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$136 seems really cheap for the 2TB Team Group. I could replace my 2TB WD Blue hard drive (used for Lightroom photos) but not sure what I'd do with the hard drive, lol.
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$136 seems really cheap for the 2TB Team Group. I could replace my 2TB WD Blue hard drive (used for Lightroom photos) but not sure what I'd do with the hard drive, lol.
assuming you don't have a spare bay, throw it in an enclosure and use it as a backup drive
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People are sleeping on that Team Group CX2 2TB SSD; you won't beat that price per TB for game storage.
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Team Group is OOS now.
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~$18 WD Green 128GB, good for mining rigs.
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Team CX2 is dram-less so more for archival storage or mostly read only use cases. In other words, the same use cases where a hard drive would be just fine for much cheaper. Smilie
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Any of these compatible with PS5?
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I would warn against buying the 2TB PNY XLR8 CS3030 M.2 2280 NVMe SSD unless you know what you are getting into...

PNY Quietly Reduces XLR8 CS3030 SSD's Endurance by Almost 80% [tomshardware.com]

PNY Slashes SSD Endurance Rating By Up To 80 Percent Due To Chia Crypto Mining Mania [hothardware.com]
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Quote from califsun30 :
I would warn against buying the 2TB PNY XLR8 CS3030 M.2 2280 NVMe SSD unless you know what you are getting into...

PNY Quietly Reduces XLR8 CS3030 SSD's Endurance by Almost 80% [tomshardware.com]

PNY Slashes SSD Endurance Rating By Up To 80 Percent Due To Chia Crypto Mining Mania [hothardware.com]
What exactly do you think one is getting into?

Not that I would recommend it at this price.
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being DRAM-less in and of itself doesn't make an SSD slow to that extent.
WD Blue and Crucial BX500 are other examples of perfectly fine SATA SSDs, DRAMless and fast. any latency penalty is in nano-seconds vs millisecs in an HDD

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Team CX2 is dram-less so more for archival storage or mostly read only use cases. In other words, the same use cases where a hard drive would be just fine for much cheaper. Smilie
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~$18 WD Green 128GB, good for mining rigs.
If using NiceHash to mine does add make a difference? I turned my old rig into a dedicated mining box but swapped out the ssd for a hdd. Hash rate seems to be the same on 1660s
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If using NiceHash to mine does add make a difference? I turned my old rig into a dedicated mining box but swapped out the ssd for a hdd. Hash rate seems to be the same on 1660s
Honestly don't know but SSD's are so prevalent that most people are using them in rigs. From what I understand you need matching memory or virtual memory (paging file) for all of your VRAM, even if it isn't really being used. So I don't know how an HDD which may be running continuously or going to sleep works with that.
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being DRAM-less in and of itself doesn't make an SSD slow to that extent.
WD Blue and Crucial BX500 are other examples of perfectly fine SATA SSDs, DRAMless and fast. any latency penalty is in nano-seconds vs millisecs in an HDD
Depends on the use.

1. TLC Nands are very slow in writes compared to SLC Nands. If you have SLC based SSD, then direct SLC write without dynamic or static cache is fine. But direct TLC writes are not only significantly lower but also suffer from write amplification when you have small writes. This is in the noticeably slower difference range.

2. You can provide a dynamic cache (dram) to cache writes and aggregate writes to TLC Nand and make that difference disappear for all practical purposes and reduce write amplification. But this is an expensive solution, so most budget SSDs don't have this.

3. An intermediate solution is to provide an SLC cache with or without a DRAM. Which makes the SSD as fast as a SLC SSD but only when cache isn't full. Once the cache gets full, it falls back to TLC speeds as in 1 above. So small bursty read/writes are OK. But as soon as you get into sustained writes which can fill up the cache you have a noticeable slow down.

What this means is that DRAM-less SSDs with SLC cache are perfectly fine for things like boot disks and casual desktop use. But you don't typically need large capacity drives for that purpose.

When you go to 2TB range of capacity, the use cases are generally media or game data. If they are primarily reads, then hard drives are just fine as they are able to fill the buffers faster than you can process them. But if they involve writes which are typically sustained large data writes, then you suffer from the direct TLC writes and unpredictably so which in some gaming situations can affect performance (a constant read/write is sometimes more optimal than varying performance due to buffering decisions).

Some people have started to use high capacity SSDs for NAS. Dram-less ones can be problematic here because of the variability of write performance. Depending on the NAS configuration, the writes can be held down to the slowest device and so the performance can dramatically drop at times. This can get really bad in RAID rebuild situations.

So bottom line. For boot drives and small storage needs, dram-less but with SLC cache for TLC Nands is fine. If you have large storage requirements then either an SSD with dram or a HDD might be better options (latter for better value) depending on your use case. A plex server primarily streaming or a video player playing a stored movie, for example, won't show much if any difference between a HDD and a SSD and so the higher cost of an SSD isn't justified with or without DRAM.

This becomes a factor as the size of the SSDs go up like in the 2TB range.
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Waiting for 4tb deals. I'm done with 2tb's...
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