX 3060 or 3070 in this case with the stock 500W PSU.

I have the XPS 8940 with an i7-11700 and an EVGA RTX3070 XC3 Ultra. I upgraded the CPU Cooler to a Twin Fan Noctua NH-U9S, I replaced the rear 80mm fan with a Noctua 93mm NF-A9 and added a 120mm Fan with a 3-D printed holder to the front.

I have ZERO problems with the:
PSU (stock 500W), no shutdowns or reboots, nothing.
CPU even when stress testing with Prime95, PC Mark or Intell ETU temps sit at a high of 76C-77C with an occasional spike to 80C
GPU Runs great, under benchmarking its temp sits at an average of 56C

Here is a link to a recent 3DMark Time Spy on this system.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64192629

Picture of my XPS with the mods.
sdaddict001
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Problem is that while you can do all those things to make it usable, the cost of doing all that is quite a lot for someone who just shelled out $1300 ($1400+ with tax) on a new PC. Now you're talking additional $100 to $150 in extra parts to get the system to be cooler. And what's worse is that if you just leave the case open, you will see a direct drop of the temp by at least 10 degrees. That's insane difference and confirms that the case is badly designed. While I am super happy with my XPS 8940, I am still mad at Dell everyday for building this ridiculous case for it. And who the hell builds a desktop case with a slim drive slot for DVD drive? It was on me for not knowing this before hand but the damn slim drive meant I can't use the bluray drive that I already had in my previous build. I won't be able to just swap it out. No, I need to spend yet another $50 for external bluray drive enclosure or fork up the money for new slim bluray drive. It's just very poorly designed and it doesn't matter how you slice and dice this, it sucks. Anyways, I like the system for what I paid for but man it made me hate dell so much after going through this. Specifically the idiots at Dell who designed this shitty case.
aznxenon
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This is what I did for my wife's XPS. Added a Vetroo v5 cooler for $20, then 3D printed a front mounting bracket to put a 120mm case fan in the front. Rear exhaust is a crappy 80mm but can be upgraded to 92mm

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn....e=61481C3B

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Aug 24, 2021 02:03 PM
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supermangoAug 24, 2021 02:03 PM
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Quote from sdaddict001 :
You can definitely use it that for that without doing any upgrades. The cooling upgrades are only required if you're going to be gaming heavily. Under normal conditions, the computer does not generate excess heat to warrant any cooling upgrades.
How's this for 4K video editing? Would this have heating issues? I'm not a gamer... just a video editor.
Aug 24, 2021 02:22 PM
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JL514Aug 24, 2021 02:22 PM
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Quote from lelcomedygold :
if you're thinking about pulling the 3060 to flip on ebay, Dell uses custom PCBs on their video cards that prevent the use in other systems.
This isn't true, all of dell cards I've seen seem to be unbranded made by MSI, and they work fine in other systems.

Quote from Nutter :

I have ZERO problems with the:
PSU (stock 500W), no shutdowns or reboots, nothing.
The stock 500W PSU was problematic for me with the 2060 Super - GPUZ showed the card hitting performance cap due to power issues, voltage delivery, voltage reliability etc. Dell replaced the PSU via in person service and the new PSU had fewer performance issues, but buzzed non-stop with a rock tumber/gravel-ey sound. They came and replaced it again and it still buzzes but much softer.



For cooling - I added an arctic freezer i13xco which bolts on to the existing cooler standoffs, and I've just left the side panel off. Will be a dust nightmare long term but temps are good Big Grin
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Aug 24, 2021 03:15 PM
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NutterAug 24, 2021 03:15 PM
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Quote from supermango :
How's this for 4K video editing? Would this have heating issues? I'm not a gamer... just a video editor.
For me using Adobe Premiere the CPU does get hit hard, it's not required but you would benefit from upgrading the CPU Cooler. As others have mentioned it's a $20-30 part if you go with something like the Vetroo v5. I came from an i7-9700 and the i7-11700 in this PC is noticeably faster, particularly when it comes to finalizing (render and export) the video.
Aug 24, 2021 03:46 PM
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7minutessoberAug 24, 2021 03:46 PM
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Quote from Nutter :
I wish people (who maybe don't even own this PC) would stop with the claims that it's no good, needs a new case, or that nothing can be done. It's just not true.

For anyone with doubts or questions, the small stock CPU cooler should be replaced, you may add or replace additional fans as you see fit. You can comfortably use an RTX 3060 or 3070 in this case with the stock 500W PSU.

I have the XPS 8940 with an i7-11700 and an EVGA RTX3070 XC3 Ultra. I upgraded the CPU Cooler to a Twin Fan Noctua NH-U9S, I replaced the rear 80mm fan with a Noctua 93mm NF-A9 and added a 120mm Fan with a 3-D printed holder to the front.

