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Hubitat Elevation Home Automation C-7 Hub, $115 (Reg $129.95) w/free shipping

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Pick up a Hubitat Elevation Model C-7 home automation hub. Regularly $130, on sale for $115, with code "LABORDAY" through 6 September (possibly 7 September, as both dates are mentioned in the e-mail)

This is their somewhat regular sale price and, although not mentioned in the e-mail, seems to have free expedited shipping, this time around. Not sure if just the U.S. version or applies to others as well.

https://hubitat.com/products
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Pick up a Hubitat Elevation Model C-7 home automation hub. Regularly $130, on sale for $115, with code "LABORDAY" through 6 September (possibly 7 September, as both dates are mentioned in the e-mail)

This is their somewhat regular sale price and, although not mentioned in the e-mail, seems to have free expedited shipping, this time around. Not sure if just the U.S. version or applies to others as well.

https://hubitat.com/products

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Sep 03, 2021 02:17 PM
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mwenenkoSep 03, 2021 02:17 PM
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Any idea what is the difference between US and North America Version? Are there any functional differences?
Sep 03, 2021 02:34 PM
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mwenenkoSep 03, 2021 02:34 PM
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Quote from mwenenko :
Any idea what is the difference between US and North America Version? Are there any functional differences?
Had some more coffee and read again.. figured out šŸ˜€ā€¦ the keyword was "territories"

Bought one.. thanks OP
Sep 03, 2021 05:52 PM
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Danimal86Sep 03, 2021 05:52 PM
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Might be time to retire the 2nd gen smart things hub.

Anything magical about it....heard offline automations and local processing is the big items?
Sep 03, 2021 05:59 PM
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zen313Sep 03, 2021 05:59 PM
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Quote from Danimal86 :
Might be time to retire the 2nd gen smart things hub.

Anything magical about it....heard offline automations and local processing is the big items?

I was looking at this too, but didn't SmartThings just release offline automations and local processing as well?


Yes, they did.. sort of?


https://staceyoniot.com/smartthin...nd-diyers/
Sep 03, 2021 06:07 PM
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Danimal86Sep 03, 2021 06:07 PM
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Quote from zen313 :
I was looking at this too, but didn't SmartThings just release offline automations and local processing as well?


Yes, they did.. sort of?


https://staceyoniot.com/smartthin...nd-diyers/
Didn't know they released that. I skimmed the article, so it's only on gen3?
Sep 03, 2021 06:11 PM
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GravitySep 03, 2021 06:11 PM
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I have been running Hubitat at my vacation house for about 2 years. I tried SmartThings and a few of the WiFI hubs, and ended up with this. It is hands down the best aggregator hub for home automation (for my application) - but to really get the most out of it you do need to spend time designing your Smart home setup. SmartThings is dumb-ed down and because of that, it is very limited, and it sucks Internet Bandwidth like a drunk working at a liqueur store. Hubitat is so low bandwidth, that I stuck it on a Phone Hotspot that I have on a family plan for $20/month (cheaper than going with a $50-80 home internet subscription). I am buying another one to keep as a backup because now I rely on it so heavily for managing the house environment that I cant afford to wait for a replacement if it were to die.
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Quote from Gravity :
I have been running Hubitat at my vacation house for about 2 years. I tried SmartThings and a few of the WiFI hubs, and ended up with this...
Yeah, pretty much my assessment. I really don't like the idea of my automation being internet dependent, so that pares the list of choices down quite a bit.

This seemed to have the most bang for buck, manufacturers' support, and a huge community of users. There are some other "local" options and certainly, some of the "brew your own" open-source, Raspberry Pi, etc. things have some advantages. My techie/geeky side was leaning that way, but in the end, I decided the learning and research wasn't worth it and glad I made the decision. Been very happy so far with making the transition to Hubitat.

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Sep 03, 2021 07:28 PM
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zen313Sep 03, 2021 07:28 PM
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Quote from Danimal86 :
Didn't know they released that. I skimmed the article, so it's only on gen3?

No, the PR statement from Samsung states it will be for gen 2 as well.
Sep 03, 2021 07:45 PM
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coachclassSep 03, 2021 07:45 PM
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Quote from zen313 :
I was looking at this too, but didn't SmartThings just release offline automations and local processing as well?


Yes, they did.. sort of?


https://staceyoniot.com/smartthin...nd-diyers/
SmartThings has been half-assing the local processing thing for years now. I don't think it fits their business model.
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Sep 03, 2021 09:33 PM
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zen313Sep 03, 2021 09:33 PM
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Quote from coachclass :
SmartThings has been half-assing the local processing thing for years now. I don't think it fits their business model.

