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ECOVACS Robotics - DEEBOT T8+ Vacuum & Mop Robot with Advanced Laser Mapping and 3D Obstacle Detection & Avoidance - Grey $449.99

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Best Buy has the T8+ on sale again at $499. Last year's BF price was $450 but not sure if we'll see it drop to that again. This qualifies for extended holiday return policy.

ECOVACS DEEBOT OZMO T8+ is an all-in-one vacuuming and mopping robot with TrueDetect advanced 3D obstacle avoidance. It detects and cleans around furniture and objects like shoes and cords for hassle-free, uninterrupted cleaning. TrueMapping™ laser navigation scans, maps, and plans an efficient cleaning path faster and more precisely to prevent missed or repeated areas. The OZMO™️ mopping system vacuums and mops in one go, with precise water flow control and automatic carpet detection and avoidance. The Auto-Empty Station conveniently empties the dustbin into a disposable bag for weeks of maintenance-free cleaning.

Features

Simultaneous Vacuuming and Mopping

Vacuums and mops at same time, and automatically avoids carpet when mopping.

Advanced Obstacle Avoidance

Detects objects like cables, slippers, and furniture down to the millimeter level, to avoid and clean around them.

Precision Mapping of your Home

Maps your home using advanced laser technology.

Auto-Empty Station

Charges your DEEBOT T8, and automates emptying of the dustbin into a convenient disposable dust bag

3 Hours of Runtime

Uninterrupted cleaning in larger homes – up to 3,200 square feet on a single charge.

Advanced Custom Cleaning

Full app control with scheduling, unlimited virtual boundaries, custom areas and rooms, and multi-floor mapping.


What's Included

1 Deebot Ozmo T8 Robot

1 Auto-Empty Station with 2 disposable bags

1 Washable Mopping Pad

5 Disposable Mopping Pads

2 Bonus Replacement Side Brushes

1 Bonus Replacement Air Filter

1 Instruction Manual

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ecov...212&loc=1&
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10-20-2021 at 05:26 AM.
10-20-2021 at 05:26 AM.
Thoughts on this vs Roborock or something else? I have mostly wood floors and a furball that likes to track litter...

Edit: Looks like they're offering an extended return periodically for the holiday season, so I ordered it. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Reviews please, I tried roborock s5 max and S6 pure. I want to know how good is this when compare to those
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10-20-2021 at 06:43 AM.
10-20-2021 at 06:43 AM.
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Reviews please, I tried roborock s5 max and S6 pure. I want to know how good is this when compare to those
Take a look at some of the older threads from Nov/Dec last year where people have compared both.


From what I recall, Roborock has a much better app and the vacs have good performance. The mop is hit or miss.


For the T8, the main advantage I see is the object avoidance and self empty (to each their own on this point). The included mop is also meh but they do offer and upgrade ($99) that vibrates. Theoretically it should be better but again, it'll depend on usage conditions.


LINK for Mop Upgrade:

https://www.ecovacs.com/us/deebot...s/OZMO-Pro
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Take a look at some of the older threads from Nov/Dec last year where people have compared both.


From what I recall, Roborock has a much better app and the vacs have good performance. The mop is hit or miss.


For the T8, the main advantage I see is the object avoidance and self empty (to each their own on this point). The included mop is also meh but they do offer and upgrade ($99) that vibrates. Theoretically it should be better but again, it'll depend on usage conditions.


LINK for Mop Upgrade:

https://www.ecovacs.com/us/deebot...s/OZMO-Pro [ecovacs.com]
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10-21-2021 at 06:54 AM.
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Alright, here's my quick review:

The app isn't terrible, with the exception of dividing areas. The bot needs to determine on the map that a "wall" is actually a wall, and not an obstacle. If you have a door with a gap at the bottom, that's not a wall... and apparently the actual wall on either side of it isn't a wall either, so you can't divide near it. This seems to be a known issue with no fix. If you have folding doors or something like a kitchen pantry , don't plan on dividing areas anywhere near it.

The bot does a pretty decent job of vacuuming; it picked up all of the cat litter outside of the bathroom, and all of the little cardboard pieces from the scratching board, etc. But the mop is pretty much useless. If you have a wet Swiffer that'll do the same thing in less time. I'm considering getting the Ozmo Pro mop accessory since that's supposed to be significantly better (and louder), and you can find it for around $35 on AliExpress (as opposed to $100 in most retailers). Speaking of loud, this thing clunks LOUDLY on hardwood floors, and it squeaks like an entire nest of rats. The latter may be fixable, but the former is not. The actual vacuum noise is fairly quiet, much less noisy than I had expected. But the self-cleaning station is as loud as an old-school standing vacuum... don't be near that when it runs.