I have ZERO problems with the:
PSU (stock 500W), no shutdowns or reboots, nothing.
CPU even when stress testing with Prime95, PC Mark or Intell ETU temps sit at a high of 76C-77C with an occasional spike to 80C
GPU Runs great, under benchmarking its temp sits at an average of 56C

Here is a link to a recent 3DMark Time Spy on this system.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64192629

Picture of my XPS with the mods.
Listen: Every PC thread needs to be overrun by uninformed idiots screaming about MUH AIRFLO, even if it's a system from a builder whose machines regularly run for decades in business environments getting far more use than their weekend fortnight binges.

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Aug 24, 2021 03:50 PM
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7minutessoberAug 24, 2021 03:50 PM
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Quote from sdaddict001 :
Problem is that while you can do all those things to make it usable, the cost of doing all that is quite a lot for someone who just shelled out $1300 ($1400+ with tax) on a new PC. Now you're talking additional $100 to $150 in extra parts to get the system to be cooler. And what's worse is that if you just leave the case open, you will see a direct drop of the temp by at least 10 degrees. That's insane difference and confirms that the case is badly designed. While I am super happy with my XPS 8940, I am still mad at Dell everyday for building this ridiculous case for it. And who the hell builds a desktop case with a slim drive slot for DVD drive? It was on me for not knowing this before hand but the damn slim drive meant I can't use the bluray drive that I already had in my previous build. I won't be able to just swap it out. No, I need to spend yet another $50 for external bluray drive enclosure or fork up the money for new slim bluray drive. It's just very poorly designed and it doesn't matter how you slice and dice this, it sucks. Anyways, I like the system for what I paid for but man it made me hate dell so much after going through this. Specifically the idiots at Dell who designed this shitty case.
Were your temps within spec and below the component throttle?
Aug 24, 2021 04:09 PM
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b.armsAug 24, 2021 04:09 PM
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Quote from Nutter :
I wish people (who maybe don't even own this PC) would stop with the claims that it's no good, needs a new case, or that nothing can be done. It's just not true.

For anyone with doubts or questions, the small stock CPU cooler should be replaced, you may add or replace additional fans as you see fit. You can comfortably use an RTX 3060 or 3070 in this case with the stock 500W PSU.

I have the XPS 8940 with an i7-11700 and an EVGA RTX3070 XC3 Ultra. I upgraded the CPU Cooler to a Twin Fan Noctua NH-U9S, I replaced the rear 80mm fan with a Noctua 93mm NF-A9 and added a 120mm Fan with a 3-D printed holder to the front.

I have ZERO problems with the:
PSU (stock 500W), no shutdowns or reboots, nothing.
CPU even when stress testing with Prime95, PC Mark or Intell ETU temps sit at a high of 76C-77C with an occasional spike to 80C
GPU Runs great, under benchmarking its temp sits at an average of 56C

Here is a link to a recent 3DMark Time Spy on this system.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64192629

Picture of my XPS with the mods.
#1, I doubt that GPU stays that cool while benchmarking, in any system or case. What exactly are you using to benchmark? I use Furmark to benchmark GPU temps.
EDIT: Nevermind, overlooked your Timespy link. That is indeed good temps, but I tend to stress-test for temps. Even if it isn't real-world (neither is Timespy), it shows worse-case scenario.

#2, Good to see that you can use aftermarket coolers in this system. I honestly wasn't sure, and said as much. Still should probably double-check the cooler height before buying one though to make sure the side panel can close.

#3, No shutdowns or reboots doesn't mean you aren't stressing the PSU. that just means you aren't triggering protection circuits. I wouldn't rely on Dell OEM PSUs to have trustworthy OPP or OCP either. A basic 3070 recommends at least a 650W PSU. You're tempting fate IMHO.
Last edited by b.arms August 24, 2021 at 09:15 AM.
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Aug 24, 2021 04:31 PM
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NutterAug 24, 2021 04:31 PM
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Quote from b.arms :
#1, I doubt that GPU stays that cool while benchmarking, in any system or case. What exactly are you using to benchmark? I use Furmark to benchmark GPU temps.

#2, Good to see that you can use aftermarket coolers in this system. I honestly wasn't sure, and said as much. Still should probably double-check the cooler height before buying one though to make sure the side panel can close.

#3, No shutdowns or reboots doesn't mean you aren't stressing the PSU. that just means you aren't triggering protection circuits. I wouldn't rely on Dell OEM PSUs to have trustworthy OPP or OCP either. A basic 3070 recommends at least a 650W PSU. You're tempting fate IMHO.
Click the link to the benchmark result I posted, you can see the recorded temp right in the benchmark. The EVGA RTX3070 XC3 Ultra is a triple fand card, in fact, its the fan and heatsink assembly from the EVGA RTX3080. This card runs cool, even when gaming or mining.