Partially agree... but the work involved in switching to another system at this point is far beyond what I'm willing to put in to reprogram everything. When I got into home automation 14 years ago, I spent oodles of time working out bugs and things with Vera... but now... time is money.
Sep 04, 2021 12:12 AM
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ViperDaSnakeSep 04, 2021 12:12 AM
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Looks like I'm going to give this a whirl.
I don't have a hub but I have plenty of smart devices that depend on the cloud.
Sep 04, 2021 12:38 AM
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funzieSep 04, 2021 12:38 AM
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I've been using Hubitat for a couple years now. However there are better options out there and I am moving away from them. This product is good if you want something that is simple, plug and play and you don't need it to do very advance stuff. UI is very poor but usable compared to other hubs. I've found it very slow and inconsistent at times. Developing for it is a bit of a pain too.

While local automations is a big plus, it lacks in other things unless you pay a monthly subscription. For example device backups. You can back it up, but if you factory reset and restore the backup you lose all your devices and need to configure them again. Or the case that happen to me, twice the devices database got corrupted and I had to re-associate 50+ devices twice.

Over the last year they have had a lot of feature improvements which are nice. Have also released a new hub, but unfortunately didn't really upgrade processor or anything else other than the Z-Wave radio from what I remember. But they are really looking into monetizing it by subscription or selling third party software. Which does limit features unless you pay to play.

In short, it's a really good starter hub or if you need simple automations and not many devices.
Sep 04, 2021 01:42 AM
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cantalupSep 04, 2021 01:42 AM
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Quote from funzie :
I've been using Hubitat for a couple years now. However there are better options out there and I am moving away from them. This product is good if you want something that is simple, plug and play and you don't need it to do very advance stuff. UI is very poor but usable compared to other hubs. I've found it very slow and inconsistent at times. Developing for it is a bit of a pain too.

While local automations is a big plus, it lacks in other things unless you pay a monthly subscription. For example device backups. You can back it up, but if you factory reset and restore the backup you lose all your devices and need to configure them again. Or the case that happen to me, twice the devices database got corrupted and I had to re-associate 50+ devices twice.

Over the last year they have had a lot of feature improvements which are nice. Have also released a new hub, but unfortunately didn't really upgrade processor or anything else other than the Z-Wave radio from what I remember. But they are really looking into monetizing it by subscription or selling third party software. Which does limit features unless you pay to play.

In short, it's a really good starter hub or if you need simple automations and not many devices.
It fits for mešŸ˜„

Offline and api access via local network are my main needs.

Having hass and hubitat working together is priceless….

I used to all in one hass with zwave/zigbee , but took extra times before adding hubitat for local acess through LAN through hass.

Yeah hubitat UI is ugly ha. But hass UI is very polished on my understanding

Ups is a must to avoid corruption when having black out or flickering. Hubitat must be shut down properly to avoid data corruption
Last edited by cantalup September 3, 2021 at 06:52 PM.
Sep 04, 2021 02:08 AM
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Danimal86Sep 04, 2021 02:08 AM
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Quote from funzie :
I've been using Hubitat for a couple years now. However there are better options out there and I am moving away from them. This product is good if you want something that is simple, plug and play and you don't need it to do very advance stuff. UI is very poor but usable compared to other hubs. I've found it very slow and inconsistent at times. Developing for it is a bit of a pain too.

While local automations is a big plus, it lacks in other things unless you pay a monthly subscription. For example device backups. You can back it up, but if you factory reset and restore the backup you lose all your devices and need to configure them again. Or the case that happen to me, twice the devices database got corrupted and I had to re-associate 50+ devices twice.

Over the last year they have had a lot of feature improvements which are nice. Have also released a new hub, but unfortunately didn't really upgrade processor or anything else other than the Z-Wave radio from what I remember. But they are really looking into monetizing it by subscription or selling third party software. Which does limit features unless you pay to play.

In short, it's a really good starter hub or if you need simple automations and not many devices.
What are you moving to? Im outgrowing smart things but don't want to jump around to different hubs until I strike gold

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Sep 04, 2021 03:07 AM
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funzieSep 04, 2021 03:07 AM
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Quote from Danimal86 :
What are you moving to? Im outgrowing smart things but don't want to jump around to different hubs until I strike gold
I have a VM on my home server running Home Assistant. It immediately picked up my alarm panel, water heater, and solar inverter, without having to hunt around or even develop my own Apps. What's better is that I can query the solar inverter directly instead of going through the cloud, giving me instant data. Hubitat couldn't do that.

I'm about halfway migrating all my Z-Wave and Zigbee devices. No issues so far.

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