The biggest problem, and the reason that I'll most likely be returning it, is that it can't dock. Full stop. It will crawl up to the front of the dock, inch its way up the ramp, land in place... and then grind its wheels while wiggling back and forth for about a minute, before reversing off the dock and repeating the process. Eventually it'll get stuck hanging off the dock and complain that it's off the ground, or that the wheel is stuck, etc, and it'll yell (via its speakers) for help. If it can't dock, it can't charge and it can't use the self-emptying function, which makes the whole thing essentially useless.

I'm going to try a few things to see if I can fix the docking issue, but otherwise that's a dealbreaker.
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Ok, this thing is definitely going back. I spoke with customer support regarding the docking issue and was told that "they don't recommend attempting to dock the robot while the mopping plate is attached". But the robot will _automatically_ return to the dock when it completes its task, and there's no way to change that behavior.

Which means if you run the robot on a schedule, when nobody is home to manually stop it, remove the plate, and then resume docking... it will spend the entire rest of the day banging into the charging dock until you get home or the battery dies. Their solution was to monitor its progress via the app, cancel the task when it starts to return for charging, then remove the mopping plate and let it complete docking when you get home.

They also warned me that if the robot attempts to dock while the mop is attached, that may damage the charging station. Even though that's the default and only behavior. By design, it tries to do something that it can't do and will damage itself.

How silly.
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Ok, this thing is definitely going back. I spoke with customer support regarding the docking issue and was told that "they don't recommend attempting to dock the robot while the mopping plate is attached". But the robot will _automatically_ return to the dock when it completes its task, and there's no way to change that behavior.

Which means if you run the robot on a schedule, when nobody is home to manually stop it, remove the plate, and then resume docking... it will spend the entire rest of the day banging into the charging dock until you get home or the battery dies. Their solution was to monitor its progress via the app, cancel the task when it starts to return for charging, then remove the mopping plate and let it complete docking when you get home.

They also warned me that if the robot attempts to dock while the mop is attached, that may damage the charging station. Even though that's the default and only behavior. By design, it tries to do something that it can't do and will damage itself.

How silly.
This is not accurate in my experience. I have a T8+, and I also purchased an OZMO Pro "sonic mopping" upgrade kit after using the standard OZMO module the T8+ came with. With both the standard OZMO module and the OZMO Pro, the T8 is able to leave its dock with either mopping module attached. The robot also returns into the dock after it finishes mopping with either mopping module attached. Maybe you have the dock on carpet? In that case, the robot would not leave the dock with a mopping plate attached, or return with a mopping plate attached since the robot automatically detects carpet and would not go onto it.
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10-21-2021 at 11:29 AM.
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Nope, I have exclusively wood and tile floors. I'm not sure why customer support would insist that it isn't capable of docking with the mop on and warn me multiple times of damage potential if that's not accurate. Although I suppose the rep could have been making things up because he didn't know the real solution.
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Alright, here's my quick review:

The app isn't terrible, with the exception of dividing areas. The bot needs to determine on the map that a "wall" is actually a wall, and not an obstacle. If you have a door with a gap at the bottom, that's not a wall... and apparently the actual wall on either side of it isn't a wall either, so you can't divide near it. This seems to be a known issue with no fix. If you have folding doors or something like a kitchen pantry , don't plan on dividing areas anywhere near it.

The bot does a pretty decent job of vacuuming; it picked up all of the cat litter outside of the bathroom, and all of the little cardboard pieces from the scratching board, etc. But the mop is pretty much useless. If you have a wet Swiffer that'll do the same thing in less time. I'm considering getting the Ozmo Pro mop accessory since that's supposed to be significantly better (and louder), and you can find it for around $35 on AliExpress (as opposed to $100 in most retailers). Speaking of loud, this thing clunks LOUDLY on hardwood floors, and it squeaks like an entire nest of rats. The latter may be fixable, but the former is not. The actual vacuum noise is fairly quiet, much less noisy than I had expected. But the self-cleaning station is as loud as an old-school standing vacuum... don't be near that when it runs.