Using EVGA Power calculator [evga.com], with the following:
1x RTX3070
Intel Z590 / Z490 chipset
i7-11700 CPU
1x SSD
1x HDD
Not over-clocked

Gives a recommended PSU Wattage Calculated: 453W

I have a P3 P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor, during all my benchmark tests I never saw a power draw over 375W. The stock 500W PSU is just fine.
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Aug 24, 2021 04:36 PM
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b.armsAug 24, 2021 04:36 PM
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Quote from 7minutessober :
Listen: Every PC thread needs to be overrun by uninformed idiots screaming about MUH AIRFLO, even if it's a system from a builder whose machines regularly run for decades in business environments getting far more use than their weekend fortnight binges.
The guy defending this thing even recommends swapping out the CPU cooler and fan. lol

Dell's enterprise and business customers typically lease the machines, and Dell makes money hand-over-fist with that subscription model. While those machines tend to be more reliable, they don't even have to be. Dell happily swaps out machines that screw up, replace whatever component that goes bad, then deploy them to another lease customer or sell them on DellOutlet. It's win/win, they can cheap out on components, and the "service" that comes with the overpriced lease seems justified to the customer.

To the Dell business division, none of my criticisms of their consumer products apply mainly because they tend to lease, but also because they often don't use as much proprietary crap in their workstations, or at least they didn't used to. Either way, it's apples and oranges.
Aug 24, 2021 04:39 PM
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7minutessoberAug 24, 2021 04:39 PM
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Quote from b.arms :
The guy defending this thing even recommends swapping out the CPU cooler and fan. lol

Dell's enterprise and business customers typically lease the machines, and Dell makes money hand-over-fist with that subscription model. While those machines tend to be more reliable, they don't even have to be. Dell happily swaps out machines that screw up, replace whatever component that goes bad, then deploy them to another lease customer or sell them on DellOutlet. It's win/win, they can cheap out on components, and the "service" that comes with the overpriced lease seems justified to the customer.

To the Dell business division, none of my criticisms of their consumer products apply mainly because they tend to lease, but also because they often don't use as much proprietary crap in their workstations, or at least they didn't used to. Either way, it's apples and oranges.
And did the guy defending it or you post temps?
What are the OHNOES terrible temps?

Are they within spec and below throttle? If so, it's just more whining on Slickdeals like always.
Aug 24, 2021 04:44 PM
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b.armsAug 24, 2021 04:44 PM
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Quote from Nutter :
The stock 500W PSU is just fine.
My main concern is that it's an OEM PSU, and as someone who has swapped out a fair share of Dell OEM PSUs, I tend to not trust them, especially if they are anywhere close to being stressed from aftermarket components.

And I edited my earlier post already, I somehow overlooked your Timespy link and didn't notice it until I hit the "Post Reply" button.
Aug 24, 2021 04:54 PM
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b.armsAug 24, 2021 04:54 PM
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Quote from 7minutessober :
And did the guy defending it or you post temps?
What are the OHNOES terrible temps?

Are they within spec and below throttle? If so, it's just more whining on Slickdeals like always.
He posted temps after his modifications. Airflow criticism still stands.
The biggest issue to me, if it's not obvious by reading my fist post in this thread, isn't necessarily the airflow. My biggest issue is the proprietary hardware Dell uses, particularly the PSU and Motherboard format. It makes replacing damaged components damn near impossible for a reasonable cost, and often makes upgrades just as difficult. HP and Lenovo are guilty of it too, but they usually aren't as bad except in the absolute cheapest of models.
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kschlegeAug 24, 2021 05:19 PM
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Quote from Horsesock :
Buy this. Tear it apart. Pick up a few more gpus. Build a mining rig.
and kill the earth just a little bit quicker ...
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scoobyazAug 24, 2021 05:20 PM
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Honest question - why bother charging a $10 shipping fee on this item? Just tack it onto the price & call it free shipping like everyone else
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sdaddict001Aug 24, 2021 05:24 PM
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Quote from 7minutessober :
Were your temps within spec and below the component throttle?
yeah I'm sure it was within spec because of built-in thermal protection but not sure about component throttle. I didn't do any measurements like that. I was only concerned about the GPU temps and CPU temps being not so crazy. I wanted to have both under 60c under load and I think right now with three additional fans, I'm able to achieve that. Note, I did not replace CPU cooler which could have helped CPU temp drastically but my focus was on the GPU as the 2060 super card only comes with one fan.

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Aug 24, 2021 05:27 PM
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MatthewL4509Aug 24, 2021 05:27 PM
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TO summarize most of this thread;

everyone agrees stock cooling is bad. putting in different fans is highly recommended. Costs can vary from $30-$150 depending on what coolers you get and what mounting hardware you need to buy.

In terms of future upgrades/swappability, Dell has lots of proprietary parts and usually makes it difficult to put in new parts/put these parts into something else. With that being said, it is usually possible, it just might need some custom work here and there.

You can buy the PC and it'll be usable out of the box, it just might run hot and thermal throttle, causing reductions in performance. If you want to get the most out of it, you'll need to put in a little more legwork and financial investment.

With the current state of market, it'll be hard to find anything that's a good pre-built straight out the gate and won't need some customization.

Happy slick dealing y'all Smilie)
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