The biggest problem, and the reason that I'll most likely be returning it, is that it can't dock. Full stop. It will crawl up to the front of the dock, inch its way up the ramp, land in place... and then grind its wheels while wiggling back and forth for about a minute, before reversing off the dock and repeating the process. Eventually it'll get stuck hanging off the dock and complain that it's off the ground, or that the wheel is stuck, etc, and it'll yell (via its speakers) for help. If it can't dock, it can't charge and it can't use the self-emptying function, which makes the whole thing essentially useless.

I'm going to try a few things to see if I can fix the docking issue, but otherwise that's a dealbreaker.
You mentioned your experience around mapping (dividing areas) and also that the self-cleaning station is loud. The robot would not have been able to create a map or empty its dustbin without having at least once successfully been sent out to clean from the dock, then return to the dock (triggers the map creation), and finally empting its dustbin once it returns and connects into the dock. I wonder what changed after that to then have the issues you mentioned? What were the few things you tried?
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10-21-2021 at 11:36 AM.
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Nope, I have exclusively wood and tile floors. I'm not sure why customer support would insist that it isn't capable of docking with the mop on and warn me multiple times of damage potential if that's not accurate. Although I suppose the rep could have been making things up because he didn't know the real solution.
Yea, that's definitely strange that their customer support would say that. Could be just an inexperienced rep I guess. Our T8 is definitely able to leave/return to the dock with a mopping plate already attached.
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You mentioned your experience around mapping (dividing areas) and also that the self-cleaning station is loud. The robot would not have been able to create a map or empty its dustbin without having at least once successfully been sent out to clean from the dock, then return to the dock (triggers the map creation), and finally empting its dustbin once it returns and connects into the dock. I wonder what changed after that to then have the issues you mentioned? What were the few things you tried?
I ran it without the mopping pad when I set it up the first time. It worked exactly as I expected it to; the mapping and first vacuuming went without any issues, and it docked and emptied itself. The only thing that changed since then was putting the mopping plate on and attempting to run it again. It failed to dock multiple times last night until I canceled the cleaning and put it on the dock manually, and the same thing happened again this morning when it ran a scheduled area cleaning. I've tried it both with and without the docking ramp extension, but that doesn't make any difference because it's not an issue with getting up the ramp or aligning to the ramp, it's an issue with just... not moving anymore and allowing itself to empty and charge once it is in place.
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Yea, that's definitely strange that their customer support would say that. Could be just an inexperienced rep I guess. Our T8 is definitely able to leave/return to the dock with a mopping plate already attached.
Just for fun I went back to the support chat to see if I'd get a different answer. Unfortunately, this rep (different from the one this morning) told me exactly the same thing:
https://i.imgur.com/oPnbdoL.png

"Out of safety concerns and in order to let the Deebot dock properly, we would like to suggest letting the Deebot return to the charging station without the mopping plate."

Again, if this is a "safety concern" and something that'll prevent it from working correctly... it should NOT be the default and ONLY behavior available. I do believe you guys when you say that it should work correctly while attached, which makes this response from support all the more disappointing.
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10-22-2021 at 11:09 AM.
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Mine had the docking problem as you described about one month before the warranty ends (one year), in my case was in Sept. So I contacted them for repairing and took less than two weeks to ship back and forth, now it worked fine. Actually in my case, not only it won't dock which I think mostly related to the mop module as it gets the base floor web while trying to climb up to dock, the problem I had to contact for repairing is the electronic. First it won't charge, the light kept flashing and beeping. When I was on call with the technician I was told to remove the bot from app and add again. But when adding again, the wifi module won't connect so I had no choice but send it back for repairing.
Now everything is fixed and the bot works just fine as brand new, I'm not sure the problem will come back again sometime in the future and if I can afford the repairing when it occurs. I'd admit I'm not really diligent about the maintenance and cleaning. This bot is very much self sustainable. It never stuck somewhere, I only need to replace the trash bag maybe once a month, or mount the mop module once in a while to mop. Otherwise I tend to leave it alone and ignore the minor complains the bot sometimes chime about. That might contribute to the electronic problem I've experienced.
In other words, electronics nowadays tend to be flimsy, don't count on longevity of this kind of thing. The whole idea of modern consumer product is based on "cheap to buy, frequent to replace" motto.
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Alright, here's my quick review:

The app isn't terrible, with the exception of dividing areas. The bot needs to determine on the map that a "wall" is actually a wall, and not an obstacle. If you have a door with a gap at the bottom, that's not a wall... and apparently the actual wall on either side of it isn't a wall either, so you can't divide near it. This seems to be a known issue with no fix. If you have folding doors or something like a kitchen pantry , don't plan on dividing areas anywhere near it.

The bot does a pretty decent job of vacuuming; it picked up all of the cat litter outside of the bathroom, and all of the little cardboard pieces from the scratching board, etc. But the mop is pretty much useless. If you have a wet Swiffer that'll do the same thing in less time. I'm considering getting the Ozmo Pro mop accessory since that's supposed to be significantly better (and louder), and you can find it for around $35 on AliExpress (as opposed to $100 in most retailers). Speaking of loud, this thing clunks LOUDLY on hardwood floors, and it squeaks like an entire nest of rats. The latter may be fixable, but the former is not. The actual vacuum noise is fairly quiet, much less noisy than I had expected. But the self-cleaning station is as loud as an old-school standing vacuum... don't be near that when it runs.

The biggest problem, and the reason that I'll most likely be returning it, is that it can't dock. Full stop. It will crawl up to the front of the dock, inch its way up the ramp, land in place... and then grind its wheels while wiggling back and forth for about a minute, before reversing off the dock and repeating the process. Eventually it'll get stuck hanging off the dock and complain that it's off the ground, or that the wheel is stuck, etc, and it'll yell (via its speakers) for help. If it can't dock, it can't charge and it can't use the self-emptying function, which makes the whole thing essentially useless.

I'm going to try a few things to see if I can fix the docking issue, but otherwise that's a dealbreaker.
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10-22-2021 at 11:17 AM.
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You mentioned your experience around mapping (dividing areas) and also that the self-cleaning station is loud. The robot would not have been able to create a map or empty its dustbin without having at least once successfully been sent out to clean from the dock, then return to the dock (triggers the map creation), and finally empting its dustbin once it returns and connects into the dock. I wonder what changed after that to then have the issues you mentioned? What were the few things you tried?
mapping is fine, I've used irobot and roborock in the past, deebot's app and mapping is among the best. Last year their app has the corrupted map if bot is picked without returning to dock, later on it appeared to be fixed. Now I can pick it up in the middle of cleaning and drop to dock with no harm to the map.
You can do pretty much everything, slide and dice the rooms, bar for no entry, excluding etc. on the map, change suction strength, mapping water amount etc. for each room, scheduling per room or area, about the only thing I wish they have is the mopping avoidance for rugs.
The key thing with these bots is the object avoidance so it can complete the clean all by itself. If frequent human interference is required it defeats the purpose to use a bot in the first place. But apparently this is not something the bot manufacture took to heart when they design the majority of the bots on market.
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Ok, this thing is definitely going back. I spoke with customer support regarding the docking issue and was told that "they don't recommend attempting to dock the robot while the mopping plate is attached". But the robot will _automatically_ return to the dock when it completes its task, and there's no way to change that behavior.

Which means if you run the robot on a schedule, when nobody is home to manually stop it, remove the plate, and then resume docking... it will spend the entire rest of the day banging into the charging dock until you get home or the battery dies. Their solution was to monitor its progress via the app, cancel the task when it starts to return for charging, then remove the mopping plate and let it complete docking when you get home.

They also warned me that if the robot attempts to dock while the mop is attached, that may damage the charging station. Even though that's the default and only behavior. By design, it tries to do something that it can't do and will damage itself.

How silly.
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This is not accurate in my experience. I have a T8+, and I also purchased an OZMO Pro "sonic mopping" upgrade kit after using the standard OZMO module the T8+ came with. With both the standard OZMO module and the OZMO Pro, the T8 is able to leave its dock with either mopping module attached. The robot also returns into the dock after it finishes mopping with either mopping module attached. Maybe you have the dock on carpet? In that case, the robot would not leave the dock with a mopping plate attached, or return with a mopping plate attached since the robot automatically detects carpet and would not go onto it.
You both are right. In the first few months, mine never had issue with docking even though I had the OZMO Pro mounted most of time often not replacing the pad for days. The docking problem emerged a month before the warranty period ends, surely it followed by the charging problem as well. I explained in my other post, eventually I returned it for repairing and it worked fine again after came back from repairing. I sent the whole package include the docking station back to Ecovacs so not sure where the problem they've fixed.

I'm just buying another spare one, in case it has problem again I'll decide which is more cost effective, to pay for repairing or just throw it away. If it lasts for two years, I have no regret for the $500 bot, that the new consumer electronics average life span anyway. Alternatively you pay for Roomba for the higher quality and durability, but miss the timing of technology upgrades as it lasts too long, lol.
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